Is there a link between HH and early onset dementia?
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I've was diagnosed with HH this week (after months of investigations, genetic testing came positive for C282Y). I'm waiting to start treatment, which could take a couple more months. I'm still trying to get my head around it, which is not easy as my head feels like it's in a permanent fog - apparently this a symptom of iron overload, alongside heartaches, lethargy, body hair loss and joint pains, all of which I have). I go from feeling relieved to have a diagnosis and to know that everything I've been experiencing is not in my head, to fear and panic about the future.
I've been doing some research and came across a couple of papers suggesting a possible link between HH and early onset dementia (i.e. onset of symptoms before the age of 65).
Has anyone else come across this potential link, or have first hand experience of living with HH and early onset dementia?
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sheryl37154 nickemj
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Yes, I have read about the link. It does not necessarily have to be HH - but also includes people with high iron for other reasons. One case study I read, the patient's outcome improved by taking Cabergoline chelated the iron from his brain. More and more research with interesting findings are happening. When you search the internet, you will get more results by using "iron overload" rather than "haemochromatosis".
I had all your symptoms for the 9 years I was not diagnosed. You will probably find it dissipates with vx.
Iron does breech the brain blood barrier and affects the hypothalamus, and the pituitary gland. Check what the hypothalamus is responsible for. Also worth having your pituitary gland hormones checked out. I ended up having a small tumour on my pituitary gland which caused and excess of one the hormones which gave me some severe hormonal problems which plagued my life for 6 years, due to lack of investigation and diagnosis.
Good levels of Vit D3 and B12, CoQ10, Vit E are helpful for those with HH.
nickemj sheryl37154
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Thanks so much Sheryl.
I’m still trying to get my head around all this. I think I’ve had symptoms for a while (e.g depression and started losing body hair in my early 20s) so am worried now about permanent damage. I will ask to get my pituitary gland checked (thanks for the tip!). Are there any other tests I should be asking for? Is it my GP I need to ask for this?
Also, do you know what causes the horrible fatigue? I read somewhere it was due to iron deposits on the heart, which can lead to heart failure (which freaked me out!). Is It likely this has caused damage? My ferritin was around 400 when last tested, which I gather is not massive, especially for men.
Sorry for all the questions - Trying not to freak out .... 😳😬
sheryl37154 nickemj
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I wish I did know what causes the massive fatigue and hopefully there was a treatment for it. I still got it 26 year later. I had to give up work with this and everything else. That relieved the fatigue a bit but I still have short days.
I did get some relief as a bonus when I started taking 100mg aspirin to thin my blood to make venesections easier. I suddenly felt lighter and could walk faster, my body pain reduced, etc. It was like the aspirin (thinner blood) flushed out my cells which were full of stagnated iron. Purely layman's description.
HH research has found that CoQ10 (a good brand - don't waste your money on cheap brands) and Vit E help repair the mitochondria that is damaged by long term HH. Also Vit D deficiency is responsible for a lot of our problems. Buy a practitioner's brand Vit D3 forte drops - 4-6 drops per day. And have your B12 checked out. A Vit B12 injection every 3 months might give you a lift as it does me, even though my blood levels were in the normal range. (just discovered I am repeating myself!!)
You are only likely to get permanent damage if you had years of very high ferritin. I finally had the chance to have an MRI of my heart but not till I was de-ironed and there were no deposits in the heart so that can't be the current cause.
For head hair loss - I use Nizoral 2% shampoo, It has an ingredient in it which acts same as Regaine, leave on for about 5 mins and don't use conditioner or anything else on your scalp afterwards. I keep using it. It took a long time but it eventually grew back but it could have also been hormonally caused. HH robs our hormones. So check them out and if necessary get a supplement, particularly for testosterone as that is a very important hormone to retain. It will probably give you more strength and energy back.
Don't freak out - just keep having those venesections. The heart dr I saw who offered me the MRI said - most wisest words of all for those with HH - even if we saw deposits of iron in the heart, we cannot cut them out, suction them out, etc, just keep having venesections.
Hey, it is better than having cancer and having chemo!!!
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nickemj sheryl37154
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carol28050 nickemj
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Wow, I feel exactly the same,apart from the fear about the future. I really understand that feeling of relief.. When my GP suggested HH was a possible cause of my high Iron, I actively avoided researching it , I didn't want to scare myself unnecessarily..Now I have a diagnosis, like yourself and others, a lot of things make sense. I'm taking it one day at a time,hopeful that the treatment when I begin it will help with some if not all the symptoms,and hopefully prevent worse problems occuring in the future. I assume you've had the fibroscan and Ultrasound scans already?
carol28050
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Ps , the chewing gum thing struck a chord , for the past few months i've been either sucking on mints or chewing mint gum at work , something i've never previously done, I don't really like the taste .
nickemj carol28050
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Hi Carol
Good to hear you have a diagnosis. I've been referred to haematology and have my first appointment at the end of June. I haven't had an ultrasound or any further tests, although initial blood results suggest my liver function etc is ok, so I'm hoping no long-term damage
When did you get your diagnosis?