Labyrinthitis/ Vestibular Neuritis...Please Help

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Hi guys,

First time poster, I hope I can find people that can relate to my condition or help with it. This may be a bit of a long post, I would appreciate it if you would spare some time to read it all.

Condition: Most likely labyrinthits (In my 7th week now)

Background info:

2 months ago at uni when I was in the gym, I was exerting myself doing weights and felt something pop in my left ear. I felt really faint and headed back...over the next few days I had severe vertigo/dizziness/nausea. I also experienced my first anxiety/panic attack when i felt these symptoms, which to be honest felt worse than the actual symptoms. I went to the uni GP and she said I had labyrinthitis (though she did no tests). I also recall not having any flu like symptoms so I'm not sure how it could be viral labyrinthitis. Thankfully all symptoms vanished within 1 week.

Life was back to normal. However 3 weeks later, I was back home for the summer and had been back in the gym for a week or 2 when I felt really lightheaded and faint again. Sometimes I feel like this in the gym when I exert myself so didn't think much of it. I came home however and experienced another anxiety attack. The dizziness/vertigo etc was MUCH LESS severe than the initial attack 3 weeks ago at uni, however it has persisted for coming up to 7 WEEKS now.

Currently:

Over the past 7 weeks, I have had good days and bad days...good hours and bad hours. I went to the local GP who once again said the symptoms matched labyrinthitis without doing any tests. He prescribed some stemetil (which I took only twice as it didn't help and also because I have read everywhere online that it only slows down the recovery from labyrinthitis).

I tried just walking around, passing the ball about with a friend to 'retrain' my brain. However, the symptoms were still in the background and didn't really seem to disappear. But I did feel much better then than I do now.

For the past week, everything seems to have gotten worse. I have spent more time in bed than normal as my friends are on holiday at the moment and I'm not sure if this is the cause? As I'm no longer carrying on with things as normal.

Other info:

Since day 1, I have also had a popping sensation in my left ear every time I swallow.

Head feels heavy. Neck aches. Feel a pressure within my head/ear.

Though I have had anxiety attacks a few times, lately it feels like I'm on the verge of one all the time.

I also have other normal symptoms such as feeling nauseous, tiredness etc.

Very recently, it feels like my vision is a part of the problem too. My eyes feel very heavy and like I cant focus on things. Also, the last few days, I see little flashes of lights which aren't actually there (this has only happened about 3 times in as many days)

Note: I have finally managed to get a specialist ENT appointment, which isnt for another 5 weeks unfortunately, but better than nothing. I'm sure at that point, they will confirm it to be labyrinthitis or something similar as the symptoms all match.

Questions:

Is there anyone else in a similar situation as me? How are you dealing with it?

I have done some generic VRT exercises, but it doesn't seem to help too much. Thoughts about VRT?

What triggers your symptoms? For me it's been hot weather, shower, loud noises, bright lights, dim lights and more (nothing specific).

My anxiety seems to be triggered by anything that I think is abnormal, e.g. sudden tingling somewhere on my body, sudden temporary noise in my ears, sudden temporary dizziness etc etc. All of which is probably normal, but they seem to trigger anxiety when I feel like this. Does this also happen to anyone else?

Are there any tips to control the anxiety? I swear its a lot worse than actual dizziness.

Are there any tips to control the dizziness? Such as VRT or others. Is it better to stay active and feel worse for a short while or should I just stay in bed?

Any other useful information?

WILL THIS EVER END?? I have read some success stories, but will it really take months to years??

Is it also true that even if it goes away, it can come back any time in the future? This is what scares me the most as it seems there is no permanent cure.

I am getting seriously depressed about this as the past 7 weeks have been pure hell, I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy!

Thanks for listening to my rant/story. I am looking forward to hearing back from anyone at all!

Thank you

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    I was getting up fast from a physical therapy table and everything began spinning; I mean really fast and furious. Someone had to walk me home and put me in bed.

    My GP said it was Vestibular Neuritis. I was shown the Elpay maneuver (turlnling head in certain prescribed ways for 1 minute each. After 5 days inside, I went out. While walking I had 2 spinning attacks and stopped to hold onto a building. I felt I could manage. Then, almost 3 weeks after onset, I was sitting up and felt a bubbling or popping, watery feeling in my bad ear. It went on for almost 5 minutes. I felt I'd turned a corner. And I didn't get severe spinning. But, unfortunately, I had a different kind of vertigo. It was a more general sickening dizziness with nausea. I'm still doing the exercise, but will make an appointment with ENT doctor who specializes in ear problems like this. I hope I won't have to wait too long. I had felt I could manage this, and I do plan to go out to the theatre tomorrow if I can. May take a cane. And I can't take the subway (I live in NY) but will take a cab. I don't happen to be having panic attacks--but mentally I am worried. I am normally very active and don't look or feel my age: I am 75. People think I look in my 50's. But when hampered like this from racing around the city and doing lots of chores in one day, I kind of feel 100. The idea of this taking years will color all my days black. But I am a person who perseveres and pushes. I hope I can keep doing that. Even as I write this, I am nauseous. But, having suffered two deaths in my family recently (a son and a husband, from painful cancers), I try to tell myself that this isn't so bad.

    Marion

    • Posted

      Seek out an Otologist to help you with this.  Unless you have simple fluid in the middle ear an ENT won't be much help for you I am afraid.
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      Yes I agree here with Terry, Marion, ENT will probably not be of much help going on your description of events.  if you can, as I know you probably have health i insurance in the US ,,get your GP to skip the ENT and go straight for the Otologist  as they will give you a better diagnosis.  I understand re thenbe thing too , as I am in my mid 60's and  the need to get down to,things sooner rather than later!
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    I don't know if my experience will be of help to you, because I am much older than all of you. I am a young 75--I say that because I walk a mile or two every day (normally), carry heavy packages, go to the gym, take subways and buses and go crazy when I can't get out. But a month or 5 weeks ago, that changed. I was on the table at my physical therapist's for a back problem. As I pulled myself up I got the most horrendous spinning--it was violent. He had to walk me home and put me in bed!  I didn't have much nausea but these spells were bad enough that I stayed inside for about 5 days. I was--and still am--doing the Epley Maneuver for Vest. neuritis. While doing it, I can be very dizzy, but I'm told that's to be expected. I was very down but not depressed or anxious (I deal with depression but it is ender control with meds for years). I was just cranky. After about 2 or 3 weeks, I was sitting down and felt vigorous whooshing and bubbling in my ear (the bad one). It went on and on for minutes. When it was over I felt cured. BUT the next morning I still had it, but the form had changed. Instead of acute spinning, I had dizziness and nausea. This site has helped me, because I was led to believe it would go away in days. Now that I know it's much longer, I have become more active. I walk outside--I live in a busy urban city--and sometimes have a spell of dizziness. I stop and hold onto a building till it goes away. I am pushing myself to do more and more and sometimes forget I have it.

    It seems as if I am getting better--but in increments, not dramatically. I have an ENT appointment in 3 weeks. As I said, I'm feeling better and am living in the moment with that. When I look up, I do get dizzy, or rise from a chair too fast. I am a very determined person. I work at keeping physically and mentally busy as mch as I can. Perhaps it will get worse; I don't know. But for now it seems as if it's phasing out. I will not "awfulize" about the future. I can't afford to or I will give up in despair.

    Two years ago I suffered the deaths of two dearest people in my family. I am probably not over that. But I will never get over that. Amazingly, I did not sick then or while they were sick. I don't think this has anything to do with this VN, which it seems to be. No one knows what triggers it--mostly people say a virus. Everyone around me seems to think I can take a pill and get rid of it. I don't even try to explain. I have to use my energy for important things.

    As I said, my case seems lighter than many of you. But I do think I'm helping myself by disciplining myself not to "awfulize", by trying to move my body when I feel okay, by doing the Elpay maneuver, and by occasionally staring at one spot in front of me as I walk across the floor. When I did this last, I feel no dizziness at all. But I do get more tired than usual. And I've always had a problem sleeping. I'm going to try melatonin. And I HAVE used Valium on and off for sleep, otherwise I'd be up till 2 or 3 AM. I do have to push myself to eat and I don't drink enough water; apparently that's important. But the point is, I PUSH.

    Oh, by the way, at the end of each day--this sounds kind of silly but it helps me--I count off the things I've accomplished.  That includes going to the bank or even calling a friend or helping someone on the street. Do anything you can to keep spirits up. I had stopped listening to music (or doing much of anything when I suffered my losses). Now I've bought a radio for the bedroom and kitchen.

    Good luck. We must all help each other not give in to despair. We are still alive and do not have a fatal disease. That's the end of my rant--I hope parts of it help .

    Marion

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      Hi Marion, I didn't put my age in my post but I am 69 years old and like you very active. I live by myself, well I have a homestay student that I have to cook for, and do all my own grocery shopping, carrying it up flights of stairs to my apartment, go to the gym, swim, walk and generally keep fit every day, even when I wake up and don't really want to do anything.  I like your expression of not "awfulizing" it too much. One of the things people tell me is how well I look and I sometimes bite my tongue to avoid saying how awful I feel that particular day.  I do believe it will go away, but in my case, like so many others, it will take its time.  So I just keep doing what I call, "the shaking head" exercises, and tell my brain to get on with normalizing itself! 
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      Christine, that sounds great. I too live alone now, and everything I do has to be orchestrated by ME. People tell me too how well I look, that I look 20 years young than I am (I do, frankly, it runs in my family), but some days I feel 100. I think my exercise, the Elpay Maneuver, is "shaking head" too.

      I think you and I are the onlly ones who have responded with motivating  suggestions. It could be because many of the younger people have a much worse case. Or maybe we are older and therefore wiser. :-)  

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      Hi Marion.aolder but not necessarily wiser!!  I think the Eplay manoeuvre is specifically for BPPV whereas the. VRT (or shaking head exercises) are designed to retrain the brain and hence the vestibular system to cope with the neuron loss caused by the virus.  I think you can find them online by searching VRT training exercises.  My neuro otologist gave me a sheet with them on and the physio gives me others each week, all designed to retrain the system. The Eplay manoeuvre is to dislodge the crystals that come with BPPV.  

      Yes some days I fell around 100 too, but I don't tell anyone that!

      I love the fact that there is someone else out there that understands what this is like to live with.  

    • Posted

      Likewise: to know someone who understands. Excuse my ignorance, though I've been on the net a lot, what is BPPV again?  And VRT? BTW, the Elpay also moves the head from side to side.

      Marion

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      Hi Marion BPPV is benign paroxysmal positional vertigo, it is thought to be caused by calcium crystals moving in the inner ear and affecting the minute hairs in there so causing the dizziness you feel with this condition,  Vestibular neuritis is totally different and is thought to be caused by a virus to the inner ear and that virus can disturb and/or destroy the neurons that are involved in our balance system. VRT is vestibular rehabilitation therapy used to help to retrain the brain,   Yes, the Eplay manoeuvre moves the head and is thought to assist to move the crystals out of the fine hairs, but the VRT exercises are very different for a different purpose as there are no crystals in this condition, your neurons have been affected.

      VRT exercises are done in a standing position and focusing on a mixed object, say a X On a post it not put on a wall at head height about 3 metres away (I put mine on the wall, or sometimes I just find a stationary object like a light fitting in the gym if I'm doing them there) and then keeping the eyes fixed on the X or whatever you move the head side to side very quickly. You do this for about a minute, have a break, do it again, about three times. Then do up and down so a nodding movement, all the time fixing the eyes on the marker.  You will feel dizzy, Our vestibular system involves the eyes as well as the inner ear mechanism (and our joints of course for balanced) and with Vestibular Neuritis the eyes are not moving at the same time as the head so what happens is you get this imbalance happening and hence the dizzy feeling. The VRT is to retrain the brain.  There are some good links online explaining all, but I also cross examined my specialist and physiotherapist extensively and got all the explanations.  And also I will find the link for the exercises I do and post it on here for you.

      it is a highly specialised field of medicine and you have to make sure you get to the right person to help you.  I think here in Australia we are fortunate with our health care and I am covered financially through Meeicare for all this treatment, physio and specialist.  As I no longer work, I don't know where I would be if I had to pay for it, but I would find the money somewhere I think, as i do think it's important to have support and help with this.

      i will find the link today and post it up here for you and others.  The research on this was done by a specialist in Sweden and he has written papers on it. My specialist did her doctorate with him so I am very lucky I think. She is known here in. Sydney as the guru for vestibular disorders.

      sorry, long post.  Take care.

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    Hello, not sure if this post is too old now.

    What you described here is exactly the same problem I'm currently suffering from. My first symptom was a panic attack, something I had never had before, before this happened I never had any symptoms of anxiety. I had a blocked ear and the doctor told me it was Labrynitis, also viral. I spent 2 weeks at home and strangely noticed feelings of anxiety more than my ears. I have to agree that this was worse than the ear.

    My ear felt blocked and I went to the doctors 3 times until they eventually gave me steroid nasal spray. I suffered at work because I was feeling anxious, foggy thinking. I felt like I couldn't follow a conversation. I also felt it in my eyes as if I couldn't focus. I started to realise that the nose spray helped. I also started to take st johns wart for anxiety and exercise and meditation that helped almost immediately for the anxiety.

    Lately I have to keep popping my ears constantly, opening my jaw wide, massaging around my cheek, yawning anything to unclog it. As soon as I take the nasal spray all the symptoms of anxiety and poor vision disappear instantly. My doctor finally is sending me to an ENT, if you have any feedback on your outcome I would keen to hear. Thanks smile

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    Hi all. So similar to all of you. Suddenly dizzy/vertigo in February after flu. GP's initially said it was anxiety - well yes, I've bben ill for weeks and never like this.

    I'm now into my fourth month and getting nowhere - I've seen an ENT consultant who confirmed no hearing loss but said likely viral labrynthitis. I pointed out there should have been hearing loss with that but it fell on deaf ears (pun intended).

    He has referred me to an audio scientist for balance tests. No MRI or anything yet. 

    I did have full bloods done and aside picking up a slightly underactive thyroid and a benign liver thing (Gilberts Syndrome) all clear. No distress in my system at all. They ran these twice.

    My wife has been close to taking me to A&E a few times and I am pretty much housebound. I can't drive and can barely function. On good days I force myself to walk as far as I can as it seems to ease it. Otherwise I am laying on the sofa most of the day trying stop the vertigo.

    It is the worst period of my life. Early 50's and otherwise good health. 

    I've no idea what to do and just hoping the appt in a week or so gives me some guidance.

    Best wishes to all.

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      Sorry to hear this. I know there are some exercises to help you. Keep  popping your ears to force the Eustachian tube open and move the middle ear. Make sure you do the nose spray with your head tipped forward to force the steroid into the Eustachian tube. The balance exercises are very good. try playing a video game on your phone because this can also retrain your balance. 
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      Hi hannsiepoos, unfortunately I have no meds yet at all. I have battled with the GP's for a referral and seem to be only at the beginning of diagnosis. My suspicion many months ago was it was inner ear but that was rejected. The ENT thinks otherwise but its taken 4 months to get near him. Now another wait forthe balance tests. Ideally I'd like an MRI as well to see if there is anything more sinister but so slow to get anywhere.

      Like many, I'm at my wits end as to how to cope with it. Even sleeping is not as good as it was, the only re-assurance really comes from reading these threads and how others are slowly progressing. 

      Thanks for your reply, much appreciated. 

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      This is really awful. Your doctors should be helping you, not hindering you. I Everything is about dyagnosis. The Epley maneuvers hellped me while I waited for my appointment with the Otalaryngologist (head and neck doc who specialized in ears.) After various tests, eyes, ears, etc, he sent me for Vestibular Therapy. The first two sessions were diagnosing what I had through dizzying tests with masks and turning head this way and that. Seeing that it was BPPV--but in both ears at first--she made me do certain exercises. After about 5 sessions, she said that I need to keep doing the exercises she prescribed at home. There are 6 of them, and they are hard but doable. They make you dizzy at first, and the more you do them, you "correct" or retrain your balance. I'll probably have to do them for a few weeks, and then she thinks I'll be "cured." I believe it, as I see already they are getting easier. Good luck. If you can, I'd see an otalaryngologist, not ENT. Good luck.
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      Sure I understand. I did also use normal nose sprays from the chemist, I know you're not meant too take some for longer than 3 days but some are just saline with sea salt which are more natural, but it gets the movement through the tubes. It took me 6 months to get a referral to an ENT and for some reason GP's don't seem that clued up on it. Some people do neti pots which is water and salt through the nose, this hurts like mad but did help a bit. I found it hard to stop obsessing with it, which is where my anxiety started. You can also try taking some meds to help you relax, I took st johns wort for a month to help relax and it helped. In order to get a referral I had to complain of pain, even though i didn't have pain because doctors need a kick in the butt sometimes to prioritise. Holding your ear stretched out and massaging your ear next your jaw hinge may also help. I would highly recomend the balance exercises, you can find them all over the internet and take 5 or 10 minutes. 
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      I think the balance tests are right for diagnosing. The first and second sessions of my Vestibular therapy had all kinds of balance tests. Some of them make you dizzy, but that's because particles have shifted into the 3 fluid canals. They send messages to the brain; if anything is a bit off, it gets you off balance. By the way, my hearing test showed no hearing loss, but that also helped the therapist.

      If they tell you it's anxiety, it probably IS! But you're anxious because you're dizzy and kept from ordinary movement. This is not just "in your head."  I didn't get anxiety with mine, just impatience to stop feeling nauseous and dizzy. After a 2 1/2 months, I am much better. Half that time I was getting diagnosed and treated and doing exercises. Must to them 3 times a day and they CAN make me dizzy, but that is part of the treatment.

       

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