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hi all, im new to this group.Im just after some advice to be honest, im so dissapointed ive just been told i dont meet the criteria for p.i.p, im gutted as ive never claimed for anything before and ive suffered with severe back pain for 9 years now and only just applied for p.i.p. my day to day life now is very limited what i can do with extreme pain or lots of help from my husband. i cannot dress my lower half of body or tie shoes or but boots on, i cannot to daily chores properly so alot of it falls on my hubby, i cannot walk far,i cannot sit for any length of time or stand for any time so work wouldnt be an option,im on 3 different lots of medication each day, sometimes im so drugged up i want to go to bed by 6pm but with kids thats not an option,i cannot bath my kids without it causing great pain,i have to get on my knees to get something in or out of oven,and surely thats dangerous,i sometimes need help getting in and out of the bath.All the things i cannot do and the constant use of pain relief is really getting me down and im always getting upset now,my quality of life now is at an all time low,and then when i finaly bite the bullet i get refused.Im so upset the the fact that they dissregard the amout of  pain im in,my xray result said loss of lumbar lordosis but im still not 100% what that is, google has confused me!! do i just accept what dwp have said or is it worth fighting,i dont want the added stress if the outcome will be the same.any advice hugely appriciated xx

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    Hi, YES from what you have said I would appeal, what have you got to loose?I would get citizens advise, bennifits and work or someone with experience to help you fill the forms in for appeal. Sadly you cannot talk about new ailments that you didnt talk about in your claim. To get the mobility you have to be unable to walk the length of three buses without pain or difficulty. With regard to personal care, you need to nead help with washing dressing preparing a meal. with regards to you bathing your children that wont count,  household duties dont score any points, its all about personal care. you have to be in constant pain that causes you to not be able to stand or sit for at least 50$ of the time. The assesers are watching you walk in and if you manage to sit for the interveiw they will say your ok. if you can raise your arms above shoulder height , and bend down and pick something off the floor, they will say your fine. These days you have to be very dissabled to get PIP, Its worth appealing but get help with the forms. hope this helps. Jane xx

     

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    If you have a definitive diagnosis and can prove that you meet the criteria for PIP the appeal.

    If you cannot prove that you have a specific condition backed-up by medical evidence then you will not get any further than you are now.

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    Hi Sharon,

    It is probably to how the PIP Application Form was filled in, content-wise which lost you the award. Many people fall for the traps the DWP have placed in their  forms and if you're new to filling them in, you simply lose even before being assessed, you're not the first and will not be the last. What people fail on is you need to go in to detailed content on disorders (pain - if you know the medical name then give it to them, also tell how it affects you on daily basis, if the pain you suffer from relates to over 70% in 24 hours or over! This would definitely count! ), painkillers (type and amount per day), medical records, SAR's if you have any.

    All of the above needs careful consideration, but needs to be in your appeal at least.

    Do not accept the DWP outcome, this is what they want you to do! They have an 800,000 back log of Appeals, so you appealing will just add more work for them, and takes longer. All letters from the DWP keep, anything you send them Photocopy, since they have tendancies to lose information. If you see a consultant at the hospital, even if it was in the past write it down and their profession - the more you can collect the better your case becomes. Also, note the letter you got states 28 days to appeal, you can in fact phone them and ask for a 14 day extension if you need it, to gather more detailed medical information.

    If you are having problems getting dressed, etc. I would suggest you contact your local Council and ask for Adult Social Care then ask for a review by an Occupational Therapist. You can also ask your own doctor for help, they can help you with disability equipment from District Nurses, for example a hospital bed which is electric to help you get in and out of bed.

    There is always help out there, but it's knowing whom to contact and where. I hope this information helps, or if you need further help let me know.

    Regards,

    Les.

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      Hi les

      Thankyou so much for your reply,im feeling more possitive about appealing,i dont have much confidence about some things and i was just going to take what they had tokd me but im going to fight it out now.thankyou very much for your advice

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      Hi Sharon,

      You are more than welcome. Having a 'positive' attitude on life can make all the difference on your vision, having negative thoughts only brings you down. I myself have been there many times in my lifetime, I have had cancer and beat it, part of my intestines turned gangrene and I was dying from the inside-out, that happened twice - 3 times close to death. Even with all that, and I have just been signed off cancer remission - I have many other disorders that I would not wish up on anyone. Like yourself I am in pain virtually 24/7, my wife cares for me, I can't stand, get dressed, or even hold a cup of coffee or tea. Every night is the same, pain from muscle cramps, spasms and pins & needles. Both of my legs are swollen, and ankles and feet - so, the only way I can get around is if my wife pushes me, I suffer from a rare nerve disorder and I cannot even use an electric wheelchair, because I am unable to steer it, I tried once and scratched our new car all along the bumper! I'm on DLA both High Component rates, gave up the mobility side for a car, without that attending regular hospital appointments would be impossible. I have 6 injections at the hospital every 10 weeks, they are BOTOX and sting like hell when injected in to cramped tensed muscles. The only way to describe my disorder is imagine not being able to control any muscles 24/7 and if I try to fight it, it just becomes worse. I just had my tablets lowered to under 30 a day!! I'm on 200mg of Tramadol a day.

      Anyway, like I said let me know if I can help you out any further.

      Regards,

      Les.

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      Oh les, after hearing your story i feel like a fraud,compared to you mine is nothing.so sorry to hear what you have been through and yet your trying to help others.good for you,your amazing.keep well les and thankyou xxx
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      Hi Sharon,

      My life is not meant to make anyone look like a fraudulent claim - and besides that, the aforementioned all happened over a 30 year period, which in itself, is a long period of time.

      My disorder is progressive so initially, I was not as bad as I am now.

      My daughter has been in tears since yesterday, she lost a friend at school in a boating accident in Torbay, Devon - she was only 15, my daughter is nearly 15. It will probably hit national news today, I noticed it was all over Facebook yesterday, and in the Daily Mirror online today. So sad, she was the eldest in the family, left behind a younger sister and brother. There was four on the boat at the time but her dad and her two friends managed to survive, Emily was trapped under the upturned boat. A very sad Bank Holiday for anyone that knew the girl...

      I like to help of I can, it gives me something to do - but other days even that is difficult, when muscles are spasming that I cannot hit the right keys.

      Regards,

      Les.

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