I am confused pip and esa

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My grandson who has autism/asperges syndrome was diagnosed in 2004, he left school and did a college course in media which he passed, he had specials needs mentor, it all ;became to much for him, he was awarded PIP till 2020 anyway he has put a claim in for  ESA.and they have written a letter asking him to come in for a health and work conversation and its upset him.

His Doctor has given him a sick/fit note for 8 weeks and also said that it is a life long condition and that he can't see him able to work anytime soon.

Does he have to go to this work conversation as he didn't when he applied for his  PIP .I am not as i will be able to get him to go to be honest, his voice went up a pitch when i read the letter out to him.

What should i do.

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krys70

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    Hi,

    Yes i'm afraid he will have to go to this face to face assessment. ESA and PIP are 2 completely different benefits. ESA is about the work you can do and not the work you can't do. If he doesn't attend this assessment then his file will be returned to DWP and he will imediately be found fit for work and his ESA will stop. It makes no difference if his GP says he's unfit for work, i'm afraid. Hopefully he'll be put into one of the groups once a decision's been made. Please google ESA assessment and ESA descriptors and it will give you a list of all those descritpors. This will hopefully give you some understanding on what it's all about.

    May i ask if your his appointee? or does he have an appointee? If he does then this person will be able to speak on his behalf during the assessment but he'll still have to attend as well. I'm afraid i'm unable to post any links here but there's lots of information available through google.

    Did he send in any evidence to support his claim? If he didn't then i'd strongly advice he takes this with him when he has the assessment. Hope this helps. Good luck.

     

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      Thank you  so much for your reply denise, but whats the point of a sick note then if it means nothing and can be dismissed this easily. 

       

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      No problem. Well that's because it's a GP's thoughts and not DWP. As i said ESA is about what you can do not what you can't. They'll assess him on his ability to be able to do any type of work.

      Yes he can withdraw his application but with PIP his won't get his National Insurance paid, with ESA you do, so there's a huge difference.

      You can indeed ring and ask for a home assessment but you'll need a letter from his GP stating the reasons why this is needed and why he can't go to one of there assessment centres. It's certainly worth thinking about, rather than canceling his claim.

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    What to do , is call ESA and explain that he's terrified to leave house and ask for a house visit.

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      I don't understand why they think he would be able to work with what he has got, who will employ him, It makes no sense to me. 

      Can he withdraw his application for esa  and just manage on his PIP?

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      Yes a know, it's all wrong what they put people through, I don't know how that one works , google it , sorry to hear about your son 

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