I am 62 female newly diagnosed with pmr,

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Hi,

So new to forums and pmr.

Newly diagnosed after 18mths of pain symptoms etc.

I feel worried angry and fed up is this normal.

Frustrated that I can do so little and I may not be able to work again.

Is anyone out there feeling the same ?

J

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    Unfortunately, yes, the frustrations of knowing that there is no cure and the only medication that stems the pains causes so many side effects.  Fatigue, lack of stamina, lack of taste and smell, possible diabetes, blurriness are all possible side effects.  I thought I was going crazy because I cant stand and work as a tennis official any more.  The only thing that keeps me going is that it may just go away someday and the support of those on this web-site, more knowledge here than in the doctors offices.

    Good luck and don't hesitate to ask questions on this site.

    Tony

    • Posted

      Hi,

      I so understand what you mean, I thought this horrible condition was curable, could I be wrong.

      Hope you have a good day.

      Julia

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    Julia, have they not got the pain under contril for you? Unless you work at something involving fine motor stuff, what would stop you, once you feel better?

    I find the exhaustion of PMR means that rest is essential, but work in between is possible!

    Feel better, life goes on!

    • Posted

      Hi,

      Thank you for you're reply.

      The pain reduced quickly with meds, it's the fatigue I find so frustrating.

      Work wise I have been in retail for many years, the last 8 opening new stores.

      Last year I injured my back and decided to do the merchandising side, displays etc.

      I thought that would be easier, wrong, got to the point I couldn't lift the smallest ladders.

      I feel utterly lost, sounds dramatic, if I can't work, mentally I will go mad and financially it disastrous.

      Sounds trivial but I am really worried.

      Hope you ok,

      Julia

    • Posted

      Julia - the odd thing about all this is that there are ways round: if you work with others then think about how to delegate and make it good for you. I teach so I pace myself on that, but at home I find many things changed from storage cans in the kitchen which I couldn't lift or open to new light weight vacuum cleaner. I didn't realise why I was making some changes until I stepped back to re-evaluate. It is surprising how one can adapt. Plan, delegate, and get others to help where one can. There have been a number of breakages here as well, and the floors only get swept when the spirit moves me. the dogs don't mind one bit!

      Helen

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    Hi Julia,  I fully uderstand and sympathise with the way you are feeling right now.  I am fairly new to this too, having been daignosed in March and I'm still finding it hard to come to terms with the extreme feeling of fatigue and weakness which seems to overtake me from time to time. I find I am unable to do nearly as much as I used to do without having to rest in between, which as you say, is very frustrating. I have just come back from a day in London - went to an afternoon concert at the Festival Hall - and even before I arrived in London on the train I felt exhausted, not helped by having to stand for the entire journey!  Before PMRI would have taken a day out like this in my stride and thought nothing of it, now I'm not even sure whether I could face it again and that makes [u]me[/u] miserable!  Like you, I've always been the one in my family to help everyone else and it's hard to say no, especially when it comes to my grandchildren, whom I love dearly but although I found it tiring looking after them before, I now find it exhausting whichI really upsets me.  On a more positive note, I [u]am[/u] gradually learning to pace myself a bit more and no longer feel guilty if I sit down for an hour or so to read or even have a doze in the afternoon!

    As you say, it's supposed to be a nice day tomorrow and I was looking forward to planting up my tubs and hanging baskets but maybe, after the day out today it will be too much, will have to wait and see how I feel.

    Good luck and keep smiling!

  • Posted

    Welcome Julia!

     

    I've been involved with this forum for six months. I developed GCA seven years ago and PMR two years later. Somedays I'm thankful I don't have a fatal disease like my only sibling devloped when he was 36 - malignant brain tumor. Then after I think I'm dealing with this complete change in my lifestyle, I get depressed and hate myself. I've put on 60 lbs. I look like a different person. I can hardly walk and breathe. Exercise for this formerly active athletic person is very difficult. One of my favorite activities was gardening, especially hardscaping -building rock walls, ponds and waterfalls. My 29 year old business working mainly with children had to be closed.

    But today was a good one.My husband took me to a few garage sales and this afternoon I was able to wash my kitchen floor. I did it in four sections and it's not even that big. My husband has done it for me many times but I seriously need the exercise and he does so much for me  - shopping, cooking, etc. Our kitchen floor gets so dirty from our golden retriever's shedding and drool. At least the carpet on our other floors is taken care of by our robot vacuum cleaner (a roomba) our son gave us. What a great present that was!

    What I'm trying to say is you will have good days and bad days, highs and lows. This forum is so helpful. Such supportive caring people. Good luck.   Jan

    • Posted

      It must be particularly difficult for you having had to give up so much. It is no surprise that you will feel depressed especially as you are not able to do so much. I think the weight gain can be also depressing as it causes other difficulties and it becomes a vicious circle to which I can certainly relate. I am glad you had a good day and hope that they will start to be the norm for you rather than the exception.
    • Posted

      Hi,

      Thank you for your reply.

      I said in a previous reply there is always someone worse off than me.

      I read you're reply, and realise I am lucky I can do as much as I am doing.

      You must never hate yourself, this condition may change the way we live,

      but not who we are.

      Says me, who isn't even dressed, looks like a bag lady and has been looking at the lawnmower for the passed hour.

      Hope today is a good day for you.

      Julia

  • Posted

    I'm sitting here wrapped in a towel at 10.30 (only so late because it is Sunday and hairwash day) because when I shower I don't waste energy drying myself - I find another task sitting down until I and my hair have dried! 

    It is a case of learning not how to fight your battles but which battles to fight - and then learning how NOT to fight. There are things that aren't necessary  to the extent we think when we are healthy - keep what energy you have for the essentials.

    And you have to think ahead - assistance is available for travelling so it may be worth investigating that on occassions. Combining two energy-expenditure-rich things is always a problem - and sitting at a concert and participating even mentally is tiring - and then you are faced with getting home! It's a pain - but think how much more difficult it would be if confined to a wheelchair.

    That is a blessing of pred when you are complaining about the side effects - because that is probably where many of us would be eventually without it. When pred was first developed it was greeted as a wonder drug because they gave to patients with arthritis who got up out of their wheelchairs and walked - almost certainly PMR patients. 

    Fatigue and all, I can do so much more now on pred than I could in the 5 years when I had PMR and no pred. But I have learnt to choose my battles wisely and while there are a few things dear to my heart I no longer do, in general, it is a pretty decent life. I am, of course, lucky in that my work for years has been centred on the computer so it is mainly mental exhaustion that becomes a problem and I do sympathise with anyone who is young enough to have to still work and at a job that needs physical abilities.

    This remains a problem - doctors are so fixed on the idea that only people in their 70s develop PMR that there is little thought about the aspect of working. That is the AVERAGE age at diagnosis, which very probably all too often represents a failure to diagnose when it first presents, and which doesn't show the span of ages. Increasingly retirement ages are being extended - so the women who are in the majority with PMR by about 3:1, who used to retire at 60 and many of whom possibly didn't work outside the home, are now still in employment. Frequently they are in retail or nursing or caring - and while PMR didn't stop me sitting at a computer in the office next to my bedroom (since I worked from home), it is a major obstacle for anyone who has to travel to be at work early in the morning and who has to be able to move freely.

    Perhaps it is something that requires a group to get together and lobby. The authorities do need to realise that in raising retirement age it may impact severely on people like us in the future. GCA is covered by disability legislation in the UK, I know some people in the US, I think with PMR,  who have been successful in getting disability payments. But they are the exception - more often than not the doctors are under the delusion that when they give us steroids we are back to 100% normal and life will go on as before so PMR doesn't pose the problem RA does for example - although in RA there is a really wide range of drugs that can be mixed and matched. For PMR there pred, cheap as chips and, they believe, fully effective. And only old ladies get PMR - already out of the workforce so no longer of interest fiscally. That is going to change over the next 20 years - maybe it will change the perceptions of the fundholders too.

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      Our newish government has already reversed the raising of the retirement age brought in by the previous government.  Previous gov had pointed to France as their example.  Problem is, France raised retirement age to 62 from 60 (also reversed?).  Ours was raised from 65 to 67.  What is retirement age in UK now?  I think as long as retirement isn't compulsory people will often work longer anyway (I did).
    • Posted

      Currently 65 for men, sliding adjustment for women rising from 60 to 65 (or they had to give men the state pension at 60 too). Then it will rise to 66 at some point, not sure when. But then it will rise steadily.

      It's crackers - they haven't enough jobs for youth because the oldies are still working in the jobs! Nothing would induce me to work longer if I didn't need to! Some posts in the NHS have compulsory retirement ages and others have earlier ones if they are particularly stressful. Police retire early too.

    • Posted

      Looks much the same as here - generally you have to have 42 years of contributions to claim your pension but if you have less you have to wait until 65. No allowances for being at school past 16 or at university as in the UK or for having time to look after children when they are small. So my husband qualified for his Italian and German bites of pension at the beginning of last year - but has had to wait until this year for his UK pension. It was very complicated...
    • Posted

      PS - or did you see the headline about children born now being 78 by the time they can have a pension? It's unlikely to be any different in the UK...
    • Posted

      I have a long-standing friend I joined the RAF with, back when we were both 15.  He was posted to Norway and married a Norwegian lass and when he was demobbed went to live and work in Oslo.  I speak to him on a regular basis via Skype and he only retired a couple of years ago (aged 73) as he had not fulfilled the Norwegian requirements for a full pension!
    • Posted

      Yes - 40 years. It was 30 years in the UK when we left but has now been increased to 35 - I got mine on 30, and David had paid enough contributions in the UK just (more luck than judgement) but since this is the new rules we have no idea how much he will get. His years in Germany and here made it enough years to qualify - but of course it is only a mini-pension here. But the all-important bit is medical care as an Italian pensioner! He's also entitled from Germany and that would cover me as well - so if Brexit happens we may have to go cap in hand begging.

      I worked for a year here until it was obvious I was paying out more to be allowed to work than I could earn - the financial crash changed things a lot for me, companies can't afford the luxury of a real translator when they can use a computer programme to get it wrong or they send their staff to learn English - fine for meetings, different matter for reports though. That one year might entitle me to a couple of euros - and healthcare cover...

      Ah well, such is life!

    • Posted

      I suppose it makes a certain amount of sense if the human lifespan is actually increasing by so much.  Once upon a time most people didn't live much beyond that traditional 65 years, but now more of us do.  What concerns me about long range plans like this is it's entirely possible that owing to many factos the next generation may not live as long.  In fact I read somewhere that our generation may not last as long as our parents - we're the ones who grew up with a food supply contaminated by chemicals, were introduced at an early age to too much sugar and fat, especially trans fat, and were exposed to more than the background level of radiation.  We also in general probably got less exercise than our parents with the advent of automobile culture and television, a situation which is worsening. I don't know if the miracles of modern medicine can completely counteract those assaults.
    • Posted

      I understand we will probably live longer than our parents - but it is our children's chilrdren's generation who may not as all the criteria you list applied to them far more. The 50s and 60s weren't that bad! Obestity and "stuff" wasn't too much of a problem for our children but is increasing in the next generation.

      The problem that leads to putting the state pension age later is because there are fewer contributing towards our pension costs because the birthrate is falling. So everyone has to work longer. There is some skewed economic theory too though - but I won't get into that!

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      I've been royally ticked for some time about the way our public pension scheme has been handled.  It is, in fact, far healthier than the gloom and doomers who hate governments say, but it could be better, as could our health care.  I've been questioning whatever did the government do with OUR taxes during all those years, still going on actually, while the giant boomer cohort wound its way through working life.  That was a cash crop all right.  Where did it go?  (In the US probably to war, but in Canada????).
    • Posted

      Short-termism. At any point they have a pretty long forewarning of population numbers in the future. In the UK at least. If they had put their brains in gear they would have known that the birthrate in this particular year is such that in 4/5/6/7 years down the road, depending on the country and school starting age, they will need more school places for first year. And for the following 11 years or so there will be a similar number of school places required for that cohort. Unless there is a mass extiction of children.

      Plenty of time to think about it. Do they? No, suddenly there aren't enough places, parents can't get their child into the school of their choice - chaos reigns. But it isn't their fault (the gubmint I mean). Daft!

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      A few years ago the powers that be decided to limit doctor training at our local medical school.  Just in time for a shortage to occur as the boomer-aged doctors retired...rolleyes
    • Posted

      I would like to defend the shortage of school places - it's very patchy and schools don't know until a few months before if a child has been allocated a place in your school called NOR, which determines what monies you get to pay Staff etc .

      Sometimes it depends on who turns up until the start of term in September - some move in or out the area or even the country during the Summer break.  The Local council might well have an idea but we all know how long they take to make decisions!!  In my LA area there is only a small bulge for 2 years and the numbers might well go down again so you can see why the 'powers to be' are hesitant to build bigger or more schools. 

      I might also add there is a national shortage of teachers particularly Heads. It's not a job lots of people want to take up with all the 'things' our dear Mr Gove and his sidekick Ms Morgan have foisted onto the education system.  Sorry I had to come back on this one, as you may know, I have been a Governor (including being Chair of Governors for several years) in two schools and for many years have witnessed first hand what our goverments of both colours have done to our education system - rant over!!  Feel better now.

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