How I cured my vulvodynia

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I see so many posts on here about constant or provoked vulva pain that I thought it might be useful if I explained vulvodynia and how I cured mine. Vulvodynia literally means vulvar pain and is a condition of the nerves in that area. The nerves have become hyperactive and hypersensitive due to trauma which can be chemical or physical in source or due to infection. I think mine was due to persistent thrush infection and the many remedies I tried to cure it, including home remedies such as bathing in a bath with some cider vinegar in - that made my soreness much worse (chemical trauma). Vulvodynia can cause itching, sore or burning sensation and this can be continuous or provoked (only happens when the area is touched). The nerves are so hypersensitive they register touch as pain and the usual way to diagnose it is to touch around the vulvar area with a cotton bud and where the touch registers as pain then that is the affected area. It can involve the whole of the vulvar area or can be in a horseshoe shape toward the posterior (which may also involve the perineum) or the anterior or can be offset to one side. The pain is a form of chronic neuropathic pain because it stems from nerve damage as opposed to nociceptive pain which is caused by tissue damage. Neuropathic pain can be very hard to get rid of. It took me 1.5 years of determination and the occasional disappointing set back to cure my vulvodynia. Probably more like 2 years to get back to normal.

Ok, ready for a long story about how I cured my vulvodynia:-

First I saw a gynaecologist. He took a biopsy of the painful area and confirmed no diseases or cancer. He put me on amitriptyline and steroid cream. These slowly worked for a while and made me comfortable enough to have a long overdue smear test. I had the smear test and the pain came back full force - back to square 1. By that time I had used the steroid cream for as long as is recommended and had stopped it (long term use not recommended). However, desperate to get rid of the pain I tired it again, but this time the cream stung me and made the pain worse. The gynaecologist gave me lynocaine cream to numb the area, but that stung me and made me worse. Nothing was working and in the end the gynae said that he could not cure me he could just help me managed the pain. Well, I wasn't going to put up with that for the rest of my life. So I did some investigating to find someone else who could help me and found a dermatologist consultant in Oxford who specialised in vulva pain. I also found some medication on the internet, made in Italy which is a gel is specifically for treating vulvodynia. It calms down the overactive and hypersensitive nerves. Saginil gel  - you can order it direct from the suppliers, epitech, on their website. You can do this because it is not classed as a medicine because it is made of natural plant-based ingredients. It is expensive, as is the post from Italy, but I am so pleased I bought it because it was the only thing my skin could tolerate there and it did make a difference - it reduced the pain so that it was bearable and I could function better with daily life.

i saw the dermatologist and she told me all the things that she had found worked to get rid of the pain, but nerve pain is difficult to get rid of so she suggested I try them all and stick at it. i was surprised because, appears from upping the amitriptyline dose to 50-70mg a day (I was on 20), the rest of the things were what you would class alternative, or natural, cures. They were: western acupuncture, physiotherapy, chiropraction and manual desensitisation. Now, different things work for different people because there are different causes for the vulvodynia: infection, physical or chemical trauma, hormones, trapped nerve in back. I knew mine was caused by repeated and persistent thrush and the various treatments I tried to get rid of it (including cider vinegar - ouch! No!). So I didn't see a chiropractor because is didn't thing it stemmed from a pelvic nerve problem, however, from what you describe, yours might. I did do yoga exercises that free trapped pelvic nerves. I bought a book on pelvic floor exercises and did those, rather than see a physio. I did the manual desensitisation - this is where you stroke yourself very lightly in the painful area, using non-irritating lubricant (I used oil based lube by yes, or coconut oil), just once the first day. Then each day you gradually build up the strokes in number and pressure. The idea is that you are retraining the nerves to register touch as touch and not pain. So, massage yourself there just enough so as not to cause lasting pain afterwards. I built it up until I could do 100 strokes of fairly good pressure, then I moved into inserting a finger, then two, then the tip of my husband's penis and then gradually out him in a little further each time, until I could get most of him in, then starting moving with him in, again gradually building it up each time. I also found a GP that also ran a Western acupuncture clinic. Western means that they leave the meddles in and pass electricity through them. That was what really worked for me - each time I went I just got better and better. Apparently the amitriptyline and the acupuncture work well together to dampen down those hyperactive and oversensitive nerves. I upped the amitriptyline to 50mg as day, very gradually by 5mg every 1 or 2 weeks because it caused side effects so my body needed to adapt to each increase. 

Finally, there are the changes to how you live. No tight clothes, no sex (until you are ready), no exercise (I gradually built that up too but walking just a short distance and gradually increasing it - never do an amount that cause she lasting pain). Go knicker free if you can - I work mainly from home so was able to go around with no knickers on and baggy jogging bottoms or a skirt. Sitting also caused problems (I work at a computer) so I got a ring shoved cushion form woman to use after they have given birth and sat in that so that there was no pressure at all on the sensitive area (dame for driving the car). Coconut oil was soothing (raw, cold pressed, organic coconut oil) so I applied that externally and internally with a clean finger after every time I went to the loo (I carried a little pot in my hand bag so I could apply it while out and about with an organic, pesticide and bleach free cotton pad). No scented products on that area, in fact I didn't wash there at all, I used coconut oil to clean the area and when showered I used organic, nasty chemical free and scent free body wash and shampoo and conditioner (because stuff runs down). I also washed my clothes in scent free, kind-to-skin laundry detergent and conditioner. Toilet paper has bleach in it, so I got some tissues that were bleach free and used those to wipe after doing a wee.

The key is to be persistent, try everything, gradually build things up, stick with what works, be determined, don't give in. The consultant dermatologist was very impressed with me because I was so determined and didn't give into urges. She said she had many women who just got fed up with how long it was taking and just went for a long walk / bike ride / horse ride or had sex and put themselves back at square one again. It does take a long time - it took me 1.5 years of all that stuff in my message above to get to being pain free. Even now, 5 years later, I still apply coconut oil after every time I go to the toilet, use tonnes of oil based lube during intercourse, go around the house wear no knickers. I don't want it to come back. I am also still on 50mg amitriptyline a day. At first I was afraid to come off it because the consultant dermatologist told me, you may be pain free, but if you come off it too soon, the pain can come back. So it is best to wait a few months after being pain free. Then menopause set in and I got hot flushes and my GP told me to stay on the  amitriptyline because it helps with hot flushes. My body has adapted to it now. I hope to reduce the dose sometime (gradually, by 5mg very 2 weeks, just like I built it up). I still do pelvic floor exercises - the book I got was called 7 steps to pain-free sex by Claudia Amherd. It is mainly about vaginismus, but the exercises apply to vulvodynia too - just don't do them sitting on a juggling ball (ouch) do them standing up first, then lying down, as it advises in the book. Gradually build up the exercises, doing more and more each time. Again, don't do so much that it causes an increase in pain or lasting pain - cut back if that happens.

Also, you need to get some organic, chemical free sanitary towels for when you have your period (no tampons). 

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    Hey there! im so glad you got better. maybe someone could shed some light. Im a very anxious person so please no negetives ha. I like you suki girl got this after an ongoing infection. Treated with about 6 rounds of antibiotics. (im pretty sure the infection stopped and vvd started somewhere in this time). The thing is i went to the gyne 2 months ago and was still uncomortable, my swabs were clear and so she diagnosed vulvodynia. She told me because i never had issues with penetration and still dont that what i have will go away cause its most likely caused by all the antibiotics and like yourself all the home remedies i was doing to get rid of an infection i though i still had. (apple cider vinger,garlic, teetree, canasten and pessaries, i could go on). Basically the area is traumatized and needs to calm down. I then went home and read up on it and seriously sunk into a deep depression. i have been off work sick for two months and crying and panicking constantly. When the lidocaine she gave me as treatment wasnt really helping (and i was getting worse because of the mental breakdown i was having ovr this) They started me on amitryptaline. Im now nearly three weks on it being a week on 25mg its gradually getting better. But The itching and stinging and prickles had turned into like knife like stabs on like shards of glass under my skin! now the docs had said because i was constantly in a panic state this is why the nerves were hurting me more. This is calming down as i am and the ami is starting to work. Have any of you experienced those sensations. Mine were/are. itching from front all the way to anus. Sometimes pinching in labia then itl change to sharp stabs and then a barbed wire feeling. All of this is gradually gettng better but im afraid it will never go away because of what i read. All my docs n gynes say it will. But im 27 and im petrified i cant calm down untill i know itl pass. The docs said that because i never had issues with penetration and tampons etc that i dont have the vulvodynia that has to be managed. that the nerves will stop eventually and ill be back to normal. just feel very scared and cant believe any reassurance im getting. Thanks for listening. If anyone culd relate to the sensation it would help.
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      I did have shooting pains sometime too. That is why is did the yoga postures for relieving trapped pelvic nerves. 

      I am sorry to hear that you have got this, but listen to me, it is very important that you do not get all worked up and anxious about it because that will only aggravate it because, as we have been saying above, there is a psychosomatic element to it. The internet is a wonderful medical resource but it can also scare the s**t out of people! I too read all the stories about women having had vulvodynia for 20 years and I just couldn’t bear the thought of that. I often refer to the quote from a Stephen King book where he quotes an old saying:

      ”Peek not through a knothole lest ye be vexed”, was there ever a bigger knothole in human history than the internet?

      Vulvodynia can be cured, I am proof of that. So, stop reading the negative stories and start focusing on getting yourself better. I asked my consultant dermatologist about the people who had had it for years and she said that these were the people that hadn’t bothered to do anything about it or gave up, because it does take a long time to cure and it is slow progress and it won’t go away on it’s own. She said she had many patients who just got fed up and went back to doing the exercise they missed or had sex, and then they put themselves back to square one. She said you need to try everything and stick at it - those are the people who get cured. When I heard that and knew it was possible to get cured, I got determined. 

      The amitriptyline helped reduce my pain and helped me sleep, but what really made a difference and sped up the recovery was the acupuncture. Have you considered trying that? The dermatologist and acupuncturist told me that the amitriptyline and acupuncture work together well in damping down those overactive, hypersensitive nerves. It was also very relaxing lying there for 30mins with a pulsing current passing through needles around the base of my spine - afterwards I would feel so relaxed, physically and mentally, and numbed in the vulva area.

      For the shooting pains try the yoga positions for the pelvis. I just googled them but the position I used was to lay on my back on the floor, bring my knees up to my chest and, with my hands press my legs down onto my body. It is important to keep your back and bum pressed into the floor while you do this otherwise you don’t get the stretch. I also used the happy baby pose which is a bit hard to describe so you will have to google it yourself. But there are lots of other poses for relieving tension in the pelvis and hips.

      Have you tried the saginil gel? That calms down the skin cells in the vulva area after aggravation due to infection or chemical trauma. It soothes me, but for some it makes a very big difference. The lady my GP told me about who had had vulvodynia for 20 years said that saginil gel was her miracle cure.

      So, stay positive. Progress will be slow, but if you have found things that are working for you then you will get better. It took me 2 years before I could say I was back to normal.

      If you need someone just to talk to about this and reassure you, feel free to private message me. I have done that for others.

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      hi katie

      I have just been diagnosed of vulvodynia and omg my was provoked from my ex. Its so awful he was super ruff and during intercourse i felt a huge burn around my opening . Mine was provoked and due to injury and just wondering if yours ever went away on its own? or if anyone reads this im praying to god theres hope out there 😦

      btw my symptoms are no pain but irritation and slight swelling. It feels more raw then anything

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      hello mary,

      i as well was diagnosed with provoked vestibulodynia/vestibulitis. Mine happened due to a yeast infection but i also do suspect it was do to trauma. The last 4 months i had a little painful patch after my boyfriend and i would do stuff. It would go away after a few hours so i didnt suspect anything of it. Then a few months later i had a yeast infection, and after that my pain didnt go away. I've had this fot about 7 months. And i will recover, so will you. i believe It will go away. But it will take time. This depends on the cause of your vulvodynia. Everyone is different. If yours was due to injury, your nerves are probably involved. So make sure to not have sex or have any contact with that area till u get better. Please go over Suki's first post of this discussion. Your vulvodynia is not the same cause as hers but her tips will also be able to help you. Stay positive and we will get better. I am so much better than before, but i still have some work to do to fully be pain free.

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      hey there!

      my story of vulvodynia is literally identical to yours. i'm 26 almost 27 and have been dealing with this since mid september so a little over 3 months. started with having a new sexual partner, i was with my ex for 7 years so i never really used condoms. with this new partner i did, and developed yeast infections due to sensativity to condoms, i think im allergic to something in them and from friction from the condom. tried without a condom then got BV. was back and forth on antibiotics & fluconozle, monistat, other ointments for yeast. then finally all that cleared up but symptoms stayed. i also am an extremely anxious person with depression. i think the crazy amout of stress ive been under since april contributes to what satarted the vulvodynia and since realize i have vulvodynia and that i may never get better anxiety and depression have become unbearable to the point i have a lot of suicidal thoughts bc i cant imagine living with this pain for 20+ years as ive read some women have. its so depressing and has taken any joy in life i have. so i get you 100% on how youre feeling unfortunately. i have started pelvic floor physical therapy and also acupuncture, ive started to take some herbs that i hope will help & also plan on going on something for the anxiety and depression that ive heard can also help vulvodynia. some days are extremely hard to stay postive bc i know stress makes it worse. finding this thread has given me a lot of hope that i can get better from this. so thank you so much to everyone who has taken the time to share their cure story

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    Thank you all for this discussion, I follow it with great interest.  I'm almost 62, haven't been able to have sex for at least half a year if not longer.  I want to, but the thought scares me, and I also am not sure it would be successful - anyway -  lately this year I have days where the irritation down there is nearly unbearable.  It's usually when I am at work, sitting all day on this thick memory foam cushion I have (for my back) - I can tell part of the issue is, it has formed to my butt so it is a little higher in the middle - hence, pushing on 'that area'.  I flipped it over a week or so ago where it was flat and there was some relief, for a while, til it started reshaping again.

    Thinking I need to get a harder cushion.  OK, that might help some.  It kind of sometimes feels like ,if you've ever had hemorrhoids and .. they're getting better but they are still super sensitive to rubbing and it's just like a NERVE thing.  I can't think of how else to describe the feeling - not quite sore -- just aggravating, annoying and irritating. Constant.

    Now it seems to me that there are also periods where it doesn't bother me so much. Thank you so much on the advice about food groups.  I literally a few days ago wondered if it was something I was/wasn't eating that made it flare up.  Going to try going without the solanacea family for awhile, which stinks because I love tomatoes in all manner of being fixed, and really really love hot peppers and hot sauce...    

    But I'm willing to try eradicating them and see if it helps.  Thanks again for this forum.

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      Hi Kell, I am sorry to hear you are going through this. I hated sitting - any pressure on that area made the pain worse because the nerves are so hypersensitive. At work I used to fold one leg under me so I was sitting on my lower leg so so that my vulva area was not touching the seat. Then I got a numb leg! Your memory foam cushion is not a good idea. You need to have a cushion that supports your bum bones on either side but doesn’t press on the middle bit. I got a ring shaped cushion from mothercare for women who have just given birth. I also sit on two lumbar support cushions, one under each bum cheek with a gap in the middle. If anyone asked I just said I had a coccyx injury. It definitely sounds like you have vulvodynia, but it will not get better in its own - you need to do something about it. It may mean a complete lifestyle change, but it isn’t the only way you will get better. I changed my diet, took k time to do yoga, stopped exercising or walking anywhere. I was lucky because I work part time from home home so I could spend time doing the pelvic floor exercises, sit on funny cushions, wear no underpants, frequently apply coconut oil, go to acupuncture sessions, etc. If I had not worked part time from home I think I would have had to change my work so that I could do all those things.
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    Ugh...my living nightmare.  Mine is caused by a combination of falling directly on my vagina as well as being allergic to things.  I actually had surgery years ago that had to CUT OFF the tissue in that area where the nerves were so damaged...worst pain I've ever felt.   I've been given everything to try and fix it ...lidocaine was horrendous...figured out I'm allergic to petroleum products,  so they gave me a new mix made with vegetable oil..in turn I used crisco (the baking oil) to lubricate the area....both helped.  Fucidin...burnt my skin.  Colloidal silver burned the skin.  Sex rips me every single time.  Epsom salt baths didn't do much.  

    I'm at my wits end again...at work..which I had to change careers because I couldn't sit because of this.  I want to cry.  My boyfriend wants to have sex and the thought at this moment makes me shutter...and I'm a very sexual person...so I'm just ticked off or sad at all times lately.

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      Andrea, I know how you feel. At one point when I was in so much burning that it was affecting my ability to function on a daily basis I seriously considered have that skin cut off. But, luckily I found the dermatologist who specialises in vulva pain. I count the tolerate any medicinal creams on the skin there - lidocaine stung like hell, steroid creams help at first but eventually made the burning worse, water based lubricants stung. The only things I could tolerate were the saginil gel and coconut oil. Have you tried saginil gel? Also what about all the other things that helped me like amitriptyline, manual desensitisation and acupuncture?
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    Hi everyone, after dealing with vaginale irritation for 8 months and being treated for several different yeast infections, my doctor finally diagnosed with me vulvodynia and said I had muscle spasms (vaginismus) as a result. I am 16/virgin, and this diagnosis really worried me. My doctor made me feel optmistic but from all these stories I read online, this seems to be something I will have to deal with for the rest of my life, and this worries me so much. I’ve heard that pelvic yoga helps so I’m thinking about trying that as well. 
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      Sounds familiar. Please keep up hope though. It can be cured - I am proof of that! Try everything, like I did, and you will find something that works for you and will gradually make you better. It does take time, and progress can be slow but the key is to stick at it - don’t give up trying. If you have vaginismus I know a good book that helped me with that. I will private message it to you because the moderators seem to delete my posts containing references to books or websites.
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    I tend to get a bit annoyed at doctors when they diagnose vulvodynia.  When I've researched this, I can only conclude that vulvodynia is simply a catch-all phrase for doctors to say, "I don't know".  I can't help but think that if men had this sort of problem and it caused such disruption to quality of life, it would have been investigated and cured generations ago!  

    As I've mentioned, I found a complete cure with diet modification, but I know that there are probably many causes and not everything works for everybody.  But I do wish that more studies were being done.  It just seems to be swept under the carpet by the medical profession, and that's not good enough, not when so many ladies are suffering.  

    Minamii

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      Totally agree. Doctors are stumbling in the dark with this. GPs have no idea and just dose us up with amitriptyline and give us steroid cream, both of which have side effects. Gynaecologists can’t only help us managed the pain. It is left to the individual woman to find the cure that worked for her. The consultant dermatologist who told me all those things that worked for me (acupuncture, manual desensitisation, pelvic floor exercises) just told me what women had found worked for them. Part of the problem is the multiple different causes: infection; physical trauma; chemical trauma; allergies; stress; trapped pelvic nerves; and it is hard to identify the cause especially when there can be multiple factors at play. I guess that is why my dermatologist told me to try everything.
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      Just to add - men do have such a condition. It is called balanitis and has the same causes, the same hyperactive hypersentive nerves in the head of the penis and the same hit and miss treatment.

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