Just diagnosed with EBV and CFS . Help! Need advice !
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Been going through this almost 6 months and only ‘just ‘ diagnosed through my own research and then blood tests .
I’d been working out hard all those 6 months as thought it was just hormones as I’m 52 and they say continue exercise .Did I prolong this by working out when extremely tired ? Does anybody else exrcise or is it a no-no ?
Cant wait for this to be over 6 months completely alone dr telling me I need a shrink and Er dr when I told her can’t stay awake said ‘ well you’re awake now ‘ b**** !! What can I do besides healthy eating (which I’ve always done ) to combat this evil virus !!!
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Guava lori93950
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Hi Lori , yes resting is uber important , the best ive got to after 4 yrs is light stretching and now some shopping , i was bed bound for first 2 yrs, i used to be very fit and active,i use a hormone cream it helps , with that. I got mine from ebv ,, pacing is key , and not being stubborn about it , sorry that doc was so rude , unfortunately its often met with ignorance , though some are understanding. <3 Guava
lori93950 Guava
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Guava lori93950
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jackie00198 lori93950
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I can't believe that after all these years and all the publicity this illness has received recently that bone-headed doctors are still advising exercise and shrinks. Exercise can make you a lot worse; of course, it depends how severely ill you are and what you're doing. Gentle yoga may be fine, though I couldn't even do that when I first became ill. Don't worry about what you might or might not have done "wrong" in the past. That's not helpful. Here's the best advice I can give you. Rest, rest, and more rest. Pace yourself, and don't try to push through the fatigue. That can cause you to crash. Some researchers believe that minimizing crashes can maximize your chances for improvement. Do whatever you can to get a good night's sleep, though this can be difficult with ME/CFS. Any doctor who advocates GET (graded exercise therapy) and CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) is not up on lates studies, which have largely debunked these therapies. Some people do improve with certain regimens and drugs. For instance, Jennifer Brea, the filmmaker who made "Unrest" (available on Netflix streaming) is on some anti-virals that help her. But just be aware that there's no accepted treatment yet for ME/CFS other than rest and pacing. Especially, beware of charlatans that try to take advantage of us with very questionable "treatments."
lori93950 jackie00198
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Yes I’ve read read and read ! There is no cure although some people say that Valtrex has helped them .
And I cannot believe there is a pill for EVERYTHING except this ?? It’s not like you can make it to work or live a normal life how many days are lost due to this ?
I don’t think many days are lost if you don’t take Viagra !!
And yes my sleep is sometimes good but the nights it’s awful I’m screwed the next day . Just sit there all day waiting to go to bed !
jackie00198 lori93950
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Yes, Valtrex is one of the anti-virals that helps some, as is Valcyte. It's pretty much hit and miss with these drugs, though, and they can have serious side effects. The reason there is no pill for this illness is because ME/CFS has been stigmatized for years, being called degrading names like the yuppie flu. As a result, there has been little research, though that it changing now. I did laugh at your Viagra remark, so thanks for that. And I know the sleep thing is difficult. I got about 3 hours sleep last night, and here I am, pretending to be a normal human who's typing on my computer.
lori93950 jackie00198
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jackie00198 lori93950
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One thing I've learned with this illness--whenever I'm given a new drug to try, I start with a very low dosage and slowly increase it every 3 to 5 days. This allows the body to adjust and minimizes chance for bad side effects. If drug comes in capsule form, I empty most of capsule out. If it's a tablet, I cut it in fourths. We tend to be very drug sensitive. (You can't do this with time-released drugs.) Of course, if you only have a 7-day supply, this is not possible.
lori93950 jackie00198
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I’m supersentive to medication too ... I always cut pills in half or go for the lowest dose . I’ve felt the worst I’ve ever felt in my life with this so a few side effects I can handle . Not sure if 7 days is enough but I’m going to try it and see.
I’m seeing an immunologist next week so I’ll see what he says about everything .
wknight lori93950
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How did I do it? By educating my body to get use to exercise again. It’s like learning to run a marathon when you can’t walk. Everything had to be done slowly and in tiny steps. I had lots of setbacks along the way, but the reason was always the same I did too much.
I started out with a level of activity that caused me no problems. Then I worked up from that point.
Best of luck it worked for me oh and no special diet either. Had taken me about 2.5 yrs to get here
Guava wknight
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Thats Great wknight, So happy for you!im moving to the beach soon and cant wait to get in the water , i think this will help me! <3 Guava
lori93950 wknight
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That’s great news so happy for you ! And yes I’m trying to cut back on extensive hard workouts but will be sad to lose my ripped body 😢 it’s no good if you don’t feel well but look great is it ?
You got there in the end and gives us all hope ... sometimes we get interruptions in life but we get back on that horse or in your case bike 🙂
KPD lori93950
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Hi Lori. It makes me so mad that some doctors are still suggesting that working out is good for people who suffer from CFS/ME! I do think that light exercise such as walking or yoga is helpful in some circumstances, but it is proven that vigorous exercise will only make symptoms worse.
I can definitely see why you suspected the symptoms were hormonal. I've had CFS since I was 30 and now (as I'm also in my 50s) the symptoms have gotten worse.
The best thing you can do is to address your sleep issues and pace yourself. Even though I wake up exhausted whether I sleep 6 hours or 10 hours, I have a better outlook on life and am able to push just a bit if I've had a good night's sleep. Luckily, i found a doctor who prescribes me something to help promote REM sleep. Good luck to you and keep us posted. KPD
s47448 lori93950
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Hi Lori. I can't speak for EBV but can for CFS. You are still in them crucial early days with a chance of recovery although I'm sure 6 months feeling like you do seems like a very long time.
Over the years I have found that investing in various specialist tests looking into vitamin levels, gut bacteria, food intolerances and bloods are a good place to start. I didn't take any supplements for a long time and wish I started earlier as it has helped dramatically. I mostly feel normal whilst taking supplements along with a clean diet.
Of course we shouldnt just take any old supplements hence finding out what you are insufficient in first. I found that tests at the doctors were not thorough and in depth enough and came back clear so I have periodically found private and online companies that specialise to look deeper who have found deficiencies .
lori93950 s47448
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I’m taking so many pills right now to boost immune system hopefully when things get better I can just take a few instead of 30!!
caroline_74621 lori93950
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I have my daily shot of Aloe Vera which has really helped with my immune system, especially with the colder weather coming in.
I’ve had an intense look at my diet to see what it needs and found I am not taking enough omega 3, so will start taking supplements for this. My plan is to try different supplements to see their effects on my body. But nit multi vitamins.
I know what you mean about exercise. I Love exercising but over the past year even walking up stairs or back to my car has been tiring so I upped my exercise routine, which in turn made me feel worse. I’ve started some yoga moves and stretching in the morning but I’m such an active person that I just can’t sit still.
My friend who has cfs went for cbt and said it was really helpful, especially knowing what she can and can’t push herself to do.
Wish you all the best and a speedy recovery