how long does olanzapine withdrawal last?

Hi Marriette I'm 16 months off olanzapine. It's been a tough road and still is but think I'm slowly getting there. I have real problems coping with emotions now. I said to my mum it feels like my brain was numbed for 10 yrs and I forgot how to feel emotionally. I basically cry at everything and feel pain deep inside. I've gone from someone who was the life and soul of the party to someone who hardly goes out( I have more pjs then clothes lol) have lost many friends but have my great family. Sometimes I think about going back on them but to tough to withdrawal again. These drugs are awful wish I read small print. Good luck to u ?

Sorry to hear your problems with olanzapine  withdrawal  I have had my medication reduced which I had been on for 11 years  5mg olanzapine   I am now in hospital having a total breakdown  I am suffering from dreadful panic attacks    Since taking this drug I have had a stroke  urine retention ( I have to cathetize ) and loss of mobility ((all down to Olanzapine)   I  have had a few days out of hospital but will be back tomorrow   I feel dreadful but will not come out of hospital until I am sorted and have come off this drug completely I have been reducing my olanzapine since early last Dcember but feel a nervous wreck  Like you I have been in a catch 2 situation  so sorry I cannot be so positive but feel this drug has ruined my life best wishes from Margaret

Hi Margaret , im new to this forum but hope u can eventually get your life back to some normality. I to have stopped taking Zyprexa from 15mg for 8yrs an over past 5wks dropped down to 5mg then cold turkey past 10days an are going thru terrible headaches an overall unwellness. Hopefully i can get thru next 2-3wks or as long as it takes.. Best wishes an take care. Lloyd

Hi Lloyd

Best wishes on your attempt to go off olanzapine. It will be difficult at times, I also went cold turkey not to long ago. Its a battle that people around you don't understand. Like it was explained to me it is like someone that is used to walk with a cane and the cane gets kick from underneath them all of a sudden. Like them you will also "fall" and will need to learn how to walk again. It will take.time for your body to adjust. My boss noticed something was wrong when I quit and asked for a letter from my doctor with the withdrawal symtoms when I told her I stopped the tablets, so they can help me through/understand the difficult times. I sincerely hope you have a good support structure, because it does help a lot. Feel free to chat whenever you want. Marriette

Hi Marriette thanks for your reply. Today wil b almost 2wks from going Cold Turkey off Zyprexa.. I find by going to shops takes my mind off the terrible Withdrawals an can also speak to shoppers to also distract from any negative thoughts... would like to know if you or anyone has had times during the day when you seem to be on top of things.. im hoping these better times become more frequent. I'll keep trying to stay positive an hope theres some light at the end of the tunnel. Best wishes Lloyd

Hi Loyd

I realized I couldn't deal with the olanzapibe withdrawals on my own and got friends, family and my boss involved as a support structure. I told them how I truly felt some days and they really help in different ways. They all take time out to go and read up on the drug and the withdrawals in order to understand what I'm in for. For your question, yes, there are days I feel on top of the world but that can change in a hart beat. From general feeling of being unwell, panic attacks and times where I feel I can not function. I haven't been off olanzapine for long , i tried before but without success and I too hope that these side effects will become less, but my doctor said they might still get worse, because the drug takes a long time to get out of your system and for your body to adapt. Keep strong. Marriette

Thank you for sharing your story Marriette.  Just thought I'd reply here since I empathize with your pain and panic attacks during withdrawal off olanzapine.  I can confidently say the WD gets better with time.. but it is a day by day thing.  The true improvement mark was seen at 3 months off all psych drugs for me.  Lots of water, supplements, exercise, and a healthy diet is what worked for me.  Once you can figure out how to sleep decently again, you will find a lot of your symptoms will improve.

My best to you and yours!  Glad to hear you have a good support group getting involved.  I had the hardest time getting my friends to read up on the withdrawals of zyprexa..  it is so hard to understand unless you are or have gone through it.

The positive news is this: it can be done, hard as hell sometimes, but it can be done.  I'm living proof!

"I will not die, but I will live and will proclaim of what the Lord has done." Psalm 118:17

I too felt and sometimes feel that zyprexa and abilify have ruined my life.  But I will say this, after being several months off these drugs, I feel like i am getting some semblance of my normal life back.  I think the key is to get off ALL the psychiatric drugs and decline suggestions to try different medications to help with other symptoms.  I know psychs and doctors will discourage that strongly saying that it's dangerous, but honestly for me, it feels like it was worth it.  The psych kept trying to push different pills on me, claiming I was showing signs of bipolar or other mental illness issues, but I paid attention to their demeanor and could read pretty quickly she was trying to keep me hooked on these psych medications.  Few months later (more than 3 months), I am glad I made the decision I did.

I truly think the meds created mental problems for me.  For example, I started hearing audible voices and getting severe panic attacks, general anxiety disorder symptoms, and suicidial ideation.  Overall, I knew I was getting worse while being on the medication and not better. I lose my drive, my passion for life, my confidence, my personality, my sleep, my sanity, suicidal ideation, wanting to throw in the towel, wondering if my life was truly ruined forever, and wondering why God would allow me to go through this. One reason I think is to share my story and hopefully help others out there.  Psych medications are very bad imho and do more hard than good overall is my take on it.  

Watch this video when you have some time, it explains much.

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God speed to your recovery Margaret!  Please don't give up and hang in there.  It does get better with time. Take it day by day.  I know it's hard, but please don't give up. It will get better with time.  Hold on!

Proud of you Sarah!  I agree that these drugs are awful and should not be prescribed to anyone who wishes to live a normal life.  But the WD does get better so please hang in there.  Have you tried exercising, eating healthy, and finding something that makes you laugh?  Laughing and sleeping will help you recover a lot I think.  I remember feeling emotionless while I was on the drug and withdrawing from them, but slowly I feel I am getting my emotions back.

My very best to you and thank you for sharing your story!

Hi Marriette, hope your doing well? ? Im still struggling to deal with the Withdrawals from Zyprexa but i do get afew hrs a day where i can cope alot better an im hoping these better times will continue to improve over time. Apart from the aches an pains headaches i still suffer from terrible insomnia. My Dr wants me to try Melatonin slow release tablets have you any experience with using Melatonin? ? If so does it take long to work etc ?? Take care best wishes Lloyd

Hi Lloyd

I am having a terrible day. I just cant get myself to function. I've been edgy the entire day, all I wanted to do is curl up in a ball. Being at work was a nightmare. Melatonin does help, I had months supply from a friend. You can not buy it over the counter anymore. I suffer from severe insomnia and anxiety at the moment and I know if I can just take one olanzapine I will get a good nights sleep. I have a lot of external stressors beside the meds at the moment, and I really don't know how I'm going to cope. I might be pregnant, but I'm to scared to take the test. It means I have to stop all meds going cold turkey on all of them and I'm scared. I havent told anyone yet. Hope you are doing much better and thank you for all your support thus far. Best wishes. Marriette

Hi Kate. Thank you for your encouraging words, it really means a lot. I had a terrible day today, but hopefully tomorrow will be better. With current events , it has become clear to me that I have to stop all meds, even the ones that help with the withdrawals. I hope.that I'm strong enough to see this through. Thank you for all your support. I'll keep in touch. Blessings Marriette

Absolutely Marriette.  I'm a survivor and I can confidently say withdrawing from these drugs ranks among the top of hardest things I've ever gone through.  And I have been through a lot.

Please keep in touch and feel free to message me anytime with any questions or if you ever just need moral support or have any questions.  Be encouraged that it is possible to recover.  Press on!

Hi Marriette, im so sorry to hear your going thru such a rough time. Please try an hang in there i no must be hard an tempting to take any tablets but you've gone so far to turn back now. If you are pregnant congratulations. Hang in there an im thinking of you an wish you all the very best. Take care Lloyd

Hi Kate, hope your doing well? ? Im coming up to almost 3wks off Zyprexa an only in last 2days i feel like im turning the corner as i do still have aches an pains sum headaches but overall there slightly lesser intense and i can cope alot better for longer periods of time then i had done. Hopefully this is a sign that i might be on the improve ?? Hope your all well ?? Best wishes Lloyd

Hi Marriette, how are you coping today ?? I do hope your able to get some sleep? ? Insomnia is a terrible condition to go thru. Ive been taking Melatonin slow release tablets for past couple nights with out any success yet but my Dr said might take a few nights to work. Im starting to get some periods during the day when im able to cope more better with the aches an pains an headaches hopefully these wil become more frequent. Best wishes and thinking of you whilst your going thru a rough patch. Take care Lloyd

Keep going Lloyd!  I've been off all meds for about 4 months now and it's much better, not perfect, but much better. The first 3 months for me were hard.  Once you can get your sleep back, you will feel much better also.  I highly recommend to stay away from all psych meds if at all possible.  

Hi Kate, thank you for your reply. Jus one other question i forgot to ask you and that is do you or did you ever suffer from having dizzy spells ?? I get them occasionally and jus wonder if it's part of the Zyprexa Withdrawals? ? Take care. .. Lloyd

Hi Marriette, sorry to bother you again but was wondering if you have experienced Dizzy Spells ?? I occasionally have dizzy spells and and courious if Zyprexa withdrawals have anything to do with it ??

Hi Lloyd.

No bother at all. I had experienced dizzy spells but never associated it with zyprexa. I assumed it was because of low blood sugar. But if you think about it the drug does make you insulin resistant, so I think it could contribute to your sugar levels. I'll ask my doctor and find out more. Hope you are feeling better. Marriette

Hi Marriette, thank you for your reply to my question bout dizziness. Im still having aches an pains an some headaches but i continue to have times when i can cope alot better. I hope these better times keep increasing as time goes on. Im still taking one Mertazipine tablet at night an i have halved the dose round 5months ago. My Dr wants me to stay on this dose for now. As soon as my withdrawals from Zyprexa have ceased I'll eliminate Mertazipine as well. Thank you for your help in helping me get thru these Withdrawals from Zyprexa. Best wishes Lloyd

Hi Marriette, im havn a rough day with lot of aches an pains and ive been having alot of Dizzy spells where im certain its Zyprexa withdrawals ?? an some nasty headaches and stil having terrible insomnia im now into my 3rd wk going off this hideous drug.. have been taking Melatonin for past 4 nights without any effect so far have you taken Melatonin before an if so did it work for you ?? Best wishes to you and take care

Hi Lloyd

Sorry to hear you have a terrible day, just hang in there. Melatonin is a herbal remedy, so don't expect miracles. It only help you to sleep under "normal" circumstances, calms you down. Since the withdrawal isn't "normal" I doubt that you will have the full effect, but that is only my opinion. I use tranquilizers and sleeping tablets at night and even then I don't get a full night sleep. As for your headaches and dizzy spells, when is the last time you had your BP And sugar levels checked? Do you know anyone that can check it for you? If the withdrawal is causing this you remedy it temporarily. You are doing great. Your body needs to time adjust to its normal state after this hideous drug. Best wishes Marriete

Thanks for your reply Marriette, im seeing my Dr in afew days n wil ask her bout my B.P an Sugar levels. I did see some people on this forum have commented on having Dizzy spells so was just curious what your opinion was. Aches an Pains have been strong today but they also come in waves sometimes you cope ok an other times like today has been difficult. I do hope i can get to 3months which seems to be a number others on this forum say if you get to 3months you should b over the worst of things ?? Im only coming up to 3wks so seems like ive gota long way to go yet. Hope things are improving for you ?? Take care and best wishes. .. Lloyd

When I was withdrawing from zyprexa I sometimes had some serious panic attacks.. not sure if I could call them dizzy spells but I do think it does do something to your blood sugar levels. I did a juice detox and after a day I think my blood sugar dropped significantly.. under normal circumstances it wouldn't have been as bad i think but with zyprexa I believe my body chemistry had been affected. Hope you are feeling better. hang in there Lloyd. It does get better!

Hi Kate, many thanks for your reply. I have short periods of time where i can cope alot better but then the aches an pains an headaches take over. Im determined to see it thru an doing my best to try and stay on top of things but hard. I get hope from you an others on this forum to keep going so i thank you for that. Take care an best wishes to you. . Lloyd

Hi Marriette, how are you fairing with the Withdrawals? ? I thought i was getting on top of things only for the withdrawals mostly aches an pains come back stronger. Still having headaches and terrible insomnia even tho ive been on Melatonin tablets for past 6 nights. I do have some times when i feel like I'm coping with things ok bout there short lived. I do hope things are better for you. Best wishes Lloyd

Hang in there Lloyd. Take it day by day..

Many thanks Kate, it's a long haul eh. I can't turn back now gota see it thru somehow. . Lloyd

Hi Lloyd. Hope you are doing better. I'm having a rough time. I also have times where I can cope, that its getting better, but those are short lived. Its a rollercoaster ride of ups and downs. And the downs is getting to me, I so much want some of the old me back. Its effecting all aspects of my life. But I'll hang in there, hopefully saving a resemblance of life. Blessings and take care

Marriette

Hi Marriette, sorry your not feeling so well. Im going thru same as you i jus got back from shops an i cope reasonably well for near couple hrs. But in last 30min im back to square one having terrible headaches an those nasty aches an pains. But my mind is very clear an has been from the day i stop taking Zyprexa which is now 3wks an 3days. So i think going by what people been saying on the forum ive gota get past at least 3months before things might ease off. Melatonin hasn't quite been working for my insomnia as yet but will stick with it abit longer. Im in it for the long haul as can't turn back now. I know u'll make it and so will i we gota just stay as positive as we can. Im thinking of you and hang in there. Best wishes Lloyd

Yes you will make it Lloyd. You are almost there! Keep going.

Day by day.

Hi Kate, was just wanting your opinion on a matter i have. Ive been on Oxygen Therapy for past 2mths 24/7 an i can't help thinking that Zyprexa has something to do with me going on Oxygen. I had an increase with Zyprexa from 10mg to 15mg wafers some 4mths ago i then went back to 10mg a month later then i decided to come off Zyprexa and went from 10mg then 5mg then cold turkey 3 and halve weeks ago. It was during this reduction in Zyprexa that i started having breathing problems. Maybe coincidental but cant help think this drug is causing me my breathing problems. I see my Lung Specialist in another month an will let him know how i feel. These withdrawals aren't making it any easier. What do you think? ? Lloyd

Hi Marriette, just wanting to know how you're doing? ? I hope you're on the improve. Im having terrible aches an pains an some headaches an insomnia altho i did manage to get bout 3-4hrs sleep last night maybe the Melatonin starting to work. The aches an pains are either terrible or bearable at other times. Im coming up to 4wks off Zyprexa an i jus hope the next 2 months go quickly. As some on this forum say that if you can get to 3mths off Zyprexa your over the worst of it. Hope their right eh. Anyway take care an best wishes for your health. Lloyd

Hi Kate, my Dr told me that when i was taking Zyprexa Wafers they disolve in under a second under my tongue an is taken straight into the blood stream. I think this could why my withdrawals are so hard to shake. As aposed to Zyprexa Tablets which go thru your stomach etc. What do you think? ? Almost 4wks into my Withdrawals and im having hard time but still determined to see it thru. Hope your well best wishes Lloyd

Hi Marriette, was wondering what you think about this question i have which is my Dr told me that Zyprexa Wafers which i was on disolve in your mouth instantly and goes straight into your blood stream and thats why i could be suffering worst Withdrawals then if i had been taken tablets which have to go thru your stomach etc Would like your opinion about this ?? Exactly 4wks today that i stopped Zyprexa an hopefully I'll be able to go thru at least another 2months and maybe then Withdrawals might ease off. Take care and best wishes Lloyd

Hi Marriette, was wondering what you think about this question i have which is my Dr told me that Zyprexa Wafers which i was on disolve in your mouth instantly and goes straight into your blood stream and thats why i could be suffering worst Withdrawals then if i had been taken tablets which have to go thru your stomach etc Would like your opinion about this ?? Exactly 4wks today that i stopped Zyprexa an hopefully I'll be able to go thru at least another 2months and maybe then Withdrawals might ease off. Take care and best wishes Lloyd

Hi Marriette, how are things going with you atm ?? Into my 4th wk of Withdrawals an still having aches an pains an insomnia. My mind is clear and this keeps me going to see it thru. Hope your well. . Take care Lloyd

Hi Kate, how are you coping now ?? Im into my 4th wk of Withdrawals an still having aches an pains an insomnia. Hope you are well. . Take care Lloyd

Hi Lloyd

Congratulation on your 4 week achievement. I'm still having a hard time, my work doesnt understand why I want to leave these tablets saying that it influence my work, my doctors is also against it. Talking about decreasing the dose and then add other meds to control the side effect, giving me even more medication, but not solving the problem. No one is listening to me. I can not afford to loose my.job. . I have a lot of stressful things happening at the same time and I'm not coping with all the pressure. Everything happening is making me depressed and am I not in a good space at present. I want the old me back and nobody seems to care how I feel about it.

Hi Marriette, im so sorry to hear your all your stress etc you have to deal with atm. Must be extremely hard for you. I know you have it in you to stay the course and u'll come out on top im sure. Ive been having hard time still dealing with the Withdrawals from Zyprexa but im just starting my 5th wk today from being off this terrible drug. My mind is still very clear since coming off Zyprexa Wafers. This is keeping me going and im certain I'll beat it in the end. Going out to the shops every day helps keep my Withdrawal Symptoms off my mind. Im nibbling on little bits of nuts/almonds an dry fruit thru out the day this also keeps my mind off my Withdrawals. I also have some yoghurt each day no sugar added. I take a Multivitamin and Complex B, Vitamin D , Magnesium Hi Strength 600mg and im having weekly injections of Vitamin B12 which came back in blood test as very low aswel as Zinc and Manganese. Being low in all those Vitamins was contributing to me being run down and stressed out. Don't know if you have had a blood test to see if your low in any Vitamins etc but might be worth while checking out ?? I wish you all the very best with your struggle and try an stay positive and hopefully very soon ull turn the corner. Take care and best wishes for the future Lloyd

Hi Loyd

Thank you for your encouraging words. I'm tired of people telling me I can't stop this hideous drug. I'll definitely look into the vitamin deficiency. Im seeing my medical team the end of the month and they have some explaining to do and if they think they are going to add another tablet to the mix, hey have another thing coming. I'll beat this

Hi Marriette, hope all goes well when you meet your medical team. Keep me intouch how things go. Im right behind you Marriette you'll get thru this . Best wishes Lloyd

Hi Lloyd. I've been dealing with some issues and haven't been on much. My apologies for the late reply. The wafers I took a few times when. I was at the hospital. Your reduction sounds a lot like mine. People said it was too quick but I desperately wanted off these meds. Month 2 and 3 get pretty hard but I want to encourage you that it does get better with time. Please hold on. Whatever you can do to sleep please try as this will help tremendously I have found. I forced myself to yawn and that helped a little and also experimented with sleep meditation, baby lullabies, sermons, and podcasts when I went to sleep. Nothing was perfect but slowly it did get better. Again, what really helped me with my sleep I think also was the neurogenetic solutions supplements. I tried epsom salt baths, magnesium, fish oil, vitamin b, juice cleanse detox. Your body and brain need time to recover. I know this is hard Lloyd. It was the hardest thing I have been through but it is possible. Do everything you can to help the recovery and withdrawal. Physical exercise helps too. Anything you can manage. My best.

Hi Kate, im 5wks an 2days into Withdrawals from Zyprexa. My aches an pains mostly in my legs are worse now then they were couple wks ago. I have some headaches an insomnia is still poor altho i got 4hrs sleep last night. Been using Melatonin for past 2wks and hopefully it will kick in soon. My mind is still very clear and has been since going off Zyprexa. I go to shops every day for couple hrs this helps keep my mind off my Withdrawals. My Dr said i was deficient in Zinc Manganese and Vitamin D , B12 the latter im having B12 injections wkly. I take Vitamin B complex , D , C , Magnesium 600mg and a Multivitamin . I also hava Probiotic drink every day and some fat free an no added sugar Yohurt. If i can get some more regular sleep I'd be happy. Anyway I'll try n stay positive and hopefully i can get to another couple months an maybe I'll be alot better. Many thanks Kate for all your encouragement is much appreciated. Take care an best wishes. Lloyd from Oz

Hey Lloyd,

What I dont understand is why the doctor prescribed to me Olizanpine in the first place? Back in 2007 I had a mental breakdown first episode of psychotic depression where I started seeing people's faces as zombies although in my mind I perfectly knew it must be because of Vitamin 12 Deficiency. I was sent to menta hospital for 2 weeks after which the doctor put me on Olizanpine for 10 whole years. At first the doctor wanted me to finish my studies and told me to keep on taking zosert setriline and Oliza but later i had a rebound eepisode after stopping medication. Unfortunately after 10 years taking Oliza the side effects built up enormously. Now i changed to a different doctor and he gave me Nexito anti depressants . I finally stopped Olizanpine and i feel it was a mistake to give Oliza for long term to me in the first place as side effects are huge!

Hi Myo , sorry to hear bout your problems with going off Olanzipine. What side effects did you have while coming off Olanzipine ?? Withdrawals etc.. i hope your getting some relief from Nexito ?? Hang in there mate an take care. . Lloyd from Oz

Hey Lloyd and the others coming off olanzapine, I was on O for two years and finally came off last Sep I reduced from 5mg to 2.5mg then nothing. I thought I'd be ok but even that small amount was big in the scheme of things. But 7/8 months later I am glad to be free of that mind killing drug! The recommended way is to stabilise each reduction for 2 or more weeks then reduce again. if you cold turkey from a high amount 2.5 or higher then expect really bad withdrawals. It can be done as I am proud it can and you will have withdrawals no matter how small the amount. I have my story on one of the other pages but I want through anxiety, hot and cold flushes, no appetite, depression, feeling unwell, psychosis, hi and low with small times of feeling well and of course insomnia which is the killer for most. I sleep 7 hours mostly now which is doable. I worked full time while coming off which is hard but everyone knew and now I feel alive. Keep going and don't go on any other psyche meds it's a money maker at our expence. God bless! B.

Hi Kate, hope your doing well ? ? Im into my 6th wk of Withdrawals an like you said month 2 an 3 were pretty hard well im nearing that and finding it pretty tuff with mostly aches an pains in both legs giving me grief. Also still having insomnia but i think Melatonin is jus starting to give me some sleep 4hrs approx most nights. Also still have some Dizzy spells and some headaches. My mind still clear which is a plus. Continueing to take some Vitamins and dried fruit an nuts to nibble on to take symptoms off my mind. Go to shops every day to get some exercise. Thankyòu for all your support and i wish you the very best of health. Take care Lloyd from Oz

Hi.

How much olanzapine were you on originally ?when you say it was tough do you mean you had anxiety once you reduced the meds ?

Hi Ash , hope your doing well ? Zyprexa for 7-8yrs bout 6yrs or so on 10mg Wafers then last 18mths 15mg and tappered down over 8wk period and are into my 6th wk of Withdrawals. No anxiety jus terrible muscle aches an pains in both my legs some headaches an insomnia for which ive been taking Melatonin slow release tablets for past 4wks and only past few days have i had anywhere between 4-5hrs of sleep which is alot better then none. I did also have Diarrhea and Sweats early on but have subsided now. I didnt know anything bout possible Withdrawals from Zyprexa until i googled bout it when i was into my 2nd wk of Withdrawals. Since going off Zyprexa my mind has been so clear no more foggy head. Im hopefull I'll be able to see it thru even tho its very hard now. Only other Antidepressant im still taking is Mirtazapine 30mg which i reduced from 60mg 4-5mths ago and intend to come off this once i get thru these Zyprexa Withdrawals. Lloyd from Oz

Thanks Lloyd. Hope I am able to withdraw from olanzapine as well without too much hassle.

Hi Ash , best of luck with coming down off Zyprexa. Have my fingers crossed for you. Lloyd

Hi Kate, just an update on where im at atm. Im just into my 7th wk of Withdrawals from Zyprexa n still having aches an pains in both my legs i also hav some headaches but not as many as in previous wks. Been on Melatonin for just over 4wks for my Insomnia and in past few days ive had some sleep approx 4-5hrs per night. Sometimes I'll fall asleep for couple hrs then wake up for 2-3hrs then drift off back to sleep for another 2-3hrs. Its better than no sleep and i only hope things will get better from here on. Im seeing my Pain Specialist tomorrow and for my Back problems will ask him what he thinks bout my aches an pains in my legs and maybe he can suggest or give me something for the pain. Ive been having B12 injections wkly for past 7wks as im very low in B12. It has helped with my fatigue. Ive also been eating dried fruit an almonds thru-out the day to help keep my mind off the Withdrawals. I also take a vitamin B Complex , Vitamin D and a Multivitamin and Vitamin C drink. Anyway that's where im at Kate and i hope I'll beat these Withdrawals just like you did. Hope your doing well ?? Take Care an Best Wishes Lloyd from Oz

Hi Kate, im now into my 8th wk of Withdrawals from Zyprexa n still having aches an pains an some headaches an insomnia. But overall i think im getting on top of things as whilst aches an pains in my legs are very uncomfortable i do have times when i can cope alot better. Headaches are less frequent and while i my Insomnia is still an issue the Melatonin gives me anywhere from 4-6hrs sleep. I might get 2hrs sleep then awake for another 2hrs then sleep for another 3-4hrs. Or occasionally I'll get 4-6hrs straight. Anway If i can get a bit more break from the aches an pains in my legs I'll be alot better. I still determined to see it thru and im glad im at 8wks/2mth stage. Should be on the main straight soon 😆 i hope your doing well Kate ?? Take care an best wishes Lloyd