Inflammation in gum
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This is an unusual one...... I had a crown fixed a couple of years ago following root canal treatment. I had low level pain for months and kept telling the dentist who said it would settle down.,... Then I needed a filling in the next door tooth and the pain got even worse..... So finally the dentist removed part of the filling and found that a bit of enamel from the crown had embedded itself in the gum and it was very inflamed and bled a fair bit when he removed it. After a couple of days of pain, I was pain-free there - what a relief! Weird thing is that I am now so used to low level pain that I had just got used to it.... However, I have a feeling that this whole thing probably raised my inflammatory markers and may have impacted on PMR generally.
I don't expect anyone else to have had this particular peculiar problem but...... does anyone have any thoughts on gum inflammation and its impact on pmr generally?
I am seeing my rheumatologist in ten days so will mention this to him.
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Diana112 louisa85653
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louisa85653 Diana112
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FlipDover_Aust louisa85653
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I can't help you with this one, sorry, I have perfect teeth! lol
louisa85653 FlipDover_Aust
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andrea93419 louisa85653
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Hi Louisa!
2 months prior to my PMR I went to my dentist because my gums were bleeding when I brushed!,, my oral hygiene was excellent so my dentist told me. However she felt I had an underlying auto immune problem due to my bleeding gums with no obvious reason!! I dismissed her comments then low and behold by the Christmas I couldn't bend or turn over in bed with a CRP reading of 100!!!!! the rest is history!! So yes there is a strong connection between 'gums' and inflammatory problems!
hope this is a help to you.
Andrea xx
louisa85653 andrea93419
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That makes sense. Hope you are doing ok now. It does help to tryto make sense of all of this.
Louisa x
EileenH louisa85653
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It may have increased your inflammatory markers - but they aren't a cause of PMR. they are a sign of PMR. Any illness or stress can impact on your symptoms but pred will deal with a lot of different inflammation so really, it shouldn't make that much difference.
louisa85653 EileenH
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That's great to know - thankyou. Again I am glad the situation is resolved. It does help though as I had been surprised that the markers were raised just after a holiday in the summer when I wasn't stressed or ill in any wayay - but the tooth/gum was niggling so that must have been it!
jean1948 louisa85653
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EileenH jean1948
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There is a form of inflammatory arthritis which is due to an infection - and is called "reactive arthritis". I think (I honestly am not sure) that there is also a form of PMR that could be described as reactive PMR. It appears in response to such an event - and (I'm delighted to tell you) tends to disappear faster than PMR often does. "Normal" PMR can last anything from 2 to 6 years for 75% of patients. The 2 year patients may be a reactive form of course - but a reactive arthritis normally clears up within a few months or so.
The symptoms of PMR can also be the same as symptoms of an inflammatory arthritis - and there is no real way to tell the difference.
louisa85653 jean1948
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I will certainly keep you posted. I didn't have antibiotics but had pain for a long time and the gum was very inflamed. I didn't have this before the onset of one though I did have sensitive gums - will see what the rheumatologist thinks!
louisa85653 EileenH
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Thanks Eileen that is helpful. This happened after the onset of pmr (if it is pmr I was interested that the woman taking my DCA bone scan said I had 'suspected pmr'' . However I did have sensitive gums..... Will see what the rheumatologist says next week....
jean1948 EileenH
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Thank you Eileen, it is a relief to hear this and I hope you are right
The pain in my muscles came on so soon after this tooth infection that I can't help but think that there must be a connection between the two. With any luck it may be something that runs it's course. Needless to say that tooth is coming Out!
It is good to be able to read input from people like yourself who know about this condition, it can be so confusing when it comes on suddenly out of the blue, I know very little about it and it is good to hear first hand from someone who is a sufferer an knows more detail.
FlipDover_Aust jean1948
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if you hear other people's stories you will discover that a large percentage have had some sort of infection prior to PMR diagnosis. For example, I had a very nasty dose of bronchitis for 8 weeks prior to my own diagnosis (mind you it was a month or so afterwards). However, I have a theory that our weakened immune systems are what triggers them to go haywire. It also seems to come after/during periods of high stress - also true in my case.
EileenH FlipDover_Aust
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As you know Flip - they are all things that affect our immune systems. They just pile up - and eventually that last straw breaks the system's back and it has a paddy! Yet another reason to look at stress and try to avoid it!
jean1948
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Can you tell me or do you know if headaches can be a part of this PMR because I seem to have persistent headaches since it began, i also feel really washed out and tired, all this combined with the constant muscle aches I knew when it all began that something wasn't right.
louisa85653 jean1948
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I had lots of headaches at the beginning - about three years ago but haven't been so troubled with them now.... I am tireduch of the time though as well as the muscle aches ...
I had am MRI scan for my headaches but that was inconclusive .... Good news and also good that headaches have stopped. I hope yours go soon but do tell the rheumatologist....
EileenH jean1948
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Are you sure the headaches are PMR or are they pred-related? One of the pred side-effects is headaches.
That said, PMR and GCA are very closely related and headache is one of the typical GCA symptoms. You can have GCA without it being full-blown and affecting the optic nerve GCA - but it could still cause headaches and other symptoms. However, you would expect the pred to help with that sort of headache. The "flu-ey" feeling is a very common symptom with most autoimmune disorders - and unfortuantely, most of the medications don't help with that greatly. Pred only manages the inflammation to relieve the symptoms it causes - the actual disease chugs away in the background and some of the symptoms due to that persist.