I need some personal attention.

Is it possible for you to change back to the brand you had before. They are not all the same. They have different fillers in them to make the tablet bind together. I had a problem woth one that contained acacia powder.

thanks

yes i am gonna check my old medication. If i get so am sure ill get it.

Thank you so much for your support that’s really appreciated, the same condition is happened when I was using my old tablet but it happined only one time after using LEVOTHYROXINE with in a month its happined 5 to 6 times. I am really scare with this can you tell me that is it really danger for health?

Hi smsih, you're welcome. Yes, switching thyroid meds is horribly difficult for some people. Unfortunately, it takes a full three months for the meds to be fully effective, so if you adjust before that, you basically have to go by how you feel since your blood work lags behind.

As for the heart palpitations I got them frequently, but mild when my meds were too low. Anxiety is also a symptom of low thyroid, as is brain fog. Put the three together and you're pretty much a mess and can't think enough to sort things out for yourself.

First try asking your doctor to prescribe your name brand meds as before. If you are unable to switch back to your old meds and dose, you'll have to at least try the same dose as your old meds, so your are only changing one variable at a time. If neither of those solutions work for you, you may have to find a different medication or go to a compounded one.

In the meanwhile, do you feel the heart palpitations last a long time, or are you short of breath, or light-headed when the palpitations happen?

When I had palpitations they were frequently, for short time periods, and to me seemed like a momentary anxious feeling for a few seconds. So I never worried about them. 

You know your body. So you'll best be able to tell how uncomfortable you are.  Certainly, it isn't healthy to have your meds at the wrong dose for prolonged periods. But keep in mind it takes three months for the meds to level out.

Hope that helps.

catherine

Thank you so much

Now i got appointment for my doctor tomorrow so I'll go and discuss all the things

Let see what does he recommend, once again thanks 😊😊

Hye i went ti dr today and he gave me blood test and EKG.

Hi smsih, were you able to get a full thyroid panel done for your blood work?

Also, how did the EKG turn out? Let me guess, it was fine?  Well, hope so.

Glad you were able to get some help from your doctor.

Thank you so much,

My all labs result are normal even my TSH is 0.31 ulU/mL, ill go today for my EKG.

We're your T3 and T4 levels ok? 

Hi sorry for late reply my T4 result is 1.0 ng/dL.

Dr didn't give me T3 trst.

Yes smsih, of course the doc didn't run a full panel. This is unfortunately typical. You'll need to kearn to read your own lab tests. You can do an online search for ranges. For myself, I've found I need to have my ranges on the high end of normal.

Also, since you are on a relatively high dose, you certainly need the full thyroid panel run because you need to make sure both your T3 and T4 are in range. Levo is T4 only, so you generally get T4 high, and T3 low, resulting in low energy (due to low T3).  But the NDT has higher than normal human T3, so you get high T3 and low T4, which results in brain fog from the low T4. 

Your T4 looks low, but check the ranges for yourself. On the levo, T4 only, you rely on your body to convert to T3. If you have stomach problems (very typical in thyroid patients) you may not be converting well to T3. But, if your T4 levels are too low on the levo, your T3, will be really low, so you likely have both brain fog AND exhaustion.

 

Do you know both things happening with me, brain fog and exhaustion.

Tell me what happined when T3 and T4 is low ?

Hi smsih, 

1) Your meds are on the low side, and your symptoms support this, so you won't be able to think straight until you've increased them. It will take several weeks for the brain fog to go away, once you have the right dose.

2) levo contains a synthetic T4 thyroxin.  The body needs both T4 and T3, and converts T4 into T3 as needed. The gut cells and liver cells do much of the conversion. So if you have gut problems, you'll have low T3 on the levo.

3) The T4 lasts about two weeks in the body and is a weaker form of thyroxin, meaning it is less effective. I've noticed that when my T4 is low, I get horrible brain fog. Your T4 looks to be on the low end of normal. I find mine works best at the high end of normal range, or slightly above. A really good endocrinologist can work with you on this. Most doctors don't have a clue.

4) since your T4 is low, your T3 will also be low, even if your body is converting properly.

5) The T3 only lasts about 4 hours in the body, but is about 20 times more effective than the longer lasting T4. I noticed the low T3 really causes my energy to crash, and exhaustion.

6) Again, for you, your meds are too low at this point, so to figure anything out, you'll have to try a higher dose. Right now meds are low, so both T4 and T3 are low.

7) When your body us under this strain (of low thyroxin) for extended periods of time, you can easily develop adrenal exhaustion, as the body goes into overdrive/ adrenaline mode to try and function properly. The adrenal exhaustion can be treated with herbs. If you need a resource for this, send me a private note.

8) with the meds low, you won't be able to think straight to solve your own problem. The way I deal with this, is I have a couple of support friends, and I tell them ahead of time, to first ask me about my thyroid meds every time I call them, freaking out because I can't think straight. And to remind me that if I'm feeling like crap,  I probably need to increase my dose.

seriously, the  brain-fog thing makes it impossible to manage things. So keep that in mind. 

Hope that helps.

Catherine 

OMG i'm gonna crazy.

as you know i was taking 125mcg but my palpitation got high any time that was scary for me then i visited to DR. he said we will less your dosage after that he dicressed to 75mcg i am not feeling palpitation now.

i have appointment for lever ultrasound, can you tell me what should i say to my DR. about BLOOD test?

i am really confuse what should i do........

Brain fog, confusion... Your meds are too low. Low thyroid also causes heart palpitations. I went through the whole heart palpitation thing before I got the meds. The heart palpitations go away once the meds are up.

ALL of your symptoms are showing low thyroid. The higher dose worked for you before. Go back to the same one that was working. That is your first step. 

Once you've been been at the right dose for a few weeks, you should start to feel better and the brain fog should lesson. You'll be able to think straight again.

To give you some idea of a likely dose for you try using the calculation 1.7mcg per kg of body weight. It'll be interesting to know if this calculation gives an answer nearer to your original 125mcg. Working it the other way, 125/1.7, this suggests 125mcg is suitable for someone weighing 73.5kg. Remember when increasing/decreasing your dose to do it slowly to give your body time to adjust and thereby reduce side effects.

Hi,

I am using LEVOTHYROXIN 75Mcg last one month and i am not having palpitations but due to palpitations which happened, I always feel so wired every time i feel not good like something happine or gonna happen. I always feel like m gonna die evey time i feel like this, my mind is like think negative and bad every time like i saw accident i think oh it could happined with me OMG I don't know what is going on , 24/7 in my mind the bad and weird thing moving i am trying to forget and think other thing but it always comes again. What should i do??

Hi,

I am using LEVOTHYROXIN 75Mcg last one month and i am not having palpitations but due to palpitations which happened, I always feel so wired every time i feel not good like something happine or gonna happen. I always feel like m gonna die evey time i feel like this, my mind is like think negative and bad every time like i saw accident i think oh it could happined with me OMG I don't know what is going on , 24/7 in my mind the bad and weird thing moving i am trying to forget and think other thing but it always comes again. What should i do.

This sounds like anxiety. It's a side effect of thyroid meds being at the wrong dosage.

If you tell me what you weigh I will do the calculation for you of what levothyroxine dose is likely to be correct for you.

Have you had your vitamin and mineral levels checked? You need iron, Ferritin, vitamin B12, and vitamin D checked as a minimum - if you are in UK you should be able to get these easily through your GP. Low Ferritin affects the body's ability to use thyroxine. I was told by my endocrinologist that Ferritin needs to be at least 70, even though the lower range limit is 5 (range is 5-204 ng/mL).

So, things to do:

1) tell us how much you weigh,

2) get blood tests for iron, Ferritin, vitamins B12 and D (and if possible a complete vitamin and mineral panel).

Finally you doing the right thing distracting yourself from worrying about what might happen.

Thanks for reply barbara,

I'll go for my vitamin test but i did my thyroid blood test it comes out now.

my FREE T4 is 0.9 ng/dL, and my TSH is 14.32ulU/mL.

my current weight is 57.11 KGS.

I am still confuse about what is happning .

Hi Smsih, with your extremely elevated TSH, and the fact that you feel like your brain is crazy, I'd try a little higher dose of meds to see if that helps. Another trick is to take a little extra medication oonce in a while, if you feel you're just a little low.

When my meds get low, my brain totally doesn't work right and I become very anxious, as the brain does nor get proper nutrients when the thyroxin is too low. The low thyroid also leads to adrenal exhaustiion, as the adrenals are stressed and try to make up for the thyroid functioin.

Once you get the thyroid meds on track and the supplements, you will need to get your adrenals back on track. A good acupuncturist/ traditional chinese medicine practitioner can help you with the adrenals. THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, as it's easy to ignore THE ADRENALS, once you get the thyroid back on track, but you will not feel well unless you address all of the issues.

Hope you're feeling better soon.

Thanks for reply MtViewCatherine,

Do you think that my brain condition and thinking ability causes of THYROID medication?

For your weight your dose is too low. The dosing recommendation of 1.7mcg per kilogram suggests it needs to be 100mcg. Your TSH level also suggests your dose is too low.  See your doctor and ask for it to be increased.  I suggest you take with you a printout of the list of hypothyroid symptoms and mark which ones you currently have.

I think the brain condition and lack of thinking ability is because you aren't getting enough thyroid medication.

You are right barbara I'll make an appointment to doctor but if you have a complete list of hypothyroid symptoms so can you share with me please.

SMSIH, I don't think the thyroid medication causes the problem. I think low thyroid causes not being able to think. If your brain isn't working, YOUR THYROID MEDICATION IS TOO LOW.

When the thyroid is too low, you can't think clearly. Low thyroxin can also cause vision problems, hair loss, itchy and irritated skin, rashes, stomach problems, water retention, weight gain, heart palpitations, blood pressure problems, hormonal imbalances and low levels. So pretty much everything goes wonky when the meds are too low.

 

As Catherine says, it affects everything, which is why you feel so rubbish. Here is a list of symptoms copied off the internet:

Fatigue

Weakness

Weight gain or increased difficulty losing weight

Coarse, dry hair

Dry, rough pale skin

Hair loss

Cold intolerance (you can't tolerate cold temperatures like those around you)

Muscle cramps and frequent muscle aches

Constipation

Depression

Irritability

Memory loss

Pain, numbness and a tingling sensation in the hand and fingers (carpal tunnel syndrome)

Irregular periods or heavy periods

Decreased libido

I would also add, sleeping a lot but waking up unrefreshed.

The NHS UK website adds:

If an underactive thyroid isn't treated... It's unlikely that you'd have many of the later symptoms of an underactive thyroid, because the condition is often identified before more serious symptoms appear. Later symptoms of an underactive thyroid include:

a low-pitched and hoarse voice

a puffy-looking face

thinned or partly missing eyebrows

a slow heart rate

hearing loss

anaemia

Hi barbara,

Now a day's i am facing Vagary. Whenever i think something then I feel the same thing happing with me. Last day i read that you can get heartattack then i felt I'm feeling heart pain omg what should i do?😢😢😢😢😢

There seems to be a link between what you see and hear leading to what you think and feel. So if you break this link you will stop the feelings. The way I do this is to not to watch or read things that are a problem! The other thing that will help is CBT (cognitive based therapy) to help you break this link. Google: 'CBT five areas' and you'll find a really good CBT approach that worked for me.

It is usually happined??

Means I'm not alone??

You're not alone, an underactive/undermedicated thyroid really messes up how we think and feel.

OMG

Barbara i have a question, I have done EKG and HOLTER MONITOR for 24 hours and reports were normal but i am still pain in my left side and heart side.

I'm sorry, I don't know what this could be. I suggest you make an appointment to see your doctor.