Information on the Prostate and Procedures
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I'm writing this because I think it good information for all men to know. There was a man on this site that had a UROLIFT. It worked for for a few weeks and after 3 month's he is back to were he is before. Med also. Hes doctor told him it did not work because he had a soft prostate. Being on this site that is the first time I ever heard that. I try finding some information on it can't find anything. So I sent a email to my urologist and what he said I think all men should know if they are not aware of it right now. I am going to write it just the way he sent it to me.It could have not work because he has a median lobe that the doctor was not aware of. Men have different groth phases of the prostate, if you happen to catch the prostate in the middle of a groth cycle it is conceivable that the prostate could grow past the urolift put in but we never know when this is going to happen because all men are different. Also he may need more implant. You can have from 4 to 8 it all depands on the size of the prostate. I thank him every day for be my urologist. I feel this information it want we all need because information is the key to good health and getting the best treatment we can Take care all Ken
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derek76 kenneth1955
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The with one bound he was free factor:-)
kenneth1955 derek76
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paul44935 kenneth1955
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chris15677 paul44935
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I agree, Paul. In 2000, I had an accident at sea which impacted my prostate. I was in agony for 3 days before we made landfall. When I eventually got to a hospital the consultan urologist told me never to take antihistamines - (sea sickness tablets included) ever again. I never have done, but my prostate problems didn't go away.
jimjames paul44935
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Yes, antihistamines are one culprit. Decongestants can be even worse. NSAID's can also give problems. There are others. Always check the side effect profile because doctors often don't warn us, even those with bph, amazing as that is. One of the benefits of CIC is that it doesn't matter. You can take your allergy meds and still empty your bladder completely. Your cath schedule and NVs just may be a little different.
?Are you keeping a void log? You want to adjust your cath schedule so that your bladder volume is under 400ml whenever possible. That would be the sum of your cath volume plus any natural void preceding it. You should also try a natural void before cathing if possible.
Jim
kenneth1955 jimjames
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paul44935 jimjames
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Yes, I do as much natural voiding as I can (not much) but don't keep a log. At least three years with this BPH issue has caused me to reduce my liquid intake quite a bit and so I don't really have to worry about volume being above 400. I stay alert to the natural output before and between cathetering, however, as a sign that anything of the alternative stuff I am trying (home-made alcohol-infused sawpalmetto, bee pollen, tilted bed, whole plant food diet, exercise, etc.) is working. So far nothing other than possibly maintaining the status quo. I'll be sure to let the world know should I luck into something. Hey, I lucked into you guys! Paul
jimjames kenneth1955
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Thanks Ken for the info. I just hope your doctor is wrong because if they did a Urolift without checking/being aware of a median lobe then that is very sad and negligent.
Jim
kenneth1955 jimjames
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What my doctor thinks is that he did not have a large median lobe when the doctor did it so he missed it and with in 3 months it got bigger. Because it worked for 3 weeks and they stopped. I think the doctyor did not put in enough implates. I don't know if you remember Chuck. He had his right after I had mine. He had 4 put in. It worked for a few month's and then it stopped 6 to 8 month's later he had 4 more put in and he was great after. I would change doctors how can you miss that. My doctor have done the urolift on men that have a smaller median lobe and just pulled it to the one side. He said it can be done but not on a very large lobe. That would have to be removed to open you up. I have never heard of a soft prostate. Take it easy Ken
jimjames kenneth1955
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Surprised a median lobe would grow that much in 3 months, maybe your doc was just being polite FWIW a normal prostate is "soft" and they tend to harden with BPH. Don't know the experience level of his doc, but with these new procedures there will be lots of docs doing them without much experience.
Jim
kenneth1955 jimjames
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derek76 jimjames
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The word used for my prostate years ago was "Boggy"
kenneth1955 derek76
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That's a new one. Never heard it called that before. Have a nice day Ken
jimjames derek76
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I've seen that term used to mean inflamed or infected as in prostatitis.
paul44935 jimjames
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FWIW, I came across a legit medical site that advised pure cranberry juice for us types as an infection preventative (not a cure according to my urologist) since bacteria cannot live in an acidic environment. By the same token minimize the orange juice as it is alkaline - a perfect environment.
Today I had confirmation for the efficacy of size 14 over 12. The latter had been fine for this my first week of personal plumbing until this morning when it wouldn't pass into the bladder. Came back with blood inside. Tried afresh, more blood. Rather than impale myself further, I went to my local clinic where we had a go with a 14. This time success. Cheers, Paul
jimjames paul44935
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Hi Paul,
The literature is mixed regarding acidic environment versus alkaline with the newer papers recommending alkaline. Very confusing.
Yes, going to a larger size is one recommended protocol when you can't pass the bladder. Alternatively, technique wise, you can try different things such as focused relaxation, coughing, or a VERY SUBTLE AND GENTLE twisting at the bladder sphincter. You don't twist very far. More recommendations elsewhere in thread.
What catheter are you using? Coude or straight? Different catheters have different characteristics including rigidity. For example, I cannot use a red rubber 12 (too flexible) but the Coloplast Speedicath 12 works fine.
Glad the 14 worked out for you. I have both 12's and 14's at home. I started with 14 but now use the 12s. I still keep some 14's just in case.
Jim
jimjames
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Just want to add that some blood for the first several weeks is normal. Not to worry.
Jim
paul44935 jimjames
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