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lisalisa67
lisalisa67

heres my random thought based on my own life and the decades of having an anxietty disorder of some sort and other issues. When it all began it was ptsd. I still had other issues but anxiety took the forefront as the major "symptoms". I have watched anxiety disorders become an enotional issue to being re classified as a mental illness. Mhm. You know what i believe. I believe its an auto immune illness. Thats why it mimics other auto immune symptoms. Thats why it can come and go and have years in between. Trauma, illness and all that can teigger it or genetics. Im going to place a bet one day it will fall into that category. The hitch is they do not know how to fix any auto immune thing eother, i have found that out too with out noting my own issues or ailments. But in hindsight to where life has brought me and the diagnosis i have the oieces fit.  I couod really go into detail and proove this theory but not sure it matters but i am really certain this is a very valid  educated guess. Midset is needed no matter ehat you have in this oife. And a good strong mindset will always make it all better, and some pills will always help and some wont, the same sychological tools are used in bith and remissions occur all the time with both. Some more chronic then others and many stuff coexists. It is an explanation nit an a cure to say that. I firmly believe its classified wtong because this lovely world stigmatizes the sick. They fear it and cant fix it and basically would rather push it away its the nature of survival of the fittest.  Yes things coexist as well but i think this is an auto immune thing in and of itself on the nerves, on the fight or flight.

there are more auto immune things that tests can not confer, or at least take years to do. So the tests need to be updated. .many jump to MS but theres more then MS. And for petes sake so many symptoms match the auto immune ones already so it makes a ton of common sense. They also through menapausal symtpoms into similiar symtpomatic categories. Everyone id say after a decade of having anxiety disorder should see a rhematoid specialist.

 

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  • lisalisa67
    lisalisa67

    Posted

    Sorry about the typos. Hope this makes full sense even with the typos.
  • borderriever
    borderriever lisalisa67

    Posted

    Hello Lisa

    You are feeling ok ?

    My Chronic Disability is an Auto Immune system and they have put my Depression down as a Reaction to my condition, generally they would put it down to a chemical imbalance in the Brain where there is a reduction in Serotonan.

    My problem as well covers a congenital Short Term Memory Disfunction. They consider that has been caused be either medication, Opiates, or a disfunctional family life from being a child through my old occupation. So I cannot really say the Anxiety part of my Depression has been Genetic.

    My physical condition I know is genetic and my brain disfunction could have been caused by a genetic problem although they have not worked out that at this time.

    Life is so very complex and sometimes we have to allow ourselves to make errors and bcome forgetfull. I have lived with that for many years, I have to make unforgiven changes to my life and those changes can make life more dynamic and meaningful especially if we control and accept what our conditions entail to our lives

    BOB

    • lisalisa67
      lisalisa67 borderriever

      Posted

      Bob im glad you are still on here. You and i are a bit different then many on here because of actual ailments and then the anxiety disorders or for you depression. Its hard at times. I have auto immune issues and eye issue..etc..and it just makes me think this anxiety disorder can be one on the nerves. I see what the other ailments can do so it was a thought. Sometimes things flare up as you know and it meeses with the mind.

      i can calm down and deal most of the time but just seems as i age things switch up and it gets a little overwhelming at times,i do try to stay positive most of the time, i really do and i mostly have the anxiety controlled i need to body to get on board haha. I somewhat accept my conditions..im trying.maybe if i knew how much longer id be in this Earth id care less about all the wondering of what the future brings. Id appreciate a decent quality of life as this is the quarter of my life haha. Maybe less then a quarter but i figure a twenty span to go. 

    • lisalisa67
      lisalisa67

      Posted

      twenty years span to go* 
    • borderriever
      borderriever lisalisa67

      Posted

      Lisa

      I know how you feel, it is strange I got complemented the other day for my general education, We seem to become more resilient the older we get Anxiety Depression and conditions accepted.

      I have stopped looking at not only my past, also my future. I feel I have the concentration of a, better not say.???.

      We live our lives on a daily basis, tomorrow I forget and consider the problems OR Activities I need to undertake at that time.

      Life is to complex to worry about over the extended period of twenty four hours, if I can get through my day from say 9 till 12 I have managed my time quite well and will accept my little errors and bloomers. Sometimes  suppose it is better to forget past days and live for now

      BOB

  • Needhelp_asap
    Needhelp_asap lisalisa67

    Posted

    Oh Lisa, you really are smart and aware. You really need an explanation to all this, as all of us. Hah. What you're saying makes perfect sense actually! I've never thought about it like that. Seems like they're all looking at the wrong way! 

    You just gave me food for thought, really.

    • Needhelp_asap
      Needhelp_asap

      Posted

      However, I think it can be classified. Does the fact that most people get it just before adulthood at the age of 18 and so, make it an auto immune thing? Is it just a coincidence? More explanation is needed on that. People who get it at an older age might have something co existing that has been triggered indeed, but what about young people my age? It's complicated really

    • lisalisa67
      lisalisa67 Needhelp_asap

      Posted

      Auto immune is genetic and enviornemtal. Can be triggered by stress in the body. Any stress mental or physical or even hormonal. We are all equipt with a fight or response in goid solid condition upon birth. Something triggers it to go awry. The entrance in has been trauma, illness, drugs..a stress in the body and that area is somehow attacked to where it doesnt reset properly. Thats all i can say it triggers something all i know to call it is auto immune. It is complicated because it is not understood. Otherwise it would be simple haha. Age doesnt matter. Age is irrelevant. 
    • lisalisa67
      lisalisa67

      Posted

      The other theory is we scared or insulted our souls. Geez imagine. But there would be no scan for that making it a very deep journey to first awaken then sooth the soul. Or its both i dont know. I know some people view themselves as one dimensional although that can not be correct at all but who am i to tell someone they have a soul anyway. Although theres no way we dont we are energy its all we are when you get down to it, every single  drop of us is in fact a living cell. But that is a lot to take in, science clearly is well aware which is why all of a sudden they agree meditation and. Mindful and finding solace is so vital to healing anything and everything,

      on a very random not i once watched a show of this family who kept reliving the day before a house fire  (they died in  it) anyway as long as they went about the routine all was well. But the daughter somehow awakened. Oh what a mess seeing things as they really were and experiencing things not so pleasant but not bad per say just seeing the truth of it all. The only way to exists was for her to go back to sleep per say. But she couldnt because she was already awakened.the end of the show she awoke everyone involved and of course they all freed their souls and it ended lovely, why that show stays in my mind ill never know. I saw it decade ago at least. Had a very strong theme to it. Makes you wonder its always the minority who awaken at first. The others seems so happy going about their day to day existing..who is normal here? Who is awakening and who isn't, and is it really a bad thing or are we made to believe it is a bad thing. So much is what we taught to believe as correct..as normal. Who knows the truth. Monks go thru this early in their traing many of them. They call it a spiritual crisis and are taught how to accept it and deal with it and manage it and even blossom within it. Via mediatatiins and deep within self calming and solace.  So twontheories biunce about, the oatter is for the one who dares to delve deeper then the "body" i have zero clue what the answer really is. And most of this world hate and pushes away anything deeper then the concrete body so i shut up on that part of it. Silly world the bible would never ever ever come to be in this day and age ever. None of it. Anyone in this planent ever tried to say even a tenth of it to the public would be heavily medicated immediately. We dont accept real spiritual stuff anymore as a discussion. Im not sure if atheists believe they have souls or they are some robotics walking around. I just know what i know and feel what i feel and know we all share needing solace and refuge from this.and we arent finding it at this time in our enviornments,

      hahahaha sounds so out there. But again two theories or maybe both together who knows. I surely do not know.it just seems to me we werent born to suffer so something not right.i have a very hard time thinking our bodies really  are working against us. I just dont believe that would be correct. So something is going on.

      if that offended anyone it not meant to be offensive, its an opinion or really a thought. All along the same journey to find solace in all of this or anything bad. Its a forum to comfort, vent, discussion whatever to bring comfort. So i noted that extraness lol. Not religious based at all. It is spiritually based though. Just apologizing in advance theres always someone who gets offended for some reason when spiritual stuff is noted. Maybe it is despracy on my part to find the way out of all this. 

    • Needhelp_asap
      Needhelp_asap lisalisa67

      Posted

      Ik it's genetic but for example, we don't have anything auto immune running in the family, apart from diabetes which only my grandpa has. Nobody else. My point is, it makes good sense that the anxiety disorder could be auto immune but under certain circumstances. Also, do you think that anxiety disorder can be triggered by another ilness in the body or not?

      Well environment, you can't really control it, except if people finally realise  and start taking care of it. It's pretty sh*tty in cities as far as I'm concerned so it's inevitable. Even worse in America. 

    • Needhelp_asap
      Needhelp_asap lisalisa67

      Posted

      Right..here comes the moderation hah.

      Anyway, what I said is that it makes good sense that anxiety disorder can be auto immune but under certain circumstances. Do you think that anxiety disorder can be triggered by another pre existing ilness or inflammation in the body? 

      Also, doesn't that make depression and other mental ilnesses auto immune? This is a looong and interesting talk.

      I think I'll go more with the 2nd theory although the 1st one makes absolute sense but I don't like the idea of our bodies attacking us. Haha pretty scary. I'm really into spiritual stuff and I believe that yes, our souls are scared. This is not the world our souls would want to live, we don't deserve that. We deserve to live in a less stressful environment. We're not made for all this technology, we're human above all, not robots. We're meant to spend more time in nature, yet technology has us all locked up inside the house. Including me and I'm ashamed. Things are supposed to be simpler than that, but they can't be cause everything is leaded by...guess what..MONEY. That's all we care for. Oh this world, sometimes I can't stand it.

    • lisalisa67
      lisalisa67

      Posted

      Did not turn out to really be "progress" 🤔

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