HRT in surgical menopause

Thank you so much for replying and sorry to hear that you have RA.. I have been tested negative for it. I hope you have found some balance and you are right, high doses of estrogen don't necessary work.

Thank you for your concern. Glad you tested negative but so did I. I had the vector test. The one you have to pay 2000 and send to California. Showed moderate to severe. So RA factor doesn't always prove.

I am at two month mark. Went in to talk abt HRT. Blood tests showed perfect levels and I feel better but hair still falling. She said we can back off on testosterone some. Told me to at least try it one more time before deciding to stop. I consider my osteo porosis and pain levels. Dont want to start prolia again in Feb. Been off a yr cause of dental work and implant. Prolia does increase my pain. Guess pixie hair is not that big of a deal compared to positives of HRT. Vag and urethra/bladder health is a great motivator. Had pelvic floor disorder and did physical therapy that cleared up interstitial cystitis. Menopause should grow hair on our chests for being tough enough to survive it! Thank you and if u have any swelling in hands or joints... do the vector test. RA tears up everything

That's fascinating. I had no idea you could still have RA and it not show on standard bloods. Wishing you well. It sure is a battle and a minefield.

Hi thanks for replying and glad you've found something that works for you. Have you had womb and ovaries removed?

No hun i havent ...sorry to hear that u have...but please ask about the everel they do 2 types xx

Hi Karen, glad you're doing well, this is what I'm on now but still no stability 😐 thanks though

Sheryl thanks for the information. I've never heard of this but it is definitely worth checking out. I will talk to my docs abt this and ask for gene test. Thank you. Spurgeon1

Thanks so much for all that info. I will look into it. I am already on pellets which I thought would be the answer. Strangely when I added progesterone, I felt fantastic but short term. Nothing seems to last in terms of feeling good or avoiding the pain flare ups which come with a feeling of dropping estrogen as if my body uses more with any exertion and cant catch up! That said I'm having testosterone too thinking it eould help with muscle weakness, all it seems to do is make me moody!

Yes, I suffer from muscle weakness now attributed to the fatigue, weakness and muscle and bone pain caused by haemochromatosis and I can't do much. Any exertion really knocks me. I have short days. I have more ongoing problems because of the 9 year delay of diagnosis and treatment. I have tried various things and now trying HMB (Calcium Hydroxymethyl-Butyrate), sometimes accompanied by GABA (Gamma Aminobutyric Acid) which I don't like how it has to be taken, so I have gone off the GABA. I can't say that there is any noticeable results. However I started feeling really good after about 3 months, and then found that my GHF-1 was a little high. Endocrinologist sent me off for suppression tests, then I felt weak and tired and achey again.

There is a research study that found that HMB prevented further wasting of muscle for those who are weakened and bed ridden. That is the best I could find reading research. We need some Growth Hormone Factor but would only be prescribed that if dr is sympathetic.

In Australia, women don't seem to be prescribed testo because of the bad effects. In fact for men now, it has to be prescribed by a urologist or endocrinologist for medical reasons. My husband being one of them, because of the damage done by chemo and radium therapy for Hodgkins Lymphoma. His testo got so low that oestrogen took over and he started growing breasts.

The reason for this is to prevent body builders from using it because of the damage it does to them including increased aggression, prostate cancer and many others.

Haemo is also a hormone thief which makes us need more. I am giving you this info in case your Iron Studies test indicates haemo. If so, then you should be sent for a genetic test. If not positive, ask your dr for a pituitary gland hormone test. This could show up some anomalies which can be treated.

Yes, moody and hair loss but mustache and sole patch are nice and healthy! Progesterone has not even been mentioned to me. But you must take DIM supplement with the pellet. Helps control the effects I realized. Hang in there. Leveling seems to take months not hours or days. Cold damp weather also makes me hurt more. I notice warm showers feel so good and calm it down. Being calm is key also. Talk to your doc about that. When keyed up the tension also causes muscle pain. I hope you get better and better every day. We have too much to do to be miserable and sore all the time!

Wow... like what else girl! When it rains it pours. Tests and more tests. But you are being proactive and doing your research. You have a lot to deal with. Really. I will do these and find out. I kno abt things taking yrs to diagnose. Keep your happy and calm. Dont let things overwhelm you. Sometimes I just read, research ancestry or do some kind of craft or art that I can get obsessed with. Keeps my mind off the other stuff. If you get out or have girlfriends it's great but I tend to stay home. I also found out recently my BP and pulse has lowered with HRT. This is a big plus. Didnt kno this could happen. Been yrs 130/90 or more 122 pulse or higher just at rest. Now 114/72 and 76 pulse. This is amazing change. Thanks for your advice. I will use it. You take care.

I only go pear shaped when my oestrogen is running out. Like recently, and my dr going by my oestrogen bloods considered I was ok. But I was not, and after a bad week of sweats, tears, intolerance/anger, extremely bad hair, unable to cope, incontinence, etc. (all of which would lead to a bad marriage!), I slapped on a patch. A couple of hours later I realised how calm I was, prepared and ate dinner calmly, and life was sweet again.

Next visit I will tell her I cannot live with her version of appropriate amounts of oestrogen. I will face her in a couple of months when my patches run out. Sometimes she is good about oestrogen, and sometimes she defaults to her personal beliefs.

I don't have bad effects from oestrogen, all is good. The bad effects appear only if I don't have enough oestrogen. I have read about DIM and I don't want anything suppressing my oestrogen in any form. I have been using oestradiol for 29 years. If something bad was going to occur, it would have by now.

Thank you. You have a lot of knowledge and experience. Much appreciated. Take care.

Thank you. Yes I find the weather flares things up. You are right about stress, I have had a recent stressful period so that wont help!

Funnily enough, I have slapped a patch on and much better. I think its testosterone my body doesn't like!

I am not surprised, but then I have not had any experience of taking testo. In fact, I take an anti-androgen to get rid of testosterone, as it interferes with my oestrogen. My libido is good with plentiful oestrogen.

Gives me hope! 😁