I feel i am having a break down from my partners drinking
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My girlfriend drinks from when she is awake until she passes out. I get home about 6pm on a good day and she has already done three bottles. Then the arguments have already started whilst i am at work. She has a drink and her personality goes from the loviest woman i ever met to the point where she runs out and disappears late at night putting herself in danger. Ive spoken to her family and no help. But they are drinkers. She went to local drink clinic but to be fair i is a awful service there. The gp will not help. She suffers with anxiety and ocd. I try getting her to put soda water in but falls on deaf ears. Come morning she is a different person, wonderful to point i don't want to leave just to enjoy her sober. Shes got no support other then me. I am holding on to stay strong but for how long? Has anyone had same issue or can anyone please direct me to someone that can help me save her. Shes only 32 and it is a struggle to get her to eat. Any advice be really appreciated. Thank you
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RHGB rich42101
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I take it that's three bottles of wine. Second, how long has she been ikes this. Third, are you in the UK, US, somewhere else.
rich42101 RHGB
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I take her To her doctors and had no help. Just have no idea what way to turn
Joanna-SMUKLtd rich42101
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In many areas of the UK, the local health authority guide doctors to refer a patient with an addiction issue onto the local alcohol recovery service to see a doctor who specialises in addiction and any co-morbity issues, such as anxiety, depression and ocd. The general feeling is that a GP (general practitioner) doesn't often have enough experience in dealing with such specific issues that often require long-term help. It works in a similar way to if you found a lump... you would start by visiting your GP, and then because your GP doesn't specialise in this area, he/she would refer you onto a physician who does specialise in that area.
A GP will prescribe medications and tests for 'everyday' type of conditions, but if you think about it, anything more complicated (whatever that may be) is usually referred onto a specialist of some sort. I often think of GPs as well-qualified receptionists getting paid lots of money because for many conditions, they just book an appointment for you to see someone else!
Anyway, did you doctor refer your girlfriend on to a local addiction or other mental health service? Or provide any information, leaflets or phone numbers for her to self-refer herself to them?
If not, then he/she should have done, and you (she) needs to ask the doctor to do so. Under the NHS Constitution, she has a right be be seen by a qualified and experienced physician to assess what help is available to her. If her GP does not feel able to deal adequately with her mental health issues, then they have a responsibility under that Constitution to refer her to someone who can assess her. They cannot just offer no help to someone who is clearly demonstrating that they have a drinking problem by drinking 3 bottles of wine a day.
Nat666 rich42101
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Hi Rich, I do really feel for you and your girlfriend struggling with this destructive condition You have had some great replys here already.
Does your girlfriend want to get to grips with this ? If so I would urge you to look at the link on Adefree's reply and also google 'One little Pill' and look at Paul Turners youtube video. The process he describes really does work,so many of us on here have turned our lives around with following TSM .
Keep coming back and let us know how things go xx
RHGB
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Okay, just going back to your first reply (now knowing you are in the UK). Yes, most GPs will not get involved with alcohol problems, they don't see it as coming under their remit and the budget doesn't come to them - they are quite mercenary over money. At best, they would refer her to an ARC (addiction clinic) and by doing that, they have covered themselves.
I understand your feelings about ARCs, I went to two of them myself and the staff have no knowledge or understanding and are of a low calibre. Their standard advice seems to be, keep a drinks diary, to which I would say, I don't need a diary, I can tell you exactly what I've had.
As for not eating, the reason for this is, the carbs in alcohol are easy for the body to grab, so it always goes for those first. The downside of this is, that they are not getting vitamins and nutrients, only carbs. This is compounded by the fact that the very important vitamins (vit B) or water soluble and get flushed out, plus many heavy drinkers have gastritis (inflamation of the stomach lining) which impedes the absorption of them.When people don't get these vitamins, they can start to have short term memory loss and have trouble concentrating. Long term it gets worse, but people who drink heavily have no appetite.
Now, the reason she continues to drink, is not that she is lazy or feckless. The alcohol has changed her neural pathways and receptors. A drug has done that (alcohol) and a drug (medication) is needed to undo the changes that have occurred.
There are two main types of medications that work in slightly different ways, but have the same effect of relinquishing this hold alcohol has. There are two small obstacles, but in the grand scheme of things, they are worth overcoming. One, people have to want to give up, somebody helping them is immense benefit, but they do have to want to. Quite often with people there is a triggering point that gives them the spark. The second, is that the medication would need to come through the ARc (addiction centre) and all that is rquired there, is the ability of when someone says 'the computer says no', you can go, I know my rights under the NHS and I am entitled to see the doctor - the only thing they will (and can) insist on is that your partner has a blood test prior to seeing the doctor.
If you want to go down this route, Joanna and I can help advise you, myself having had the experience of having been through two and obtained the medication and Joanna knows all the legal, rights and what stuff to print off and put in front of them. If you think you want to go down that route, then we can discuss the two medications and which one you feel may be best suited.
sue74716 RHGB
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ADEfree rich42101
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Sounds like she isn't getting effective treatment for the OCD and anxiety? It's a tough go, but you might be able to get her interested in The Sinclair Method, best to talk to her about it when she's sober if at all possible:
https://patient.info/forums/discuss/useful-resources-487627
Scroll down the page and you'll see the topic.
You can also search the net for:
Claudia Christian TEDx talk
That should bring up some videos of a talk at the London Business School.
That being said, Nalmefene is available on NHS, but each area is different about what has to be done to get the prescription. C3 Europe might be able to help you navigate the maze for your particular area. It will most likely start driving the drinking in the other direction, as it's approved for drinking reduction and seems to do just that.
Getting someone to quit drinking or throttle back when there's a mental health issue that's powering the drinking is a tough go. The one tends to make the other worse and the whole thing snowballs as it rolls towards an unfortunate end. The Sinclair Method can help with the drinking, but the drinking is a comfortable blanket for the other issues and when that starts getting taken away, she could need more effective support for those issues.
Is she going to any support groups for the mental problems?
ADEfree rich42101
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Alternately, there's detox and then Acamprosate, which might be a good strategy too. RHGB is well-versed in how that's used and has found it very useful for warding off the bottle.
Robin2015 rich42101
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