How I cured my vulvodynia

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I see so many posts on here about constant or provoked vulva pain that I thought it might be useful if I explained vulvodynia and how I cured mine. Vulvodynia literally means vulvar pain and is a condition of the nerves in that area. The nerves have become hyperactive and hypersensitive due to trauma which can be chemical or physical in source or due to infection. I think mine was due to persistent thrush infection and the many remedies I tried to cure it, including home remedies such as bathing in a bath with some cider vinegar in - that made my soreness much worse (chemical trauma). Vulvodynia can cause itching, sore or burning sensation and this can be continuous or provoked (only happens when the area is touched). The nerves are so hypersensitive they register touch as pain and the usual way to diagnose it is to touch around the vulvar area with a cotton bud and where the touch registers as pain then that is the affected area. It can involve the whole of the vulvar area or can be in a horseshoe shape toward the posterior (which may also involve the perineum) or the anterior or can be offset to one side. The pain is a form of chronic neuropathic pain because it stems from nerve damage as opposed to nociceptive pain which is caused by tissue damage. Neuropathic pain can be very hard to get rid of. It took me 1.5 years of determination and the occasional disappointing set back to cure my vulvodynia. Probably more like 2 years to get back to normal.

Ok, ready for a long story about how I cured my vulvodynia:-

First I saw a gynaecologist. He took a biopsy of the painful area and confirmed no diseases or cancer. He put me on amitriptyline and steroid cream. These slowly worked for a while and made me comfortable enough to have a long overdue smear test. I had the smear test and the pain came back full force - back to square 1. By that time I had used the steroid cream for as long as is recommended and had stopped it (long term use not recommended). However, desperate to get rid of the pain I tired it again, but this time the cream stung me and made the pain worse. The gynaecologist gave me lynocaine cream to numb the area, but that stung me and made me worse. Nothing was working and in the end the gynae said that he could not cure me he could just help me managed the pain. Well, I wasn't going to put up with that for the rest of my life. So I did some investigating to find someone else who could help me and found a dermatologist consultant in Oxford who specialised in vulva pain. I also found some medication on the internet, made in Italy which is a gel is specifically for treating vulvodynia. It calms down the overactive and hypersensitive nerves. Saginil gel  - you can order it direct from the suppliers, epitech, on their website. You can do this because it is not classed as a medicine because it is made of natural plant-based ingredients. It is expensive, as is the post from Italy, but I am so pleased I bought it because it was the only thing my skin could tolerate there and it did make a difference - it reduced the pain so that it was bearable and I could function better with daily life.

i saw the dermatologist and she told me all the things that she had found worked to get rid of the pain, but nerve pain is difficult to get rid of so she suggested I try them all and stick at it. i was surprised because, appears from upping the amitriptyline dose to 50-70mg a day (I was on 20), the rest of the things were what you would class alternative, or natural, cures. They were: western acupuncture, physiotherapy, chiropraction and manual desensitisation. Now, different things work for different people because there are different causes for the vulvodynia: infection, physical or chemical trauma, hormones, trapped nerve in back. I knew mine was caused by repeated and persistent thrush and the various treatments I tried to get rid of it (including cider vinegar - ouch! No!). So I didn't see a chiropractor because is didn't thing it stemmed from a pelvic nerve problem, however, from what you describe, yours might. I did do yoga exercises that free trapped pelvic nerves. I bought a book on pelvic floor exercises and did those, rather than see a physio. I did the manual desensitisation - this is where you stroke yourself very lightly in the painful area, using non-irritating lubricant (I used oil based lube by yes, or coconut oil), just once the first day. Then each day you gradually build up the strokes in number and pressure. The idea is that you are retraining the nerves to register touch as touch and not pain. So, massage yourself there just enough so as not to cause lasting pain afterwards. I built it up until I could do 100 strokes of fairly good pressure, then I moved into inserting a finger, then two, then the tip of my husband's penis and then gradually out him in a little further each time, until I could get most of him in, then starting moving with him in, again gradually building it up each time. I also found a GP that also ran a Western acupuncture clinic. Western means that they leave the meddles in and pass electricity through them. That was what really worked for me - each time I went I just got better and better. Apparently the amitriptyline and the acupuncture work well together to dampen down those hyperactive and oversensitive nerves. I upped the amitriptyline to 50mg as day, very gradually by 5mg every 1 or 2 weeks because it caused side effects so my body needed to adapt to each increase. 

Finally, there are the changes to how you live. No tight clothes, no sex (until you are ready), no exercise (I gradually built that up too but walking just a short distance and gradually increasing it - never do an amount that cause she lasting pain). Go knicker free if you can - I work mainly from home so was able to go around with no knickers on and baggy jogging bottoms or a skirt. Sitting also caused problems (I work at a computer) so I got a ring shoved cushion form woman to use after they have given birth and sat in that so that there was no pressure at all on the sensitive area (dame for driving the car). Coconut oil was soothing (raw, cold pressed, organic coconut oil) so I applied that externally and internally with a clean finger after every time I went to the loo (I carried a little pot in my hand bag so I could apply it while out and about with an organic, pesticide and bleach free cotton pad). No scented products on that area, in fact I didn't wash there at all, I used coconut oil to clean the area and when showered I used organic, nasty chemical free and scent free body wash and shampoo and conditioner (because stuff runs down). I also washed my clothes in scent free, kind-to-skin laundry detergent and conditioner. Toilet paper has bleach in it, so I got some tissues that were bleach free and used those to wipe after doing a wee.

The key is to be persistent, try everything, gradually build things up, stick with what works, be determined, don't give in. The consultant dermatologist was very impressed with me because I was so determined and didn't give into urges. She said she had many women who just got fed up with how long it was taking and just went for a long walk / bike ride / horse ride or had sex and put themselves back at square one again. It does take a long time - it took me 1.5 years of all that stuff in my message above to get to being pain free. Even now, 5 years later, I still apply coconut oil after every time I go to the toilet, use tonnes of oil based lube during intercourse, go around the house wear no knickers. I don't want it to come back. I am also still on 50mg amitriptyline a day. At first I was afraid to come off it because the consultant dermatologist told me, you may be pain free, but if you come off it too soon, the pain can come back. So it is best to wait a few months after being pain free. Then menopause set in and I got hot flushes and my GP told me to stay on the  amitriptyline because it helps with hot flushes. My body has adapted to it now. I hope to reduce the dose sometime (gradually, by 5mg very 2 weeks, just like I built it up). I still do pelvic floor exercises - the book I got was called 7 steps to pain-free sex by Claudia Amherd. It is mainly about vaginismus, but the exercises apply to vulvodynia too - just don't do them sitting on a juggling ball (ouch) do them standing up first, then lying down, as it advises in the book. Gradually build up the exercises, doing more and more each time. Again, don't do so much that it causes an increase in pain or lasting pain - cut back if that happens.

Also, you need to get some organic, chemical free sanitary towels for when you have your period (no tampons). 

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    Hi ladies, 

    I believe I posted here a while ago. I suffered from horrible burning pain from April 1, 2018- August 12, 2018. I tried all the different medications. The only thing that worked for me was going to physical therapy, stretching, yoga, meditation. I did have some good books to help me, along with my PT therapist. One was Amy Stein's Heal Pelvic Pain, the other is called "Why Pelvic Pain Hurts" by three different authors, Adriaan Louw, Sandra Hilton, and Carolyn Vandyken. 

    I was doing perfectly well and normal for about a month, until last week I started having bladder pain and urgency. With this the vaginal paid did NOT come back though, this is now all internal lower ab pain. I tested negative for any infection... and it kind of feels like the struggle of vulvodynia starting all over again, pain, no infection, no one knows whats wrong. etc... 

    I'm convinced something is wrong at the core of my body, I think it's my diet. It's just not normal that one thing after the other keeps going wrong with me. So I'm going to try changing my diet before I start any medications or anything intense for this bladder pain. I just turned 26 and have always been active and had no health issues. 

    I wish you all the best of luck on your journey to health. I truly believe we can all get there. Our bodies are just picking a sensitive part of us that it knows will get our attention to tell us we need to change something. 

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    Thanks this discussion is so helpful to.me I drink loads of water and do eat tomatoes in my salad most days I will cut them.out I also drink No it 4 cups of tea a day is it worth stopping that

    • Posted

      Not sure about tea. You can try missing out the nightshade food group as an allergy to solanine can cause vulvodynia with a few women. However, I found what I ate made no difference, fo me it was all about calming down those overactive and hypersensitive nerves with amitriptyline, acupuncture, manual desensitisation and pelvic floor exercises. If the cause of your vulvodynia is trauma to that area (physical trauma, chemical trauma or infection), then the things that helped me should help,you too. If the cause is further up the nerve pathway in the pelvic nerves you should try physio with specialist physio. If the pain stops you sleeping and prevents you from functioning properly during the day then you need to start on amitriptyline or nortriptyline to enable you to get some healing sleep and live a more normal life.
    • Posted

      Hi it started from yeast Infection never had it before doc last week gave me a wash and cream to use and said after a month would give me amitriptyline she didn't say it was this but sounds like it is from looking on this forum

    • Posted

      Hey did u have burning internally as well as mine is more internal, some.times I get irritation on my thighs and buttocks. Is this something u experienced
    • Posted

      As far as I can remember the whole area felt like it was on fire, vulva to anus.
    • Posted

      the location is different for everyone.
    • Posted

      Bally1 If you google vulvodynia vestibulis you will be able to find more info about internal vaginal pain... vagismus (that might not be how you spell it!) can also cause internal pain... also worth being swabbed for thrush as that can cause internal pain and doesn’t always have visible symptoms... I use a combo of yes organic moisturiser and certraben cream to wash with and that has really helped with internal disconformt for me over the years xx
    • Posted

      Sorry didn’t refresh the page before replying, sounds as though you have already been tested for yeast infections! 
  • Posted

    Hey everyone it's been a while since I posted anything here. 

    I'm still dealing with the pain sad I can't sit like a normal person, I can't sit on chairs etc, and when I sit on my couch I have to sit on the back of my bum instead of flat if you understand that..it arches my back so my back pain isn't getting better. It's honestly ruining my life! It's been more than a year! 

    I was put on 2 creams, 1 to use 5 times a day, 1 to use at night and Dermol wash. I don't know the names of the other two..but I've been using them everyday and it hasn't worked one bit! I'm so angry. I'm still using them just incase it decides to work! 

    After walking for a while, the whole area hurts and I get a pressue feeling and a sharp pinching feeling there, laying down makes it hurt a lot, and going the toilet hurts. It's just a constant pain!

    ((Sometimes when I sit down flat it feels like something is trying to come out of the vaginal opening. Also I keep getting bubbles coming out of there it's like 24/7 walking/sitting/laying down and I don't know why anyone else get this and can explain it??!!)) 

    I'm dealing with servere lower back pain, stomach problems and this..I can't take it. I just don't know what to do anymore! My health is messed up, it's messing with my mental state.

    Can anyone PLEASE help me!

    Thank you all for your time! 

    I'm 26

    Never had a baby - (not pregnant now) lol

     

    • Posted

      Oh sounds like u really suffering I've had 8 weeks. I also use the dermol wash. Walking about with no underwear at home has helped. Do u get burning inside the vagina. I also wish it would go away x

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      Kirsty, what are you doing other than the creams? You really need to get the whole of the nerves in that area to calm down, especially if you say you have lower back pain too. You need something to work on the nerves from the inside. I stopped using creams, etc and just left that area alone in terms of medication. I think too much messing that area of skin around makes it worse. I just used natural, pure, raw, cold pressed organic coconut oil or yes oil based lube to soothe and lubricate (stop chaffing when I walked). What are you taking for the pain? Are you on amitriptyline or nortriptyline? These work on the nerves from the inside. I know a lot of people don’t want to take these drugs, but honestly I decided I rather not have the pain. What it comes down to is quality of life. If the quality of your life is adversely affected by this pain then you should take the drugs. Acupuncture has been shown to be very good for treating neuropathic pain like vulvodynia and also for treating lower back pain. After each acupuncture session I felt better and better. Also you need to do some manual desensitisation to retrain the nerves to register touch as touch and not pain - I can tell you how to do this. Also, lots have women have found physiotherapy to be beneficial. You need to do pelvic floor exercise and also some yoga to release those pelvic nerves. See my first post at the top about all these things that you can do to treat the nerves internally.
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    So what do I do about the bubbles? and the feeling that I get everytime I sit down..that something feels like it's trying to get out. 

    Shall I stop using the creams/dermol wash? 

    I haven't been put on any tablets either.

    They just stuck me on the creams, and absolutely nothing else. 

    How do I do manual desensitisation?

    Do I have to go to my doctor or my gynecologist to be put on amitriptyline or nortriptyline? do they take the pain away completely? because I can't even go 1-2 hours without pain.

    Are pelvic floor exercise hard to do? because I'm quite a big girl. I'm honestly thinking about just having an operation to get a penis because it's that bad. Guys have it so easy!! haha. 

    • Posted

      Kirsty I really know how you feel. When I was at my worst I just wanted to have that whole area of skin cut off. Men can get it on the head of the penis - is it called balanitis.

      Do you have a donut cushion for sitting? This is a circular cushion with a hole in the middle so that there is no pressure on the vulva area when you sit. There are several types (they are for women after they have given birth and for people with piles).

      What country are you in? Amitriptyline is usually the first thing they give for vulva pain. It does take a while to kick in but for some women it takes away the pain completely. You start on 10mg, taken 1 hour before you go to bed, and every week or two you increase the dose, usually by 10mg. Some people, me included get side effects such as dry mouth, feeling hungover and constipation when they go up a dose. I solved this by going up by 5mg (cut the tablets in half) every couple of weeks. Then I was a bit constipated for a few days. You need to get up to 50-75mg. For me it made the pain more bearable and gave me a really good nights sleep (never slept so well in my life). Sleep is necessary for healing.

      Manual desensitisation is a gradual re-training of the nerves to register touch as touch and not pain. You start by stroking in painful area very gently with and finger and lots of lube. Once or twice a day. Just one light stroke to start with. You then increase the strokes very gradually every week - two, then three, then four, etc. It may hurt but the key thing is to not cause lasting pain. So afterwards if you are in more pain but is soon goes back down to its normal level, you are doing the right thing. If the increased pain lasts, you are doing too much - cut back on the number of strokes. This is a very slow process. So, gradually, each week, you increase the number of strokes and the pressure. I got up to 100 strokes with quite firm pressure then I started to insert and finger (leave it in there’s for a minute), then two fingers, then I moved onto vaginal dilators, then the tip of my hubby’s penis, then he went in a bit more, then a bit more, then started moving a bit, and so on. Each week you increase but only to an amount you can tolerate that doesn’t cause a lasting increase in pain.

      Some people do find the pelvic floor exercises hard to do. They also think it is about strengthening the pelvic floor muscle. It is in fact about becoming aware of your pelvic floor and being in control of when the muscles are tense and when they are relaxed. It is about gaining control of your pelvic floor. I recommend the book “seven steps to pain free sex” by Claudia Amherd. That will 8nstruct you on relaxation techniques, pelvic floor exercises and retraining your vagina to accept something inside it. It is important to read all of the book and follow the steps and remember that contracting your pelvic floor muscles is only done with a juggling ball between your bum cheeks for vaginismus- for vulvodynia you do not use the juggling ball (ouch!). 

       

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      I'm from the United Kingdom smile

      I'll take a look into the donut cushion thing, it sounds like it'd be good. And they did give me tablets at the very start but they didn't help, I can't remember the name off them sorry. 

      I go to sleep about 23:00pm then always wake up between 4:30am - 5:30am with pain from my stomach, it's quite annoying.

      You're still not answering the question..what are the bubbles or what do I do to stop them..and why does it feel like something is trying to push out of my vagina when I sit down?

      I'll also look into that book too. I'll try anything that helps. I'm go to my doctor again and see if I can be sent to the gynecologist again.

      thanks. 

    • Posted

      Sorry, I have no idea what the bubbles are. Perhaps someone else has experience of them. Also not sure why you feel like something is trying to push out - have you been checked for prolapse?
    • Posted

      The pushing feeling could be a prolapse, sounds like seeing a gynaecologist/woman’s health Physio would be a good idea. The bubbles could be air bubbles, I’m doing this core and restore fitness class and the woman leading it said that if you go from not doing pelvic floor exercises to doing a lot you may get ‘fanny farts’ (her words, I hate that phrase 🙈wink but they are nothing to worry about... guess it could be that. 

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      My pain is bad today my vulva is tender and swollen to the touch whole area feels sore feels like I've had something shoved up me.hard horrible feeling. Should I go back and ask for the amitriptyline

    • Posted

      Perhaps I should just qualify that. When my pain was so bad that my quality of life was affected I went to my GP and I said that I just needed something to stop the pain and enable me to lead a normal life and asked for amitriptyline (which a friend of my, who is a GP, told me about). At that point I didn’t care about a cure, I just wanted to be able to sleep and function properly during the day. I was exhausted from lack for sleep, depressed and unable to work or look after my children. Amitriptyline enabled me to sleep, to function on a daily basis and to start thinking clearly about how to cure myself. It didn’t eliminate my pain completely but it made it bearable. 

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