How or why to we contract Bleph' ?

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Has anyone found any reasons why we should come down with the dreaded Bleth'  in the first place ?

Could dogs licking your face transfer this particular bacteria or aid transfer a condition that Blepth' would like to live in ?

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    The Mayo Clinic says the following

    The exact cause of blepharitis isn't clear. Factors associated with the development of blepharitis include:

    Seborrheic dermatitis — dandruff of the scalp and eyebrows

    A bacterial infection

    Malfunctioning oil glands in your eyelid

    Rosacea — a skin condition characterized by facial redness

    Allergies, including allergic reactions to eye medications, contact lens solutions or eye makeup

    Eyelash mites or lice

    Certain medication — the severe acne medication isotretinoin (Amnesteem, Claravis, Sotret) can lead to an increase in bacteria on the eyelids and can affect tear production

    Blepharitis may be caused by a combination of factors.

     

    • Posted

      I think that I may have had the condition start roughly 50 years ago . I can remember having all kinds of sight problems and that is when the dryness started . Bavk in those days I can't imagine that much was known and everything  was called conjunctavitus . My condition is in the blocked eye glands catagory with a rare occurance of the bacteria spilling out onto my face and causing a "Rash " for a couple of months .

      Dogs jump up and lick your faces , no-one in their right mind would invite them to !!!! lol .Thinking of the relationship between dogs mouths and Strep '- whatever it's called .

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    Hi David, I used to wear contact lenses for several years which is when it 1st started. But looking back to when I was a little girl (long time ago) I think my mum had it but undiagnosed. She could never use make up and her eyes used to go slimy.

    Thanks to Lynda mine is now managable (only 1 eye affected). I can wear make-up again, I know not much interest to most blokes but a huge difference to a lot of the women out there. I started with the UK Wet ones which helped, then found Nutrogena Visable face wash which also contains same ingredient. Recently purchased the American Wet Ones online and I think these are far gentler on the skin. My eyelid isn't prone to going flaky and sore now. Don't think I will ever cure it completely after having it for around 15 years but feel I can live with it now and don't think to look at me others would notice I have a problem. Still have a watery eye but even that isn't as bad. I'm on my phone so apologise for any glaring typing errors.

  • Posted

    And, that is what I have always been told by my Consultant

    Personally,  I wouldn't want a dog to lick my face because they also lick their nether regions

     

  • Posted

    I was told it's from your nose which makes sense. Very easy to absent mindedly touch your eyes after your nose or wipe your eyes with the same hadkerkerchief you blow your nose with
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    Here are the major things, I think, cause them.

    01)  A dirty face can causing blepharitis as dirt can physically block eyelash

    ducts from emptying.

    Examples of this are:

    When cigarette smoke, yours or others, contacts your face when you are walking on the street, you are smoking, or it's blown into your face by the wind. If you can smell it, it's on your eyelashes.

    This is the same for campfire smoke, B.B.Q. grills (gas or charcoal), etc.

    If you are frying something to eat, the grease/oil/butter can get so hot that small drops spatter outside of the pan, making a mess on the stove. If this happens, there is grease/oil/butter in the air that gets on your eyelashes.

    If you are baking using flour, as the flour gets sifted, beaten, or mixed, some of the flour gets outside the area where you put it, and it lands on backs of your hands, and some gets in the air, which ends up on your face. The same thing happens when you use flour to dust a cutting board or dust a cake pan. As you now realize, the same is true for other fine powders like cornstarch, talcum powder, powdered spices, dry cement, sawdust, etc.

    Then there are chemicals used to clean the floors, the tub/shower, the dishes, etc. If you can smell it, it's on your face and can get on your eyelashes.

    OK, enough fpr # 1.

    02)  If your face gets hot and sweaty this can lead to blepharitis.

    Heat can cause your sweat to dry quickly, which can cause your eyelash ducts to clog up. This is similar to glue applied to a piece of paper drying faster when it's hot.

    Your should be aware that your sweat is made up of more than pure water.

    When it is drying it can become sticky. Sweat causes dirt (see above) to stick to your face. Sweat can also disolve dirt so it is harder to see. These two facts make sweat a major ccause of dirt getting spread around on your face and staying there.

    Then, there is the problem of bacteria. Sweat allows bacteria to live longer, as they don't dry out. Some bacteria even eat sweat and so, once again, live longer thanks to this food source. Bacteria can cause an infection in eyelash ducts, tear ducts, the inner and outer eye, etc.

    * Note - This is why it is a bad idea to share cosmetics with another person.*

    It is very important to remember to say no, when a friend wants to borrow your mascara, eye liner, under eye concealer, eye shadow, anti wrinkle cream, moisturizer, foundation, and/or other cosmetics.

    Cosmetics through normal use get bacteria in them. Similar to how your toothbrush gets colonized by bacteria. Both cosmetics and toothbrushes should be replaced regularly, For example, if you don't replace your toothbrush every three months you are putting more bacteria into your mouth and onto your teeth than brushing your teeth can remove.

    Enough of # 2.

    03)  If you leave your home you need to be aware of major actions that can cause dirt, sweat, bacteria, etc., to get on your eyelashes.

    So, do you wash your hands for more than 20 seconds per hand after ...?

    You sit on a chair, couch, floor, or touch the surface of a piece of furniture, counter top, sink, use a public toilet, etc., when waiting for your doctor's appointment, waiting for your prescription to be filled, or take public transit, etc.

    Do you wash your hands for more than 20 seconds per hand after ...?

    You are going to eat a meal, have just eaten a meal, just grabbed a sandwich from a outdoor food cart/vendor, exercise at a gym, take a yoga class, etc.

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    Then, there are the other less obvious places where you can get eye problems from doing.

    When you take a trip/vacation ...

    One action you do often, yet tend not think about, is when you handle money.

    It's incredibly dirty and carries lots of bacteria.

    Most people are careful at gas stations, but are not as careful at minute marts, on airplanes, on buses, on trains, or when you take a tours, tempels/churches/ open air markets.

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    Even if you try to be careful, when your eye gets a speck of something in it, it's really hard, and sometimes impossible to wash your hands before touching your eye.

    That's why it is a good idea to carry either a small bottle of hand sanitizer or individual pre-packaged hand cleaners in your purse.

    You should also carry a least a few one time only, ampules of sterile saline.

    These are a eye saver when you need to get a speck out of your eye.

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    Now that you have read all this, do you still find it difficult to understand why people get this kind of eye problem so frequently ?

    Of the three friends I talked to about this, over the years, they have all had it.

    They haven't had this problem again, since they learned to be more aware of how you touch your face.

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    * Note - It takes brisk, firm rubbing with soapy hands for a minium of 20 seconds (for each hand), to remove most of the dirt and bacteria on it. *

    How should you wash your hands and why do you need to wash for a minimum of 20 seconds ?

    Get at least 3 paper towels before you start washing.

    Place the paper towels, on a dry spot, within easy reach of the sink.

    Turn the water on and wet your hands.

    Next, put enough soap on your hands (minimum size is the size of a US quarter).

    Now, you need to briskly rub the soap to build up a good lather.\

    * OK, the 20 seconds begins now. *

    Begin by scrubbing clean your dominant hand's palm,

    then scrub the back of that palm,

    then scrub the two sides of that palm ( below the pinky finger and below the thumb),

    Repeat, washing the other hand's palm.

    Next, scrub the V shaped area between each finger, including and starting with the large area between the thumb and index finger,

    then scrub around each finger and thumb, along their entire length (starting from the base, near the palm, and proceeding outward to the tip of each finger).

    The timing of the 20 seconds ends here.

    It really isn't all that long, if you take the time to wash properly.

    Now, rinse your hands well, by briskly rubbing the soap off under running water, starting with the wrists and finishing with your fingertips.

    When soap is no longer visible, stop rubbing.

    Hold your hands under running water, for another 5 to 10 seconds or more, while turning them to make sure the soap is gone (this usually gets the last traces of soap off).

    Pick up a paper towel and use it to turn the sink faucets off.

    Dry hands with the other towels.

    Pick up the towel used to turn off the sink using the towels used to dry your hands.

    When exiting the toilet do not use your hand to open the door.

    Use your arm to push the door open.

    If it has a knob, pull your hand up inside one of your sleeves and use the sleeve to open the door.

    These doors are usually the dirtiest place in a toilet, due to those who do not wash their hands properly.

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    I have done my best to remember these things and be aware of my situation.

    Since then, I have been blepharitis free for 29 years.

    Until two months ago.

    One day I forgot to wash my hands when I got home after running several errands that included the pharmacy and the grocery store.

    I rubbed my left eye.

    A week or so later, I developed three clogged eyelash ducts.

    Two on the top lid and one on the lower lid.

    The lower one grew to about 2 mm.

    I almost went insane.

    I have sensitive eyes and the clogged eyelash ducts bothered me.

    It was like I had a lump pressing on my eye that made my eye irritated, so I would rub it, without thinking, making the entire mess worse.

    It woke me up from sleep several times every night.

    Yes, I woke up rubbing them.

    It was that bad.

    * Note - I put some ground cloves inside a small piece of Bounty paper towel (they don't shed and they don't fall apart. Not the cheap, thin, so called economical ones, the original type Bounty towels).

    I folded over the edges to make a very small package.

    Then I added hot water to moisten and squeezed just enough to stop it from dripping.

    I placed this over my eye to stop the irritation and pain (from rubbing them in my sleep).

    Clove oil stops pain and it worked really well.

    Just don't use a dripping pack, as you don't want any drips in your eye.

    They used to use these clove packs for toothaches.

    Now they use the clove oil in a gel you squeeze on your gums to stop toothaches.

    I have even used the whole cloves, wrapped of course, just as sucessively, but they can feel rather hard and they don't taste good.

    Still, it's way better than a bad toothache or a screeming, teething baby with sore gums.

    They're great for bug bites too.

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    So, what did I have to do to get rid of them ?

    It took me a month and a half, two doctor visits, two perscription medications, and tons of time doing the annoying eye treatment routine, described below.

    I had to scrub my eyes with special eye soap, every night and in the morning.

    When that was done, I had to heat and re-heat paper towels with very hot water, and put them on my eyes, for at least 10 minutes each time.

    During the time the towels were on my eyes, I had to press the eyelash area to open the ducts and express whatever was clogging them.

    Once this mess was finished, I had to add the perscription ointment to my eye.

    Now I'm free of them and intend to keep it this way.

    I never want another one of these things.

    I really hope all this detailed indfformation will help you.

    • Posted

      Thank you for all the time and enegy that you put into that reply !

      I'd say that i've maybe had a bleph related problem for nearly 51 years , but back in those days there wasn't really much knowledge .

      I'm wondering if continual years of being prescribed Oxytetracycline as a young teen , right through to my early twenties , could have impaired my immune system . Back in the sixties and seventies " chucking " antibiotics down your throat was "the answer to everything " .

      Luckily I'm without any facial skin issues only having the stinging rash on my face when i went through the wet runny eyes period of bleph . No caked up eyelashes , not even first thing in the morning .

      Dryness is the major issue along with one eye having blurred vision now and then and if that eye goes really dry over night , or if there's too much dreaming and R.E.Movement , the result is a near totally bloodshot eye .

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      You may sleep with your eyes open.

      There are over the counter eye lubricants that are preservative free.

      You could try one before going to sleep and see if it helps you.

      The preservatives can cause your dry eyes to sting and/or get even more irritated and red.

      So, stick to the preservative free lubricants.

      Along with this, you can try putting a flat cotton pad (not a cotton ball) over your eye(s) and tape it on your face using sports tape.

      I have really sensitive skin, and sports tape is OK for me.

      If it's too expensive, you can use a few fabric bandaids.

      You can find these cotton pads in the women's makeup department. 

      They are used to remove makeup and come in square and oval forms.

      Try the oval ones, as they fit better over your eye.

      You want to force your eye closed, keeping it hydrated.

      *** Actually, if this last one helps, you probably are sleeping with your eyes open and don't know it. ***

      A sleep mask isn't comfortable for me, but could work for you if the pads are uncomfortable.

      It has to fit fairly tightly over your eye though or you will have to tape it down or add something under it to press against your eyelids.

      Another possible help would be keeping your room humidified.

      They do have cold humidifers, but the water can condense on the walls and make a great place for mold to grow in the room.

      It also feels damp and clamy to me.

      So, I'd say use a heated humidifer with an anti-mold product added to the DISTILLED water.

      This is NOT spring water or tap water, it's 100% pure water.

      You can buy it in any grocery store, in the aisle that has things for ironing.

      Most people use this kind of water to fill their irons.

      A gallon cost about $1.00 ( back in the 70's ).

      * You can wet one of the cotton pads with this and use it over your eye, if you can figure out how to keep it in place.*

      One or more of these suggestions should help your dry eyes.

      If they don't let me know.

      I have a few more suggestions, but these are the ones most likely to work for you and are cheaper.

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      As to your question.

      Could Oxytetracycline as a young teen, right through to my early twenties have impaired my immune system ?

      I don't think so, but it may have made your normal body bacteria resistant to this antibiotic.

      If you are ever prescribed an antibiotic, you should make sure to tell the doctor about your taking this one for a long time.

      The doctor will probably choose a different one for you to use.

      F.Y.I.

      Just so you know, there is a great site for free medical info.

      http://www.drugs.com/drug_information.html ;

      It has as much detail, as you want to read about.

      They even post the information that doctor's get (I usually read this part).

      They also have a drug interaction search that is second to none.

      It's saved me a few times.

      Even my doctor didn't know about some of these interactions.

      It lists hundreds of interactions and rates them as severe, moderate, and mild.

      It's a great site and easy to use, unlike many others.

      I hope this helps.

      My dry eyes ended when I used the drops and a cotton pad.

      I retrained them to stay shut at night, over several months.

      I did need to add a pink noise generator to sleep really well.

      The pad bothered me and I kept waking up.

      I tried white noise, but I hear conversations in this range of sound.

      Pink noise sounds like rain or a waterfall.

      I found a free app., for Apple computers, on the web called "Noisy", that's as simple as it gets.

      It has three buttons, off, white, pink.

      Worked on my old computer until it died, and it's working great on my new one.

      I hope this helps you fix your eye problem and you start to sleep well at night once more.

      Few things are worse than having a persistant eye or vision problem.

      Again, please let me know if these don't work for you.

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      Thank you so much for your reply . Alot of what you said the head of the dept' at the hospital had been through with me and he also asked if i'd ever had anyone to actualy check that my eyes are closed when asleep . They certainly are closed and I've been using lacrilube as prescribed to keep my eyes "oiled " (greased ! ) over night .

      He felt that overused antibiotics back in the sixties may have caused many problems with the deveopment of the immune system in tennagers .

      here in the Uk antibiotics are now being held back for use only where they are needed as the last resort . The days of giving them out as a magic potion , is over !

      I understand that if you use Chrome on your system you can download some software where you can adust the hues , or use filtering to make screen reading easier and more enjoyable .

      I no longer wake feeling that a grit covered taupaulin had been in contact with my eyes . If I dream alot , and there's alot of R.E.M , then they can still be a little sore the next day .

      Many thanks again for you time , appreciated .

      He put me on a 6 week course to an antibiotic , just in case it may work , but this made no difference at all . He told me that there is no cure , omly getting to a managable state .( which I'm in now )

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