Is this Ulcerative Colitis?

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Ok, so my history is this .4 years ago I had what I now realise is fairly minor bleeding ( similar bleeding has always been diagnosed before and since as plies/ fissure). The GP sent me for a sigmoidoscopy, leading up to and at this stage I had NO OTHER SYMPTOMS of UC , no pain, diahorrea, no bleeding, no tiredness, no general malaise, in fact I went for the sigmoidoscopy feeling pretty fine. The sigmoidoscopy showed ulcers and UC was diagnosed on the basis of the sigmoidoscopy only. So my question is - is the sigmoidoscopy alone, without other symptoms enough to diagnose UC? At the time I was under a great deal of stress at work and was also taking aspirin every day - could either of these have caused the ulcers shown on the sigmoidoscopy?

In the 4 years Since diagnosis I have had no 'classic' symptoms of UC, no diahorrea, no pain, no bleeding ( other than minor bleeding that has been diagnosed as piles). A subsequent Colonoscopy was clear and all blood tests and calprotectin (?) results have been clear.

Since diagnosis I have periods of exhaustion, abdominal discomfort ( not pain) strange bowel motions from time to time (not diahorrea more narrow stools but only once a day) No other symptoms. Looking at the mesalazine info these are all listed as side effects .

If the answer to q 1 above is 'yes' is it possible that my symptoms since have been side effects of the drugs, rather than symptoms of UC? I may be grasping at straws but am really puzzled by what my GI calls my 'atypical symptoms '. Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

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    Hi Claire - I suffered from distal UC which has the symptom of thin stools but no diahorrea. Some of my inflammatory markers were also normal despite a serious Flare Up.  I'd keep he pressure on.

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      It's a long story Claire but latterly bleeding and more typical symptoms but never diahorrea or stomach cramps. I was never sure if the Steroids, immunosuppressant or other drugs made me feel better. If your not satisfied keep hasseling. Is there an IBD nurse at the practise because they're often a good source of information?

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    Hi Claire

    It sounds like me I had uc for 11 years and lived perfectly normal until a 9 month flare while pregnant in 2015. I never had diahorrea or bleeding everytime stools were sometimes thick and thin sorry but we all poop! Stomach cramps but nothing major and if the ulcers have come up it maybe likely you have UC ..

    I was fine took pentasa twice a day low doseage and was ok till 2015 however I did avoid wheat and dairy which seemed to help me but everyone is different I did find a good controlled diet contributes a lot but after my baby I was so ill no food or medications like the steroids or immune suppressants were going to save my colon. In the end I had surgery but hey life is a lot better now.. however I don't think you are at that stage and fingers crossed don't get there..

    Any questions let me know X

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    Hi Claire,

       So on a sigmoid you had UC dx? However, on a subsequent colonoscopy it showed no signs? Also blood tests are among the least reliable. Before I give my opinion, I would say this......Learn to take some emotion out of your thoughts( which is easier said than done ). I say this out of knowing human emotion, but also as someone who would have gladly took that advise if presented a long time ago. I also say this because the last thing you want is anxiety....which btw serotonin 80% of it is located in the Digestive system. I say anxiety because it looks like your typing with angst, and having stress( un needed ) is not the greatest in achieving satisfactory results, in any situation. I could be wrong, but based on your time line and questions you ask, understandingly so, there seems to be anxiety( your worry of a clear test 4 years later ). So, that would be my first advise, is just create less stress. I have a Type A personality so I get it. 

          To answer your first question. A sigmoidoscopy as you know covers the starting point of the colon. I am sure biopsies were taken of that. I am also sure, in doing so, that it rendered consideration in that dx. However to answer your question, Yes that can be good enough for a Dx, for the mentioned above, but also just in general. Most  people who get UC, it starts out in the rectum/sigmoid, or usually is the main area of UC just in gernal( see pancolitis as a difference ). However, a sigmoid is not entirely ideal, because you are limiting the scope of view( literally and figuratively ). 

           So Ideally, a colonoscopy would be the one. However, that would not disregard the sigmoid in totality. To your second question, is it possible? Yes, anything is possible.....but this kind of goes back to how I opened....less anxiety. The matter of the fact, based on what you wrote, is that there was a DX and suggestion of UC. This I would think would come from the eye but also Biopsy. Also, you mentioned no symptoms at the time, but are noticing discomfort and some minor strange things since then. Basically your histology complaints were no tiredness, but now you are having bits of that. However, lets actually not confuse the two...." Since Diagnosis" and...something happening for years are two different answers. A Diagnosis doesn't really change symptoms....unless the symptoms or problem is treated. An example....I was driving on a road, I was making a turn and got hit by a car. Upon examination there was a chipped vertabrae. This was of concern to the supervisory nurse. I was then sent to a more proper hospital with a surgical team. I was told, I may never walk again. My neck was in a fixed position with a brace. The surgical team was delayed( emergency ). So for 4 hours I could lay there or I could see if I could stand. - I am not advocating this, but the story serves a purpose- Either way, unless I do further damage, nothing I do will change the fact if I can walk or not. So I stood up, got on my feet, and I was fine. I then laid back down, as to not cause anything further. The specialist/surgeon comes in, and says my back did show damage to the vertabrae, but it could be from an old injury...( I weight train ). Also, there is nothing he would do different anyway, regardless of what caused the vertabrae damage, so no surgery( too young, and would not improve outcome ). He asked if I had back pain....I thought about it, and said yes. Now had I given it that much thought prior to the accident...my answer still could have been yes. Do you see what I am getting at? So "Since" the accident I have back pain and a chipped vertabrae, right or wrong?.....Do you see my point? He( surgeon) also correlated that based on what the supervisory nurse said, he thought it was going to be much greater. 

          So far as since your diagnosis, what else changed, besides your anxiety etc? The diagnosis itself, someone saying something, does not change it's effects on the body, unless treated or solved. Since at the time you had no sympstoms on your histological complaints, what changed...anxiety level? Sleep? ..... Far as your exhaustion etc. The one thing that has changed in the last 4 years is age, maybe you might want to get a blood panel, also hormone panel if rendered.(  On your pit. gland, you have a posterior and anterior. They have hormones, LH, FSH, etc ). 

         I really don't think your grasping for straws, I think you might have some anxiety and are looking for answers. Normal. The fact is, relax. You have a good scope. UC 10% that get it, they will never get it again. In others, it can come and go. Also genetics, if you have someone in your close family, this could some ties to it. However, those are the facts. Maybe it was that...However, stress( an abundant or chronic unnecessary stress is never good ). So, relax...just a little. Which is why I said, have thought with less emotion at times. I am not degrading your curiosity or search of a second or third opinion. However, claire I hope that this helped answer some of your questions. Also, yes most drugs of anti inflammation can have side effects. In fact, Some steroids will give some of what you mentioned. I am actually taking MicroBiology and just covered topic, and can search and see what some of the bacterium were that cause Diarrhea, which your not having. If you ever want to to talk, I can send my info( social media ), and you can feel free to send a message online. 

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    Thanks everyone for your responses. I have spoken to the IBD nurse, who was equally puzzled by my symptoms. I do understand that anxiety is contributing to my malaise and the GP and GI have both commented that I appear to be v anxious about this. Having talked it over with my GP I guess the q comes down to not ' is this uc' but whether , if I have such a mild case of UC as to never have had any symptoms is the benefit of taking mesalazine outweighing the risks of developing symptoms? I think that this is something only my GI can advise on from his experience and I know the risks of stopping mesalazine so I'm not going to do anything without his advice. I'm going to discuss this at my next hospital appointment.

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    Hi claire I'm in a similar position to you .I have had minor rectal bleeding on and off for 4 months. 2 drs examined me and diagnosed piles. After 2 months I saw another dr who I pursuaded to send me for a sigmoidoscopy as I was quite anxious. I went for the sigmoidoscopy yesterday and the Dr said when doing it that he could see the colitis which was quite a shock .I'm confused as I've never had any other symptoms other than a small amount of mucus when constipated .

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