I’m exhausted and feel defeated by LS and alone in all this !

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I've tried to be positive, I'm doing everything i can - personal hygiene, laundry, wardrobe change ( no trousers or knickers ) diet the list is endless and exhausting.

In October was finally given Ovestin for VA which i couldn't start until the LS was suppressed.

A delay in starting due to a bout of Thrush ( 2 fluconazol tabs to clear ) eventually started and it seemed to have positive results immediately until Thrush came back. My wonderful husband went to the Pharmacist and discussed the issue - more fluconazol, try to get balance right and see GP was the advice.

I have an LS review booked with GP next Monday anyway and took another fluconazol on Saturday, didn't do my Ovestin on Sunday ( read somewhere Thrush thrives on Estrogen?)

Did DERMOVATE as usual on Monday ( twice weekly) tried to tail back the moisturising a bit to make the environment less attractive to Thrush but starting to feel sore but CETRABEN OINTMENT( my usual ) seems to burn now, tried EMU OIL that was the same.

It's causing a strain on my marriage now - I'm constantly tearful, defeated and dont know what to do for the best .

My GP's attitude to date is sympathetic but very much in the great scheme of things LS isn't that bad most women just get on with it.

I'm trying to see it that way but its always on my mind like I have two trains of thought running consistently I cant say I'm in pain but always uncomfortable or distracted to a degree.

I resumed Ovestin last night - I'm out of ideas, constantly checking my vulva for whiteness, redness, type of discharge - its becoming all consuming.

I don't want to go back on AMYTRIPTELENE which I'm guessing my GP will say whilst it works to a degree it just seems to mask the problem.

Today i feel burning and sore and irritated although visibly only slightly pinker and tearful.

I thought being on top of LS would mean maintenance and stopping the progression of the disease not being in permanent discomfort regardless - how naive i was.

Any suggestions welcome.

8 months on from diagnosis with biopsy.

THANK YOU X

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  • Posted

    Really feel for you. LS can certainly take over your mind and become all-consuming.

    Can you not up your dermovate applications to every day? I was told by GP to use steroid everyday again whenever things got bad, slackening off when it calmed again. Also I know that if I miss oestrogen applications for a week or so I feel more irritation so religiously stick to 3 times a week. Have you tried Borax soaks to soothe things? I find it neutralises irritation and softens the skin especially when I have perhaps overdone other moisturisers - it's a good way of 're-starting' your self care.

    Don't despair, I am sure you will find a regime that suits you eventually and try not to examine yourself too often as that's a sure fire way to worry yourself more and stress is not good as we all know.

    • Posted

      Thank you for your reply - I've taken some 'time out' to re-group and re focus.

      Finding a tolerence level for estrogen is proving tricky - we are now going to try half the dose twice a week.

      Your advice is always appreciated. X

  • Posted

    Have you used the appointment called Clob? It has to be the ointment and not the cream! It has nothing to do with hygiene, clothes, toilet paper, anything, it is just bad luck! trust me when I tell you we all feel for you and we know what you are going through. I don’t know where you are but I am in the United States and my gynecologist is the only one that is able to know and take care of what is going on with this lichen sclerosus. Don’t depend upon a regular physician. You need to have your gynecologist And make sure he does a biopsy to make sure that this is really what it is. Just continue to reach out to everyone because we are here to listen to you and respond.

  • Posted

    Sarah,

    you sound like me 4 mos ago! and even to this day, there is often that "alternate brain feed" going on in my head!

    1. i think some people have a combined anti fungal and steroid ointment. my derm gave me a separate tube if nystatin to use at the first hint of yeast. works for me.
    2. my derm suggested i take a good probiotic for both yeast and uti...i think it helps. i said what is a "good" probiotic. she said any capsule that doesnt need to be refrigerated.
    3. the other thing is that i now do tacrolimus as well as steroid. this has really stabilized everything. you might as your doc about it.
    4. i think you should have a dermatologist to help with this. it is, fundamentally, a skin disease.

    deeep breath!!! oh...do you take baths. even plain water bath helps!

    • Posted

      Thank you for your continued words of wisdom !

      As you say deep breath and keep going.

      GP was positive and we have a Thrush Management Action Plan at the ready - for next time.

      Will look into best probiotics and try to de rail the LS train of thought - apart from Dermovate days.

      Good luck to you too. X

  • Posted

    After I developed a reaction to Clob, a gynecologist prescribed a clotrimazole/dexamethasone cream, which cleared the white patches and the irritation in 2 weeks. So, you can ask for that. It is both an antifungal and a steroid in one tube. I also found a vaginal antibiotic/antifungal treatment (the French medication Polygynax) very helpful. Currently on Protopic (Tacrolimus). For yeast or UTIs , try drinking cranberry juice, or take cranberry pills. Oregano capsules are helpful, too. Beta glucans for immune system. It is a terrible disease, but it can be managed, and some people do get cured, at least according to some Pubmed articles.

    • Posted

      Thank you for your advice - will look into the probiotics and get back into the positive frame of mind that seems to have got lost - temporarily !

  • Posted

    sarah, I use hormone cream nightly ( because of atrophy). Low estrogen, according to the gyn, caused my LS. Initially the hormone cream caused soreness, but using a small amount of nystatin with it solves the problem.

    Before I was diagnosed with LS I was experiencing a fleeting inner vag itch. The gyn said I had LS not an infection, however, I did insist on a prescription for Flagyl because I was denied it 20 years ago when I had a raging infection that lasted 5 years (so I know about discomfort). That earlier gyn prescribed everything under the sun instead of the one medication I wanted ( it had worked for me when I was younger).

    After my LS diagnosis (1 1/2 yrs ago) the Flagyl quelled the itch with the 1st pill, but a very low key occasional itch & sometimes odor remained. I tried rinsing each night with warm water & a small amount of baking soda (my idea). That along with using the small amount of nystatin ointment with the hormone cream (the gyn's suggestion) seemed to have gotten both issues under control. I rarely use the rinse now but always add the nystatin to the hormone cream.

    It sounds as though your problem is anxiety which can exacerbate any issue. I would work on doing whatever is necessary to control it or you will be in a constant negative loop. Unlike you I have to remind myself to check in the mirror. I'm not happy about having LS and continue to research any possible treatments, but it is certainly not something that is always on my mind. If you don't like the effects of amytripteline then ask for another med for anxiety. But if you think calming anxiety is "masking" the LS problem I think you need to reconsider what problems the anxiety is causing.

    Best of luck.

    • Posted

      Thank you - your reply was thought provoking.

      Took the weekend to re-group and take stock of the positives.

      The Estrogen is causing soreness as well as other problems headaches,sinus pain, and dry mouth and disturbed sleep but it is helping with the atrophy so after a positive consultation with GP who now realises that I really am hypersensitive we are reducing the dose by half - hopefully that will help.

      When I took Amytriptelene i had to use half the minimum dose.

      My Dermovate application was lower than recommended because it burned like hell and had to be increased very slowly - its now fine. Even plain water in the shower would hurt my skin until the LS was diagnosed and i had to use emolliant to wash with which has proved invaluable.

      In general (apart from vulva !) my skin has never been as good with the diet changes, moisturising and ditching soap but its flipping hard work !

      Think positive - my new mantra !

      THANKS

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