In hospital just been told I have emphysema... Scared

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I understand now that I have to give up smoking and I'm going to try but I tried 2 years ago with the help of everything. E cigarettes, nicotine patches and I managed to cut down to 5 roll ups a day. It was Hell and I felt ill. My smoking has of course gone up and I am terrified. I am a recovering alcoholic, 6 years clean and all my willpower went into that and still does. I've read this forum with interest. Could somebody please explain the difference between vapour and e cigarettes. I WILL do it I could just use some comfort from others

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    Well, here's my take on it. Others may class all the different e-cigs as 'vaping' .. and all 'vapers' as 'e-cigs'. But I'll make a distinction for those who aren't aware.

    Fundamentally, they both have the same outcome .. they deliver flavoured nicotine in a vapour. The only difference is the apparatus used.

    An ‘e-cig’ looks like a real cigarette and work with screw-in cartridges (as I recall) .. most have rechargeable batteries.

    A ‘vaper’ has a ‘tank’ into which nicotine flavoured liquid (I call it juice) is poured .. which is smoked through a variety of applicators. Some look like a large rather unwieldy pen, others have large ‘tanks’ and look a bit like you’re smoking through one of those old fashioned mobile phones!

    I used the ecigs for quite a while, and found them very satisfying, but just too expensive .. the batteries mainly. I was spending more than I was on proper fags.

    Then, I was introduced to vaping.

    The ‘juice’ (mine costs £10 for 3 x10 ml bottles), which easily lasts me getting a fortnight. And the batteries last much much longer.

    In short, they both do the same thing, but I find ‘vaping’ is a hell of a lot cheaper., thats all.

    Hope this helps.

    Jo

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      Just a short addendum to my posting above: I am NOT advocating that anyone uses 'e-cigs' as a permanent alternative to real cigarettes .. they're not. They are purely a means to an end, thats all .. the end being, freedom from the terrible drug that is nicotine.

      I can't WAIT until I no longer need a crutch of any kind.

      Jo

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    I'm probably a lot older than many of you in this forum...soon to be 69.... and have smoked since I was 15.  Miraculously, I am diagnosed with only early stage COPD, but it is daunting!  I have no will power to stop, and believe if only I could do the 30 minute walk a day, I will be better. I did try the E cig but not the vapor one, and still smoke.  I have heard success stories from people who have quit using the Vap one, though.  I am on O2, mostly at night, and use an inhaler occassionally. I have a long way to go, but good luck to you with stopping to smoke.
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    Hi I was diagnosed with copd 18 mnths ago, I had been a smoker from 14 yrs of age (63 now) the doc gave me champix, 2nd time of using and I managed to get cig free. Not eady but the thought if being shackled to an oxygen cylinder spurred me on. Good luck try the champix dont substitute a cig for something similar xx take care
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    Hello Lisa. I have been off proper cigs for a month (using a vapouriser) and here's how I did it. I set myself a target of 40 days (Lent) without promising to go any further than that...this took away the awful finality of it, but a month down the line, I have stopped saying that I'm giving up for Lent and have started saying I will stay off them after Lent too because I feel so proud of my achievement. I shall just take a day/week at a time after Lent, setting myself achievable goals and keeping on renewing the goals. A tip I picked up from a friend who uses a vapouriser is not to look at yourself as a non-smoker, but a smoker who is using an alternative way of smoking (if you use a vapouriser/e cig). Again, this worked for me psychologically because it removed the terrible finality. I literally am taking one day at a time, but with every day that passes, the finality doesn't seem so bad. If you have blip (like I did on one day), forgive yourself and move on. Just start again the following day. Try setting a target that you can achieve, then if you succeed, set another target etc. I really hope this helps you and very good luck. I am not sure, but I think e cigs are the ones that pretend to look like cigs and vapourisers are the ones that you add liquid to. Good luck. If you can quit the booze, you are strong enough to quit the cigs
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    Hi Lisa,

    I just want to confuse you alittle more...lol...I think Josephine might be alittle confused but she's very close to right. .......

    The Ecig is a electronically charged simulated cigarette...they look like a cig usually and they have prefilled amounts of nicotine in them so you can puff or inhale or suck in on it and it ignites a small burner coil that heats the nicotine and you get your dose. It does let off a small amount of nicotine vapor that evaporates quickly. Some do not let off any vapor. That makes them great to use inside a building.

    The Vapor cig.is a battery that can have many shapes from cylinder like a fat cig to like my current one which is like a zippo lighter..square. These batteries screw into little tanks that hold fluid....but my biggest correction for Josephine is that they are NOT all nicotine. In fact, Many people just like to blow the vapor with no nicotine in them at all. I ask for nicotine bc I'm weining off cigarettes this is also just a new fad that people do for fun like Hooka Bars. Yes you can get all kinds of flavors or even menthol flavored cig flavor. I just wanted to let you know the nicotine is a choice and you can choose your mgs of it as well. Do you agree with me Josephine? At least that's how it is here in the States. Go to a vapor store and you can test them out and try flavors. My grandkids love the smell of mine....what a wonderful alternative to cigarettes!! I don't think I could have quit after 35 yrs without it!! Keep us posted! Ladyjack51

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    PS....I just wanted to add...I had a friend who used Chantex and nearly went nutts. She was one of the one's that it worked differently on. She fought with her girl and wanted to kill herself...she newbit c was this drug so she came off of it and is fine now. That scared me so I wouldn't take it but I've heard it works well for some people. I just didn't want to take that chance. My lung Dr likes the vapor cigs and has no issue with them.
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    I don't know much about the e cigarettes or vaping but I wish you well no matter how you give up.

    Just in case you haven't seen my earlier posts, what kept me off the smokes the last time I gave up (5 years ago before I had heart attack & was later diagnosed with emphysema) was learning that in some countries where tobacco is grown, child slave labour is used ( as young as 5!) and if the k ids don't meet their quotas they are raped.  I could not longer support such a disgusting industry.

    I hope that helps!   I stopped HEAPS of times over 45 years and found willpower doesn't have much to do with it, it was more about caring for myself and others around me, the environment (tobacco growing & drying uses lots of pesticides and clears forests for the drying process) and finally the above info did it.

    Just keep trying everything and you'll get there.  Alan Carr's books are good too

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    I would like to thank all you wonderful people with your help. It amazes me that there are some good people in this world still willing to help others despite their problems.

    Ironically I got told I was misdiagnosed! I do have the lungs of a 46 year old woman who has smoked since 13 but there were underlying problems to do with something else. It was definitely a wake up call though and I bought a vapour kit with medium nicotine and follow up bottles of medium and low. At the moment I am alternating between cigarettes and vapour and so have managed to halve my smoking already. I shall continue to do this at a pace I can cope with until I stop! Bless you all for your help 😊😊😊

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      What a nice messageLisa. I truly hope you succeed and that you finally give up smoking. If you are vaping please use pharma grade nicotine to limit any damage. Swevan and V2 webites provide this. Probably loads more too x P.S. I have the lungs of an eighty year old apparently and I'm still breathing. Keep at it x
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      Thank you Shauna. I have already cut down from over 20 a day to 10 a day plus vapour in between. I am using a very reputable site and have ordered medium and low nicotine. I totally intend to do it but in my own way in my own time. Bless you. X
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      You're a star Lisa. Do it your way and you will succeed! You can only do it your way, as can I. Well done for using a reputable e juice site. I too thank everyone on here who has given me positive advice. It has meant a lot and I no longer feel so alone. Good luck to everyone x
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