Is this beginning of Age Related Macular Degeneration (AMD)?

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Could anyone with AMD tell me if this happened to them before they were diagnosed with AMD?

When I wake in the morning and the bedroom is dimly light, when I look at the white walls, I can see two small blackish fuzzish round dots in the central vision of both eyes. They are not floaters as I have them in one eye. They are fixed position in each eye and move in sync with each other when I look about

As the sun rises and the room lightens up the two dots fade away. At fully lite room, or any where, the dots can't be seen. I believe they (the cause) are still there, just the brightness of the light washes them out.  

Went to an Ophthalmologist and he examined my eyes and said my nerves are in great shape. He said it's not my eyes, but in my brain, possibly from a mini-stroke.  That my be true as I asked my PCP last visit if the right side of my face looks like I had a stroke. Never seen it look like it did. 

But just in case not, has anyone with AMD had this small blackish spot as a precursor to their AMD? Or had this that lead to some other down the road eye condition?  

Thanks all! Leaning to get a 2nd doctor opinion as I think it's eye related not brain.

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    Clarify: One dot in each eye. Two total dots.
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    My partner has dry ARMD in both eyes and the condition developed gradually over a number of years. She now

    has no central vision, depending on peripheral vision only. I would suggest you ask to be referred to a local Macula

    clinic where you can be assessed by a specialist. I wish you all the best. 

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    i have exactly the same experience as you and suggest that you get a second opinion.

    I discovered two years ago via an optician appointment that I have macular dystrophy - an inherited disease whereby I will eventually lose my central vision. This could take 10 years . As far as i know, no-one in my family ever had this. I also have high pressure in my eyes, which could lead to glaucoma.

    I asked a consultant if these black spots are due to macular dystrophy and was told 'probably'.  My vision is fine at the moment and apparently lots of trials are taking place regarding macular degeneration (which I don't have, but is similar) and macular dystrophy.

    Good luck.


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    What do you see when you try to read?

    I see lots of very small grey dots on the letter (just in one eye) and occasionally one line of print appears to be sloping (as though its in italics).  The dots look a bit like dirty raindrops on a window.  Not one dot or even 2 dots but a kind of cluster.

    It started just after I finished treatment for BRVO but no-one seems able to tell me what this newprobllem is exactly, I don't like to sound racist but the doctors are all Asian and I find them very difficult to understand, but I think the lady said today that it was unlikely bet better.

    I just wondered if you were going through the same thing?  And what you'd been told at the clinic?


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    If it was from a stroke, your ophthamologist should be able to determine that by doing a Visual Field. Typically a stroke would effect peripheral vision and would be easily recognized on a Visual Field. I would think your ophthamologist would want to do an OCT scan instead to may sure there is not fluid or anything pushing on the nerve. If you had beginning stages of ARMD they should be able to see drusen or tissue changes when they look at the back of your eye or when they take photos.
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    Regarding enhancer reply.  I have the same problem when reading with one eye closed - wavy, sloping lines and small spots, although hardly noticeable..  If you have had a scan then all is fine, if not I'm sure it would be beneficial to have one.

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    This is totally normal. It even has a name, though I've forgotten it. It's just your fovea adjusting to the change in light

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