I'm tired of life, with little reason, not dramatic - just 'done'...

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I'm not even sure I have depression, I think this may just be 'me'.

I have always been pretty useless socially, but have had a normal upbringing, no horrible experiences, have gone through education fine and even got jobs but I've never enjoyed life, never really cared and normally feel like I'm not really worth anything and, inevitably enventually, will become a burden.

I'm not going to be dramatic and say I'm going to end it, it sounds so pathetic (no offence intended to anyone) but I have thoughts of 'going' or even dreams that I could die 'blamelessly' thorugh accident or illness. Selfish I know.

I have a cycle. Get job, put on confident easy going persona, get physically tired from doing that, lose energy to maintain job, focus on negative, leave job in some form (fired/quit). Friends are much the same, play easy going fun, can't keep it up, lose or push them away. Relationships, get attracted to ones who need help, help them in anyway I can, get to a point where I feel I am no more use so should go as they'd be ultimately better off.

So, currently I've quit my job as a teacher, couldn't take it - always something to improve and with my way of thinking that just sounds like constantly someone telling you you're useless (and it backing up your own thoughts anyway) but even though I liked aspects of my job I don't think I had a passion like I see in others. I felt I'd let everyone down so disappeared, my partner/ parents got me through immediate days after my sudden departure from work and saw Doc who was nice enough - put me on medication which seemed to do very little - even after a few months. In fact it only had negative side effects so about three weeks ago I stopped taking them completely. I also started seeing a CBT person about three/four session ago but this feels like it's doing nothing at all either, we talk, I'm honest as I can be but there is some element of being 'public' and putting on that face/ jokey responses.

I dip between a wish to not be around that is forever there and seems to be backed up with wholly logical reasons that people genuinely struggle to refute to absolutely crashing panic attacks/ given up when my 'theories' are proved.

I know this sounds odd, but I don't even have the will to get 'better', largely because I don't think I can. I am just 'me'. I am negative, boring and even if it is all just selffullfillng profecies - it's still me who has done that. I'm not blaming life, or others or anything else.

A lot of the posts I read on here seem to have good reason; PTS, loss, finances etc - does anyone have no 'good' reason?

I just feel I'm never going to be happy, I am soon to be much a burden on those around me (my gf) and that, in the long run, it'd be better for all if I just went. I know my family and gf love me - but time heals, life would get better and people move on. In the long run I'm sure it wouldn't effect my family and 100% sure my gf would be better off.

Not sure if there is an answer for this, just writing. I'm not angry, I'm not hurt, I'm not even sad as such, I'm just tired...

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    So nice to know that I am not the only one with these feelings. I am 28 Indian Male working in Canada. I feel tired of life all the time. I never feel happy and always find negative in everything. I just want to go to sleep forever. I have been having these mood swings since I was 10-12 year old even though i had no major issues/problems in my life.

    I don't think anything can fix this but there are a few things I did and helped me a little. I consistently work out. Cardio activities especially running helped a lot in getting rid of that frustration and get a better sleep. I recently started writing some blogs and stuff just to pass some time.

    There were times when things were really bad and i had no other option but to talk to my friend and pour my heart out. I am lucky enough to have one such friend. Some words of encouragement from someone you respect and value can come a long way in easing the pain.

    I listen to a lot motivational/inspirational videos on youtube. It is like a daily dose of pill for me. It does help me believe that even though  life is not fun and seems hard there is always hope.

    I won't say this got rid of the mood swings but the mood swings are less frequent now, i haven't had a cigarette for over 2.5 years. I switched to a better paying job. I am healthier and all the workouts gave me a good physique wink

    Unlike the normal advise that we get about going out with friends, meet new people etc. didn't work because i am kind of introvert (guessing most of us are wink) and it takes me sometime to become friends with someone i don't know.

     

    • Posted

      Sorry for the delay replying to your post, I have been away. One sure way of feeling better is escaping the reality of your being, if only it didn't make the return so much harder!

      Everything you say actually seems quite positive, which obviously is a good thing. You have found what at least helps you manage your symptoms, I suppose your next step is to see if there is any hope of resolving the issues that cause the symptoms. But, like me, maybe they aren't resolvable and are just 'you'.

      You're healthy, in a better paid job, looking good and have a friend who you can talk to freely. When I have any one of those I'll see if they helped wink Health is ok, but have always been of the skinny frame regardless of what I do, I don't have a job has can't keep up the right frame of mind so leave before I collapse, and definitely have no friends to share this with. Well, I have no friends so that kinda says it all!

      Anywho, I'm glad you seem to be managing quite well and controlling your mood. Canada sounds fun, if cold, and always think it shows an element of bravery to live and work abroad (I assume that's what you meant by saying Indian in Canada rather from Canada). Thanks for your message anyway.

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    I think i know how you feel... growing up i was always the smallest, the weakest, the least tallented, the one everyone had to slow down for just to keep up. I felt absolutely useless like nobody needed me and I thought that if i just weren't there that maybe everyone would be able to continue and succede at what they wanted to do without having to worry about me. After i realized these thoughts, i fell into a depression. Honestly i didn't even feel depressed. Not angry, not sad, not alone, just helpless and dissapointed in myself... I didn't want to die necessarily, nor did I want to live. i just didn't want to have to exist. After I finally made the decission to follow through with the former I was suddenly thrown into an array of situations that I couldn't leave unsettled, and because of that I had to force myself to get over my problems. If i was expendable, I told myself, then maybe I could at least be of some use. None of the situations have been resolved yet I've found that by helping them, I was able to help myself become the person who could help others, the kind of person I'd grown up both admiring and cursing. If you want to contribute to other people then first you have to help yourself. Find something within you worth saving and force yourself to do something, even if you're ready to collapse. Eventually You will find something in life worth hanging on to and equally as dependant as you. and Your family and girlfriend all love and treasure you. My father and grandfather were estranged during my grandfather's death and everyone involved regreted the separation afterwards. You can't afford to accept things as less than acceptable. because everything in life is worth you. and you are woth it.
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      Thanks for your message. I'm glad you have found some way of helping yourself.

      However, it's a common theme: help yourself by helping others. Most people would say I do that TOO much. I will help others endlessly to the detriment of myself as I value anyone's progress above my own. I have given up things for myself to help a near stranger succeed above me. Especially at work, I often actively passed praise on to others or accepted blame that was not mine to save them. It's actually quite harmful if you think about it as it just helps fulfill a belief you have about yourself.

      Helping others hasn't helped me. I still do it too, not like I've given up with that tact as it is ingrained in to my personality. But it doesn't make me feel better about myself, it doesn't make others think better of me (I'm almost invisible) and, despite continuing with quite altruistic actions, I firmly believe there is no justice - the good don't get rewarded and the bad don't get punished. I actually think being nice is BAD for me.

      In fact I believe the happy successful people in life are, by and large, the ones who don't dwell on the views of others either negative or positive and just take and use as they see fit to progress. That can be in a postive, go getter super confident way or it can be in a negative stab people in the back kind of way. However being focused on yourself and being selfish is by far the best way of succeeding in this world.

      I'm going to stop there. I think you've caught me on a bad day. I didn't realise it, but maybe I'm feeling worse today than I thought - I knew I was irritable and this message has just proved it!

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      Hi I think helping others is admirable and can help you learn about yourself and other people.  But if carried to extremes can be a way of avoiding thinking about and dealing with your own problems.  As you have said this doesn't work.

      Being nice is good but there are limits you need to impose.  You need to spend some time being selfish and looking after yourself.  It doesn't make you a not nice person but does mean you will get more of what you want to in life. 

      In my experience most people will take advantage of nice people and can end up treating you like a doormat and are not grateful,  often they are quite the reverse. 

      Draw up limits to helping others and learn to say no.  It will feel wrong to you but it is actually right for you.   We all need to look after ourselves in life coz no one else is going to do it for you are they?  Decide what you are willing to do and what you won't do.   I would always help someone at work for example and have done but would draw the line at taking the blame for them or jeopardising your own career or happiness.   Find the line and draw it.  x 

       

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      haha i guess it probably isn't exactly the healthiest of habbits, and basically everything you stated is true, but it works well enough for me i suppose. i hope you get to feeling better and i think that its very noble of you to take the actions that you do. I agree with both you and hypercat. I try to be kind to kind people and not so kind to not so kind people. a kind of physical karma i suppose. after all, if you dont take care of yourself then you cant take care of others.
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    Belief me live does not get better because someone chooses that life is not for them. You have said youself you have friends and family that care and love you..It,s not easy to sit here and say. I have felt like this on too many occasions, but because I have personally witnessed and experienced the aftermath 3x of such an action there is no way I would, or could do that to my loved ones. Please ask for help from the mental health team through your G.P. There is help out there. jx
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      I will caveat the following by saying I am currently not close to taking any 'action', although I'd be lying if I said it wasn't always in the background, like a craving it's sometimes stronger than other times...

      Anyway, this might sound very messed up, and I even recognise this, but I know a part of my seclusion from the world is to avoid unnecessary pain for others through any decent human's response to loss. I'm not stupid enough to think people wouldn't care, I just think they shouldn't. I also feel that people are sad about a strangers death, you can't be sad about something you don't know though...

      My old friends know not where I am, haven't heard from me in years, and I will be nothing but a memory for them now. So if I were to 'disappear permanently' it wouldn't effect them. This has been part of my thinking. It genuinely means that all those thoughts that go through my head are tempered by evaluating how I could cause the least (zero) pain to those I know, or even strangers - I'd never do the train thing, I think that is selfish. There are ways without inflicting it upon others (which I won't go in to for any ideas for people who are closer than I am at the moment!)

      I tried the medical route after twenty years of dealing with it myself, that too didn't work. I try not to think about it at the moment, because every time I do, I feel there is no hope.

      I'm ok at the moment, the problem comes when work starts for my other half again and I'll be left thinking. Thinking is never good!

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      Hi it's fine to keep suicide on the back burner so to speak.   I have always done this when I managed to change my life and give myself a chance to make it how I wanted.   The background thought is well I can always take the suicide option if I want can't I?  The secret is to avoid it and put it off.  I have put it off indefinitely and will never say never but I am 61 now and have made a good life for myself - enough that I have managed to avoid suicide for many years.  

      Every so often I weight up my options and decide do I want to carry on or do I take the get out of jail card.   Even if I decide on the latter I decide I won't do it that day but maybe tomorrow.  Tomorrow comes and I go ok made it so far will think again about it tomorrow.   Eventually it fades into the background again.  

      I find it very comforting to have that option as it gives me peace of mind and control over my own life.   If life gets really bad and I do it ok I bought myself many years and now it's time.   

      You have got to give yourself chances first and explore everything and try everything else before you decide to give up.   x

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      That,s really pleasing to hear..I know that just because people have thoughts regarding suicide, sometimes frequently I might add. This does not increase the risk. ..I can see the point of the seclusion bit, and wanting to push people away because the impact of whatever would be less severe.. Been there, done that, then realised how absurd that was. However I still refuse to go out and avoid people at all costs, so maybe not that absurd at all..jx
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      Is it absurd?! I say with a smile, but to me it is all so logical! I have this half-running joke that "my logical is undeniable" as in the quote from I-Robot where there is a robot who wants to stop humans from harming themselves by denying them all freedoms and choices. Really the logic is undeniable! If no-one knows me, and that group gets smaller every year, then inevitably eventually I will just be able to disappear without anyone being the wiser. No-one will know, no-one will care. I will acheived my goal of just fading rather than shocking anyone or forcing them to respond in a way, you'd hope, all humans respond to the loss of someone they know.

      If you lose time and time again at chess, and you hate the game as well, do you carry on playing?

    • Posted

      Hope this does not insult you,,,but you are one of the most intelligent people that I have come across...admittedly I am. a hide behing the door kinda person lol..Seriously the little part that I know of you ( please dont be offended) reminds me so much of King George (as in the madness of King George) yet an up to date Stephen Fry.......Yes I do regarding the chess..Take care jx
    • Posted

      Ha, no it doesn't insult me! You're wrong, but it doesn't insult me wink

      To be fair, I have not really had to work at intellectual things, they kind of just make sense or I research everything the nth degree until they do but I wouldn't class myself as clever! It seems impossible to do so when one can't even speak to someone without stumbling over words or stressing or completely losing all grip on what I meant to say!

      Although the madness part of King George I might be close to. Stephen Fry is an idol of mine, and someone I watch closely for obvious link in the field of mental health but if he's Premier League I'd barely count as a part time player!

      Thanks anyway :D

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      Damn I so wanted you to be like King George...I suppose I could settle for Stephen Fry....well I personally believe that you belong in the Premier League......I too Idolise Stephen Fry ..

      Pleased that no insult was taken....It,s ok I almost always get it wrong lol jx

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    Dear rsjg,

    Firstly I would just like to enquire after your relative health and whether you are still alive or not. Sorry if this sounds callous, but it is a mental health site after all and I have a terribly dark sense of humour!! I do so hope you are still alive, even though I realise you find this 'living stuff' all a bit pointless, which I can definitely relate to at this point in my life.

    Anyway, my initial reason for contacting you, other than that I think you are a very thoughtful and articulate person, albeit one prone to depression and excessive rumination as I am, is that I am curious about your reasons for leaving the teaching profession. You see I have just had a terrible experience as a supply teacher in a British state high school, largely due to the execrable behaviour of this current generation of high school kids as well as the laughable 'discipline and support system' that currently operates in British high schools. I am from Australia originally, although I have taught English and Dance in various capacities in 5 countries now, but I have to say the behaviour I have seen in schools over here is the worst Ive seen ANYWHERE!!! Have you read 'You're wasting your own time'??? (Written by a British ex teacher). Because in my experience it's all true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Yes so my long winded point being I wondered if part of the reason you left teaching was because of the hideous behaviour of the students here? Certainly if that was at all a factor, I also just wanted to say I dont blame you and nor do at least half the British teaching profession who eventually end up leaving for another field!

    To finish my own rant here, I'm still recouperating after the shattering experience I have just gone through... still very disorientated, still weighing upmy options but ABSOLUTELY DEFINITELY NEVER SETTING FOOT INSIDE A MIXED ABILITY STATE HIGH SCHOOL EVER AGAIN!!! They're worse than farm animals if you ask me!!! And I'm not bothered if that sounds elitist. It's the sad truth! The system has fallen apart such that it now just molly coddles and panders to the dysfunctional whilst it penalises any hard working kids in the school AND the staff!

    Ok, that's it from me. Have thought about topping myself after 7 yrs of wasted tertiary education but hey, maybe I'll just go and do what every other failed unemployed graduate does...start driving a cab!  

    This actually doesnt seem such a bad idea to me anymore. No more thuggish swearing brats to deal with, no more inept discipline procedures to endure, no OFSTED inspectors breathing down your neck,and no more stupid bureaucratic box ticking or paperwork to complete! It's a win win, as long as you can cope with the odd drunk babbling or toff twittering in your ear!

    Ahh well, such is this absurd thing we call life!

    Hope you sort yours out whilst I'm stumbling around trying to find mine! wink

     

    • Posted

      Still alive, well a bit tired but still class as alive, just wink

      I'm going to have to be brutally to the point, in the nicest way I can, and with that I'll have to make some assumptions that I apologise for completely if I'm wrong - it's what you have to do when responding with limited information!

      First, you obviously are at a very low point but you indicate this seems to be entirely in response to your work experience. That doesn't mean you're not depressed, far from it, but it does give you a relatively easy target to focus on to improve your overall well-being. If you were happy in work do you think you would be happy (as much as anyone is as they seek more!) with your life? If the answer is yes, then you need to focus on how to make either teaching, or any other career, work for you and your head.

      Teaching. Man, I could rant too! However, I would temper that by saying every school is WILDLY different. Just because one is awful doesn't mean all are. Inner city in this country tends to be a lot harder to teach, where as suburbs and rural areas can tend to go the other way and have very unrealistic pushy parents. State school is not your enemy though. I have taught in a lot of schools and you wouldn't believe how they can change from one side of the road to the other. Staff make a far bigger impact than children. I like to believe all children are inherently pleasant and want to achieve, the only thing that lets them down can be parents/environment, poorly organised schools and... yes stupid government policies! But this is largely a chat for TES site - head there if you've not before and you'll get a lot better answers to teaching issues than I can provide. I also worked primary and, by and large, my issue was always with staff who still act like they are on the playground as they know no world different from education and still think the popular, loud, bully kids are the ones who run the joint! I am often secluded because I'm male. However, again, I also recognise that it is also a large part of me that struggles to deal with things rather than letting it not effect me - basically what I'm saying is I personally feel my character is not really strong enough to deal with one of the most demanding professions in the world - especially in this country. Most of the public would laugh at that statement but they don't realise the daily abuse, work, stresses, observations, impossible targets etc - it is the most mentally challenging job out there and when you go home you still have work to do, none of this leaving it at the office, still got to plan and mark and assess. I know (knew) police officers, nurses, labourers, lawyers who all turned to teaching for holidays and the view working with kids was fun (which it can be) but then all returned to their orignal jobs when they realised the mental strain it puts on you and those around you. No-one should say it's easy til you've tried it - there is no other profession in Britain where you can be watched working and assessed on a weekly basis.

      But I try to tell me, and I'll tell you, that it doesn't make you a bad person if you can't cope in British schools. I wouldn't chastise a child for struggling in P.E. and it's the same thing, some of us are made to excel in some areas and underperform in others. If you think you are a good teacher elsewhere in the world (and on a side note all the people in this thread who are from x country but working on y country make me feel evern more useless - how cool and brave you all are!) then maybe it's a case of just finding the right school. If not, try something else I suppose. I am struggling to give you a good answer because this paragraph is one of my big daily mental battles.

      Again, from what I read, I think you might find more help from TES website to reslove teaching issues, that may then feed in to your general mental wellbeing.

      Good luck smile

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