Labyrinthitis - "brain shifts"??

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Okay this is week 5, my first ever experience of vestibular problems. It started in horrendous fashion - I was swimming om my back and suddenly thought I was having a stroke. The most frightening experience of my life, and quite frankly I'm still traumatised by it. Still haven't managed to summon up the courage to go swimming! After an hour or so of assistance at the poolside, my OH picked me up and I went off home to bed. It seemed to clear within a couple of hours so I went out shopping!

Next day I woke in a right state. It felt like I'd drunk 3 bottles of wine and had the hangover to go with it all at the same time! Doc gave me Stemetil and told me was either BPPV or lab. After a few days of awfulness, I finally realised I felt better if I moved around more - I suppose the start of the compensation process. I didn't feel I had hearing loss but did have the fullness feeling in both ears. I also felt more comfortable sleeping on my right side, and in fact had a further spinning episode just after I had laid down on my left side, so avoided doing so.

I then wondered if it was BPPV rather than lab and pestered my doc to do the Epley. They didn't do it, had to be referred to physio, six week wait, went private!! Wonderful vestibular physio performed the Dix-Halpike and confirmed I didn't have BPPV and didn't need the Epley. Why on earth my doc couldn't do that I don't know! She gave me lots of advice about the condition and showed me some exercises to aid compensation. Since then I'd felt a lot better, apart from having what I describe as brain or head shifts, and lots of pressure in my head especially when I'm tired.

Sadly, since a few days ago, I appear to now be getting worse again. Have actually had some dizzy spells laying down in bed - they had gone completely and I was feeling practically 100%. Is this what I am to expect now? Does anyone else have the strange head sensations that I described? Could I have Vestibular Neuritis rather than Labyrinthitis? When do I go back to my doc - I already feel that she dreads seeing me - have so much else going wrong at the moment! Could the stress I'm suffering because of my health problems be hampering my recovery? So many questions!! Would love to hear from anyone who's story is similar to mine biggrin. MTIA!

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    Another outlook...

    I was diagnosed with Labyrinthitis about 8-9 weeks ago. It was suspected that I had a prior sinus infection but aside from some minor sinus symptoms my main concern was dizziness - namely a swaying/falling sensation - as if I were on a boat. This submissive dizziness has pretty much stayed with me throughout the 9 weeks, but with many other symptoms coming and going and perhaps 1-2 days of complete relief at points, before the dizziness has returned.

    Symptoms that I’ve experience are dizziness, both on standing up and sitting down (although only really occurs when standing still now), extreme tiredness/weakness, fatigue, lightheadedness, brain fog, heavy/muzzy/swirly head, headache, not to mention a shed load of anxiety!  Thankfully, I didn’t seem to experience the spinning vertigo and nausea/vomiting that a lot of others have reported. Neither have I had any hearing loss, Tinnitus, or the fullness that people refer to.

    I've found that my symptoms frequently swap and change, but the dizziness has been constant, varying in intensity. 

    I've not taken any medication throughout this timeframe on the advice it would take longer for me to recover.  However, I have just purchased ‘4head’ for the headaches!

    Just recently, I paid for an ENT consultation and was given VRT exercises to do to retrain my brain and fix the mismatched signals it is receiving from my ear, which I am assured should eventually erase the dizziness. Can't say I am noticing much of an improvement yet however, I did only start them on Monday!  This may be responsible for the new onset of nausea/queasiness I have had for the past 3-4 days as I pretty much avoided this for 9 weeks.

    I am really at my wits end with this now.  I am grateful I haven’t suffered as badly as some people may have but I really am desperate to feel better now. This illness has shot my anxiety through the roof (which is another battle in itself) and its very hard to not withdraw from everyday activities, including work!

    I am wondering if anybody else has experienced such variety and intensity of their symptoms like me? Whether anybody from this forum has yet recovered?

    Looking forward to hearing from you.

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      What you described isbexactly what Ive been exp. i believe this came from a severe sinus infection that I let go for about 6 weeks. Doc gaveme antibiotic and 12 days of prednisone. Felt the best I had in forever (im chronically congested) and then headaches started. Vision got blurry, but fixed itself after about a week. Then i started feeling that feeling of disequilibrium that you described. Ive suffered with it for at least 6-8 weeks, being worse in the middle of this time frame. Couldnt drive or take care of my kids, thought something terrible was wrong. Went to ER 3 times, was told migraines twice and that my neck was stiff and needed a chiropractor. By this point My anxiety was through the roof. My GP put me on antidepressant and anxiety has been much better. I have an ENT and neurologist appts next week, but gave in and went to a Physical therapist while waiting. She believes it is vestibular neuritis, and we have started balance therapy. So far, since feeling like someone listened, i started trying to live life normally again. Started driving, which has gotten easier, and now have ability to look at technology again(that caused terrible disequlibrium). Yesterday wàs the best ive felt inweeks and i actually ran 2 miles, however, these good days come and go. Sometimes i think may be weather pressure related, also took an antihistimine Saturday night and a decongeśtant sunday morning, so i question if they didnt help some. I hope tht everyone finds relief soon! I suggest trying the PT balance exercises (gets worse before getting better) and trying to live life as normally as possible. 
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      Sir /madam,

      I m also having same .I consulte doctor but no use ,can you tell me how to recover from this problem,please guide me

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      I'm facing same problem,so please can suggest how I recover from this problem,give me the guidance of this problem

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    Hi all, I am the OP although under a slightly different user name as I forgot my login details!! Thought it might be useful to give you all an update.

    Two years down the line for me. My experience is similar to Jackies, not suffering too much from spinning, more of a falling sensation. Still I get symptoms, mainly around this time of year I have come to realise, and now wonder whether it's triggered by pollen allergy for me. I don't really get hay fever but my ears have been twingeing, feeling full and I'm having some mild dizziness. Sometimes even watching a screen scroll can trigger it!!

    Us ladies can apparently also have hormone linked episodes, something to do with the balance of hormones in the ear fluid changing. I also get worse when tired and stressed but guess that's down to the brain not wanting to play the compensation game as efficiently as usual.

    My "brain shifts" happen mostly when I'm tired. It's very similar to that feeling you get when you're just dropping off to sleep but suddenly come to again. I also definitely get periods of positional vertigo (BPPV) when I need to do the Epley. That's not supposed to be the case with labyrinthitis, but I believe lab causes the onset of BPPV. Sometimes wonder if I have a mild case of Menieres. I have tinnitus and migraines, but have been tested and have no hearing loss...try telling that to my OH who is fed up of repeating himself!! 

    My understanding is that lab stays with you for life, it's permanent damage to the nerve for which the brain usually learns to compensate eventually. I firmly believe that it's at times when your brain is in overload with stress, other illness, tiredness etc that symptoms start reappearing. A bit of a vicious circle really :0( 

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      Hi D, I'm beginning to think stress has a lot to do with this but how the hell do we avoid it!
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      Hello I am speaking 3 years after my initial labyrinthitis, when symptoms were dreadful. I just wanted to say that for me things are a lot better now and I have a lot more energy to do hobbies etc I still do all my balance exercises, about 8 of them, 3 or 4 times a week as initally given to me by my balance nurse. I do have symptoms now and again but I have energy to do things and enjoy doing things. On this site we all understand how you feel. You are not alone. We wish you well and hope your GP is supportive. I haven't forgotten how awful it can be!!!
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      2 years for me. This sucks they have yet to find anything wrong. I do know I'm not crazy.

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      It seems so much like Migraine Associated Vertigo for which it is best to see an Oto-Neurologist. In UK I recommend Dr. S. Surenthian. He is very thorough and helpful. I am on Gaberpentin which is helping enormously and relieving most of my symptoms

      You can also get a lot of help by joining Migraine Associated Professional on  Facebook 

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    Hi there,

    I am sorry you haven't found permanant relief from your initial symptoms. Thanks for taking the time to update us though. You don't know how many times I've read this particular forum over the past 9 weeks! 

    I had wondered about a seasonal illness as this time last year (thanks to Twitter reminding me of an old status) I was unwell with a nasty cold & flu. I also remember complaining then that it had been a lot worse than previous years. I've also never knowingly suffered with hayfever. 

    I can relate wholely to your point regarding the falling sensation and the "brain shifts". You are absolutely spot on... it does feel similar to dozing off or that falling dream you can sometimes experience before jolting back to reality, but with less intensity.  

    It's interesting that I've found I am very episodic with my symptoms lately. Its like they come & go in waves. I've had a lot of pain over and behind my eyes, like a tension-type headache. I had thought it could be caused by eye strain so, I bought '4head' this morning and I am shocked how much it has already lifted that heavy-headed/muzzy feeling. I feel more awake!  It's also reduced that falling/swaying sensation to more of an "every now and then" degree. 

    I am not sure if you ever consulted an ENT, but I paid for a private appointment at London's Harley Street Clinic 2 weeks ago. I fired him with lots of questions as my worry was that this may never go away, or I'd inherit other disorders. He advised me that there was no increased risk of people who experience Labyrinthitis to contract other disorders such as Meniere's and BPPV. You'd just be very unlucky if you did! 

    He did conclude that recovery from the intial attack can take between 3-12 months. About a third of patients suffered a repeat attack within 2 years and another third within 5 years (both typically through illness or stress as you mentioned) and this could be corrected by performing VRT as/when. That said, only "about 5%" of all he's patients experienced chronic or life long problems with their overall balance and the body can function perfectly well with only 1 balance organ of either ear.

    I am obviously not medically trained, nor have I suffered for as long as you, but I'm not sure if that provides any reassurance.

    As I've had a lot of anxiety with the condition, I am now contemplating taking a low dose of SSRI's (anti-depressants) as there is some evidence that this aids a quicker recovery. 

    I do hope you find some solace in the near future in any case and thanks again for taking the time to respond.  

    Ashley

    smile

    As mentioned in my previous post, I recently had an appointment at the Harley Street Clinic with an ENT (Jonathan Harcourt) who is renound in his field.

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      Hey ash. Did u get and tinnitus asa symptom and did it fade away ??
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    this is a relief.to read I have been suffering for about 3 years with clogged ears and pain in the bridge of my nose.

    I too am back and forth from the docs all saying I have eustachian disorde....

    I seem to feel spaced out all the time and very panicky,I can at times feel like im goin to faint :-(

    I have been referred to ENT and they seem to think its eustachian and chronic rhinositus.

    was put on 6 week anti biotic and steroid drops,seemed to ease a little now im off all that im suffering big style....

    im convinced theres summit more wrong and tell myself its a tumour :-(............

    the last couple nights I have had a funny feeling thro my head it doesn't hurt it just seems to b a fuzz from 1 side ti the next but its enough to scare me.......

    y cant I just believe its what the docs say im giin iut of mind and just want to feel "normal" 

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      Hi Sharon, fact is Doc's can't fix this but as I've had it before and it went after three months, hope for a reprieve soon. Bloody mad that I've got it again though! xxx
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    I am interested in your condition--I too have often experienced weird sensations in my head---as you describe,it feels as if the brain is shifting around---and it is usually associated with feeling of pressure in my ears. Often I feel a bit dizzy when I lie down at night.

    My GP has no suggestions as to what it might be,other than saying it may be due to stress.I don't drink or smoke,have normal blood pressure ( a bit on the low side ),a little overweight,very active.I think that lots of vigorous exercise helps to keep it at bay.Insomnia seems to aggravate it or cause it.

     

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