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I have been diabetic for 15 years now, apparently due to giving birth 35 years earlier. Last summer my sugar levels on occasion went up to double figures then be for Xmas they have stayed their, doctor's answer more tablets, was told that exercise diet and tablets sometimes stop working. And need insulin, well I am desperate now, before breakfast up to bedtime my range is from 10 to 19 and I know these are dangerous range, they got me an appointment at hospital to see diabetic dept in June.. I need help now, today I going see doctors and insist they put me on insulin am I right?

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    Hi Bethia, it's really important that you take good care of yourself. I care for my mother, who had diabetes. I keep her on a very strict diet, paleo, and gluten free, with as much exercise as she can do, and it's really important that I keep her fluid intake up.

    There is a belief that quality of life includes eating deserts and pasta. But I can tell you, that no amount of food can compensate for all the pricking, needles, bloodwork and time required to manage this disease. Better to let go of the denial and realize that your body can't handle foods that spike your glucose levels and be on a super strict diet and exercise regime.  Yes, this takes tons of time and effort, especially attitude, because you have to figure out a whole new way to shop, cook, and eat. If you prepare food for a family, that, of course, makes it more difficult.

    There are also a variety of natural teas and herbs that can help stabilize blood sugar along with diet and exercise. I can tell you that the best gift I've ever given my mother was the last year of her life, free of the bonds of diabetes testing, along with amazing, home cooked healthy, organic meals. It's been a year and we're still vary careful with her sugar intake, no processed foods, no gluten products whatsoever. But she's able to eat fruits, ice cream and even some treats without medication.

     

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      Up date ...its not me, not my exercises not my diet, not no carbs in fact I got top marks

      Its my pancreas its not doing what it is suppose to do and I have to go on insulin to get it started again.apparently I was told I would eventually go on insulin but I forgot as it was over 12 years ago. Well I did everything one could do. But like he said after a time some diabetic pancreas don't work like the supported to after a time, seems I'm one of them

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      Oh Bethia, I'm sorry. I found herbs to be helpful for my mom. She was on full insulin after diabetic ketoacidosis. The docs said she'd never be off meds and probably never get off insulin. I encourage you to have hope, do some research and try things. I've seen people selling a bunch of herb systems. I'd stay away from the stuff with tons of marketing. I did some research for my mom and found boron and chromium to be particularly helpful in preventing diabetes, dandelion, white kidney bean extract, berberine, and citrus bergamot to be helpful as supplements. 

      Dont know now if this is helpful at all. I hope so.

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      I don't know if it is helpful or not either but I will try anything if their is a glimmer of hope, thank you I will try it

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      Don't give up. There's tons of stuff online. You might even want to try acupuncture, traditional Chinese medicine, naturopathy or homepathy.

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    I would be very surprised if your GP put you onto insulin before you've seen the hospital consultant so you may have to wait until then. I am 71 and have had diabetes for the last 22 years.   When I was diagnosed I was put on tablets for the first eight years but was eventually went onto insulin, firstly the long acting Lantus then a combination of quick insulin and the Lantus, then another quick insulin until finally I am on three injections of Novorapid after meals and Lantus at night.  Although I still have some high sugar levels, mainly I think because the Lantus wears off before the next one is due but sometimes also because I've eaten the "wrong" thing but I have to say that since I went onto insulin I have been able to control my sugar levels far better than when I was just on tablets.  Speaking of tablets, I was on Metformin for nearly all of the years since diagnosis even though I wasn't overweight and have never been overweight.  Metformin is an appetite suppressant which is why I never had a good appetite but I decided to stop taking it for a couple of weeks and it was miraculous, my appetite came back and I actually had hunger pains, something I hadn't felt for years.  The problem with Metformin is that it is known to cause Vitamin B12 deficiency and last year I felt very tired and my B12 was so low that I had to have a course of injections to boost it back up. I have now been taken off Metformin and feel much better and only take a statin and the insulin. 

    My advice is that if you want to go onto insulin you should ask to be put on it as you will find that after a while your sugar levels settle down to normal, although it's hit and miss to begin with before you get the dose right. Having said that I adjust my dose of Novorapid according to what I've eaten and what my pre-meal sugar levels are which means if I eat something that's bad for me I can give myself a little bit more insulin to compensate for it which you can't do when you're just on tablets. You have to be careful that you don't give yourself too much and have hypos as my diabetes nurse has always been more concerned about the lows than the highs.   I think if you go onto insulin you will have much better sugar levels and as long as you test regularly (I keep another testing kit in my handbag whenever I'm out) and carry glucose and a mousli bar if my levels go low so apart from that it shouldn't affect your day to day life too much. Hope this helps.

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      Morning spindles, thank you for your information it has helped me more than you could know and ended a lot of my worrying, I don't want to go on insulin but don't have any option as my pancus is stopped working and doing what it is supposed to do, the hospital Is going to try to move my appointment forward for me as I was getting in a tizz I also got told off for starving myself. It was just that my sugars were and still are in double numbers and I got to a point where I was getting to scared to eat because if I was 15.2 before breakfast 12 before dinner I only would have a bowl of soup for my evening meal thinking not eating then my sugar would be low, I would do a 2 miles walk 4 times a day, get on exercise bike, go shopping, housework and possibly washing so by evening meal it will be low.... No it was 19 and all I ate after my daily grind was a bowl of soup. I was in panic mode nothing was working no more after 15 years of tablets exercise and diet ...

      The hospital said the sooner I'm on insulin the better, and told me to eat and not worry about the sugar levels as I would be quite safe but did say if I pass urine more or got very thirsty I have to go to doctor now I am waiting for hospital appointment to come through, its just insulin scares me a little its going into the unknown, but your information has put my mind at rest and I am trying to eat breakfast and lunch again even if its smaller then a child's portion, still doing all my exercise mind

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    Hi bethia59893,

    I can't add too much to this, and there's been plenty of good advice already given.

    But just to say - it sounds like your general approach was already under control (diet, exercise etc.), and it sounds like you're experienced in dealing with your condition over a number of years.  So something else has changed !

    Some thing which MtViewCatherine touched upon was Gluten, and that could be significant.

    A large percentage of Coeliac sufferers are undiagnosed, and it can cause blood sugar levels to go out of control (up and down).  So, it might be worth exploring, and trying a sustained period on a Gluten free diet, and see if that improves things.  Just a thought.

    Dairy intolerance is another issue, but I'm not sure if that causes blood sugars to go out of control ?

     

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    I find it odd that doctors recommend insulin to someone who is type 2 (insulin resistant) it's not lack of insulin that is the problem.

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      Hi Citalo, I have to agree with you on medicating with insulin tontreat insulin resistance. However, I can assure you that insulin IS prescribed for type II. In helping my mom, it appears that insulin is used for more severe cases. For example, a half cup of juice would send her blood sugar to 400 in the weeks following her diabetic ketoacedosis hospitalization. Once I had her diet controlled, well, it got a lit better. 

      I also used some herbs: berberine, citrus bergamont, and white kidney bean extract while weaning her off the meds. Eventually, (after a surprisingly short time, she didn't even need to herbs.

      Bethia, in my mother's case, they also told me "not to worry" about things. I'm thinking, what!? Ok, right, worrying isn't helpful, but, ignoring the seriousness of the problem is very detrimental, as diabetes complications are horrible. 

      Spindles, thanks for the info on the B12 deficiency with the metformin. I'll give mom extra Bs for a while.

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      Well I have a hospital appointment on 28th its in their hands as they are up on this I am in agreement with them due to the fact medication diet and exercise has no effect on me no more, type 2 do end up on insulin if your pancreas is no longer in good working order and not doing what its ment to I was told over 15 years ago type 2 sometimes end up on insulin as they are qualified in this field I think they. Are more than experience to help me as I don't want complications or death I will go with them

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      Bethia, please keep in mind that there are protocols that get followed and that many of these protocols have more to do with legalities and hospital convenience than patient treatment. I don't know what. It's like in England, but in the US, I've found its common practice to admit patients to hospital and monitor by computer with infrequent clinical examinations. My experience has been so bad when I've taken my mother for emergency treatment, that unless it's something that needs stitches, I keep her at home because I can give her better care, better food, more individual care. 

      My my point us that I'm sure you're frustrated, but please do continue to empower yourself, advocate for yourself,mand search for creative solutions that work for YOU. 

      One thing that comes to mind with my mother, that could be related, is she was on many medications that cause kidney and liver toxicity. Thus toxicity may have contributed to her health problems. Because of her age and fragility, she is unable to tolerate anything other than herbs for cleansing. However, I wish she were able to tolerate more aggressive liver cleansing, as I feel it would have helped her overall health greatly. Keep in mind, both the liver and kidneys (as well as the pancreas) are involved in sugar metabolism.

      Just something to think about. I hope you're able to sort things out and get back to feeling well soon.

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    Well the answer will depend on the doctor’s suggestion. However, medications can sometimes stop working when the case become severe, it will be cool if you opt in for other supplements such as moringa, although it is not a cure for diabetes, however, it can provide immense help.

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    The guest, 15 years is a long period of time, I cannot understand how did you live on tablets all this time? I am a diabetic with 10 years experience and I don’t believe in all sorts of diets, exercises, teas and pills, herbs. In order to understand whether you need insulin,  consult a few highly qualified specialists, and then, if necessary, I advise you to switch insulin, as I have done several years ago. I chose insulin on this site, because here is a huge choice and all products are original. If you suddenly worry that acupuncture is not convenient, you can buy a special needle, which greatly simplifies life, plus it can be stabbed in any situation (on walks, on travels)

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    Switching your diet to green vegetables and fruits makes your body alkaline. I have had one of my uncle who was diabetic. Switching his diet and taking some sudarshan chakra helps in diabetes

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