I am in the frozen stage of Frozen Shoulder & have had 16 PT visits, any one had any luck with PT?

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My frozen shoulder started around Sept. of 2017. It started with a little "twinge" in my left bicep. I thought I had pulled it at the gym, so I did not think much of it. I rested it and it seemed to get better, but looking back, as well as reading the symptoms, I realize now that I was in the freezing stage of frozen shoulder. After a while sleeping on my left side became too painful, and while walking my dogs my left shoulder would hurt so bad I just wanted to lay down where I was and not finish the walk. I didn't even notice that I lost all range of motion until I was reaching for something and the pull was so bad in my bicep that I started to cry. I had an MRI done but it did not show any tears and it took 2 doctors to diagnose what I had. Everyone was saying it was my neck (I had a c6/c7 disc fusion back in May of 2013), but I KNEW that wasn't it (I also had an MRI of my neck and it all looked normal). I had 2 cortisone shots and they did nothing. I had a short round of steroids (6 day pack) and again, nothing. I am on Hydrocodone-Acetaminophen 5/325. I take one in the morning (after I finish my errands and don't have to drive) and one and a half before going to bed around 9pm. It seems it does not help too much with the pain. I tried taking Gabapentin with the pain meds but it kept raising my fasting blood sugar (I am type 2 diabetic) so I had to stop taking it.

So, to get to the point, I have been frozen for about 5 months, have had 14 PT visits and the Dr ordered 12 more. I did make some progress with ROM, but that seems to have stopped. The Dr told me that, at this point, surgery would be more painful than helpful. Has anyone ever had ANY success with PT? Does anyone have any suggestions with managing the pain? I can't imagine going through this pain for several more months. I am not sleeping and getting more depressed. Thank you in advance!

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    hi sorry to hear that you are going through this awful condition. I am a survivor of x2 frozen shoulders. with the first I was sent to physio... come out crying and decided it was of little use after 3 sessions. it actually made the pain worse! The second FS I pretty much let it take its course. I used a heat pad (life saver) ; a TENS machine and over the counter pain relief. Both shoulders took exactly the same time to heal ; the first I tried EVERYTHING to get rid of the pain; speed up the process etc but nothing worked. I now have full ROM back in both arms. I hope this helps a bit.

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    I just had my surgery for frozen shoulder but I also had impingement I am just out of one week from surgery already in therapy very painful and a long ways to go. Only time will tell if anything gone right.

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    Hey, Patricia -

    Go through these forums, and you'll find folks who have been successful with PT.  Of course, you'll find folks who swear that it made them worse.  But you've been frozen for a really long time, so you might want to look into other options -- all of which you'll find discussions on this forum.  Acupuncture, dry needling,  MUA, arthroscopic release, OAT procedure, hydrodilation, PT, massage, and just leavin' it alone.  There's a lot of misinformation and disagreement -- even within the medical community -- so it's up to us to do the research, find what's best for our individual situation, and be our own advocates.  The doctors are just workin' blokes who want to get home for dinner like the rest of us.     5 months frozen is a long time.     Bless your heart and good luck.
    
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    I had the same thing 2 years ago it was horrible.I couldnt work all I did was suffer untill I found a Dr in Canada who does MUA(manipulation Under Anastesia).It is the only thing that works.Trust me all other drs want to string you along.Frozen shoulder is scar tissue that needs to be broken thru.Dr O does it without cutting or any surgery.There are drs in the US who do itso look into here but It Is The Only Answer.Pain free and full range of motion.Totally worth it I got my life back

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      yes that is what I just had done. They can done it arthroscopy or no cutting this was done in by Dr Walker in TriPoint Hospital in Concord Ohio

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    I had a frozen shoulder for all of 2017. it was not diagnosed for almost the first 6 months. I then did 16 weeks of PT with no relieve. The biggest problem there is the physical therapist had no idea what a frozen shoulder was so he was no help to me at all. Finally, had ortho take a look at it and only thing left was for him to go in and manipulate the shoulder to start the thawing process. Had very intense Physical Therapy. These people what was going on. Pain I am talking painful therapy sessions but well worth it. That really helped but since I have been dealing with a rotator cuff issue in same shoulder. Reason for it is I was frozen for so long the rotator cuff forgot how to work. it is now May 2019 and it is finally starting to feel better. Thought this time would never come. it has been a long road. Hope this helps

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      sorry to hear it took that long .I just had mind done under Anastasia along with other shoulder surgery in therapy painful. Hopefully time will tell.

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      I forgot to add since this was a couple of years ago. I also tried acupuncture for 6 weeks which didn't help either. it was a painful year as far as that goes but it is much better now. Now I am dealing with bulging discs in the back. I wish all this would just stop.

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      yes the cortisone shot was able to drive and work .But if they do the steroids injection like I had I was put to sleep they go in your spine and inject other you ate having your problems. there you do not drive or work that day.

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    *The frozen shoulder for me seems to finally over but the bulging discs in the L1-L5 region is really getting the best of me. I have had PT, 2 injections with no relief. Today I went to our PCM and found out she does Battlefield Acupuncture. She applied these little pins in my ear. Sounds weird but it gave me immediate relief. Could not believe the difference. I have an appointment in 4 weeks and she plans on doing more acupuncture. With the way I feel now I can hardly wait to get more relief.

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    Physiotherapy can work absolute wonders for frozen shoulder, but everyone is different and like with most forms of treatment it is not 100% successful. Are you living in England? NHS guidelines advise 6 sessions with a physio, which can be spread out over as much time as needed. After 6 sessions, if things are improving then you would usually be discharged, however if they're not improving or getting worse you would usually be referred on to someone else. Even if you're not in the UK, i'd say 14 sessions into physiotherapy and feeling no better, it's time to explore other avenues. Go back to your GP and ask to be referred to a shoulder specialist, or explain to your physio that you dont feel like it is helping and you'd like to be referred for further assessment.

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