I have been drinking hard for 35 yrs

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I recently just got out of jail again. They started me on 50 mg of Librium and I feel relaxed with little anxiety or urge to drink. I had read the post that if you use the Sinclair method that I could drink normally without any addiction? Now how would that work with someone like me who drank to get plasters? I can't stop after my first on3. Please help desperate!

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    In a simple format, nalterxone or nalfemene, dulls the srinking senses slightly, so it gives you a little more control over what you drink and your mind's mental need for it.

    Like all medication, you half to work with it, it is not a magic pill.

    Who has given you the librium and I take it you had blood tests, if yes, what were the results of those?

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    The Sinclair Method has been shown to be effective in all types of drinkers, from bingers to regular drinkers to heavy drinkers etc.  It is even used by some as a way to prevent sliding into problems, most especially if they have some form of alcohol use disorder in their family.

    However, it is NOT a magic pill.  It is really important to understand your part in the deal.

    Firstly, you MUST take the pill the required time before drinking EVERY time you drink.  If not, then you will find that you start getting the rush of the alcohol occasionally and so are more likely to stop the method at some point.

    Secondly, you MUST listen to your brain whilst on the method.  By that I mean that with the endorphin rush of the alcohol blocked, your brain will (at some point) give you the message that you feel satisfied and have no compulsion to continue for that drinking occasion.

    When that happens you MUST hear the signal, stop drinking and be done for that drinking occasion.

    If you take the pill but slam the drink back and refuse to listen for that satisfied message then you will still overdrink and soon, because we tend to make less informed decisions when we drink, you will stop the method.

    The Sinclair Method reverses the brain back to de-addiction over the course of some months, and then you must still take the pill prior to drinking for the rest of your life (when/if you chose to drink) otherwise the brain will relearn the addiction over again.  But you must decide that you want to work with it.

     

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      Hi Joanna,

      Just to say I'd never heard of the Sinclair Method before dipping into this forum a few weeks ago. I've since done a lot of reading on the subject and I have to say I've been blown away by the simplicity, humanity and sheer elegance of this system. It just seems a pity that it's not more widely known.

      A former nurse, I now volunteer in a mental health centre in a continental European country. We don't specialise in alcohol problems, but at least half of our clients are affected by substance abuse of one kind or another, like so many psychiatric patients. We volunteers get regular additional training sessions on all kinds of topics and we've been well briefed on various methods of approaching alcoholism, including the usual anti-craving drug (which I won't mention here as there's probably an embargo on it for the moment, following an attempt by someone at promoting a book last week!) However, no one has ever mentioned Sinclair, and I find this puzzling.

      A quick search turned up references to the method in five European languages, so it's obviously well known over here. I also discovered that naltrexone has recently been approved for GP prescription in my country, which is encouraging.

      As a volunteer, I'm not authorised to raise this topic with clients of course - unless they bring it up first - but I certainly intend to make enquiries among the professional staff as to how widespread use of the method is.

      Keep up the good work!

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      Thank you SO much, Lily.  That means a lot to me.

      I will PM you because it is very interesting what you mentioned about a GP being authorised to prescribe naltrexone.  I would like to look further into this, to see if I can somehow help raise the awareness of this.

      x

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      "including the usual anti-craving drug (which I won't mention here as there's probably an embargo on it for the moment, following an attempt by someone at promoting a book last week!)"

      There's no embargo on mentioning any drugs here. The forum members (most of the regulars are quite au fait with all the options, because our life has taken us down that route) don't take kindly to someone supposedly offering advice and then saying, buy my book, it is available on a site named after a big river and it is called 'XYZ'.

      I don't think the mods like people trying to profiteer out of the forum either.

      Most of the talk centres around:

      acamprosate

      naltrexone

      nalmefene

      disulfiram (not many use this)

      Plus benzos for detox.

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      Well said RHGB!

      agree there's no embargo on mentioning any drugs on this forum. I don't like the idea of someone promoting a book they've written, on the pretext of giving advice.

      I did read the free chapter, it was nothing to write home about, and nothing I didn't already know,

      No new drugs, just the same ones mentioned day in and day out here. Hardly earth shattering new treatments!!

       

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      Quite agree with the book-promotion thing. If you recall, I politely warned the person about it before the entire thread got deleted.

      Over on the Sjogren's syndrome forum, where I normally hang out, we had an incident just a couple of weeks ago where someone tried to promote a book. As a result, an entire sub-thread was deleted and the moderator very politely told us we weren't allowed to discuss the subject at all for the time being as he considered it too sensitive. It wasn't even all that controversial - just the current theory (accepted by a lot of mainstream doctors) that auto-immune conditions might be caused by an abnormality of the gut wall. In my post to Joanna I wanted to mention in passing the drug beginning with a B, but didn't want to be responsible for getting yet another thread deleted!

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      Hi Lily/all,

      To clarify: there is no problem mentioning baclofen. The other discussion was deleted as it was posted by a user posting around the forum that it is the only treatment and trying to promote it as such. The discussion also went off topic. This is also the reason the sub discussion in Sjogren's was deleted as I explained before I deleted it.

      Regarding the book - there is a post about it in the Useful resources pinned discussion. I did ask someone with more knowledge to check it before I allowed the post and have since been in touch with the author to stop posting details in other discussions and have deleted all such posts.

      As I have posted many times, if anyone sees a suspicious post then use the "Report" link to draw it to my attention. If anyone has any queries about the forums there is an FAQ section linked at the bottom of the page or you can send me a Private Message at any time rather than posting in discussions. 

      Regards,

      Alan

       

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      Hi Alan,

      A big thank-you for taking the time to post this. Got it now. I hadn't realised that the poster you're referring to had been actively campaigning in that other forum.

      I'd wanted to mention baclofen in passing in my post to Joanna, but didn't want to be the one to get a very useful thread deleted by mentioning a forbidden word.

      Regards,

      Lily

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    The author of this book, are they alcoholic themselves? Just interested. I've written several posts regarding this drug and what it did for me. None of it positive, in fact a lot of it very negative and quite dangerous 
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