Lack of sleep following TKR
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Hi, I had a total knee replacement two weeks ago and I am really suffering with lack of sleep. The problem seems to be within fifteen to twenty minutes of being in bed , the continual throbbing pain in my heel / back of ankle . i have been doing the exercises and moving ankle about ( now finished blood thinners yesterday) , pillow under heel ( not behind knee of course) , in fact everything i can think of . It's not easy sleeping on ones back having never done that and wonder when one is able to sleep on non- operative side with a pillow between. I have an appointment with the Physio next Wednesday so will ask . Bruising is quite colourful , even foot at the side is quite black . Pins and needles to foot is annoying, i suppose it will take time for nerves to heal .( Did have some prior to surgery tho due to some peripheral neuropathy, caused by the chemotherapy for breast cancer2016)
I am literally having about two hours sleep at night and to say I'm feeling low is an understatement . Any advice , patient experiences on sleeping would be very much appreciated.
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joan17325 mechele37095
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good morning sweetheart.
After reading your post I can read the desperation in your voice
All the symptoms do go away but there is no set time limit.Everyone is different.Keep doing the exercises even though you think they are doing no good.2 weeks is no time I slept in my reclining chair for 4 weeks surrounded by books ipad and remote controls cos I was only cat napping Oh and a flask of tea as well and some chocolate for when the pain was really bad OK it didn't take the pain away just tasted good LOl Anyway I have had both knees replaced the first one was so bad they had to build the knee socket up with the stuff dentists use for fillings ( hope it doesn't drop out ) lol Second one 6 months after the first cos I wanted all of the pain after the operations to be gone and get on with my life
Its 2 years down the line since my first operation.
You do get better. You can turn over onto your operation side eventually and you will invent the best way for you to do it I tended to put my opposite arm on the headboard and pull myself over at first
The pins and needles in your foot eventually you will get used to it but keep exercising the foot They have cut the nerves in your knee takes time for them to come home lol
They shave a lot of muscle that surrounds the knee when they operate and that never comes back
You now are a member of the 2am cant sleep club but i often just check my phone etc then turn over and go back to sleep and some nights I only have to get up for a wee lol
But the bonus now is I can bend to take the washing out of the machine bend and pick things up off the floor etc and the persistent pain when i walked has gone Start a bucket list of things you're going to do when you're fit or Shopping spree you deserve it after all the pain The only people who understand are those who have had it done According to my consultant he says its the most painful after operation pain one can have Keep your chin up I`m off for my brekky now hugs x
mechele37095 joan17325
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THANK YOU JOAN , THINK I JUST HAD A BIT OF A MELTDOWN !!,
Just was so tired, and build up of everything - should have been in Gran Canaria now , last 4 years had to cancel holidays - surgery for breast cancer and full node clearance ( had positive cells to armpit nodes) , 6 cycles chemotherapy and hospitalised for a few days of every cycle with sepsis, Radiotherapy . Then one kidney stopped functioning ( same side as radiotherapy !!!) ,and had to have kidney out -ouch , then immune problem ( ? affects of aggressive chemo) - then of course problem with mobility/ pain if bone rubbing on bone - hence TkR . dont know about 69 , feel 99 ha ha . Sorry, I'm being self indulgent and know sime far far worse than me - need to kick myself up the butt and stop this self pity - just so tired .
Colleen97531 mechele37095
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Hi there! Lack of sleep is a very real, frustrating part of recovery. I am 10 weeks out from left TKR, and am still struggling with sleep. I can't give you advice, but I can share my experiences and what worked for me.
I found that elevating the leg above heart level worked well for me and reduced the throbbing significantly, which enabled me to get a few hours sleep.
With regards to sleeping on my side, my surgeon said as soon as I felt comfortable to do so, I could. For me, that was around 3 weeks. I still can't manage more than about 1.5 to 2 hours at a time, as my knee starts to throb from the pressure. I purchased a piece of memory foam to put between the knees, which has worked well for me. A pillow was too big, a towel too hard. I tried several things, but the memory foam has worked the best.
Feeling down has also been a very real experience for me too. The frustration of loss of mobility, coupled with the continued discomfort has me crying often!!
Good luck with your recovery. It's a long road, but it does become more bearable as time goes on. For me, it helps just knowing I am not alone in my experiences and feelings.
mechele37095 Colleen97531
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THANK YOU COLLEEN, It's reassuring to read this x x Hope you continue to progress, sending best wishes, Mechele x
Claire1950 mechele37095
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it will be 6 weeks Mon since my surgery to this day i still have trouble sleeping its annoying its like i have restless leg syndrome feels like pins and needles and nothing can seem to touch my leg .. but i can now sleep on my side now but still restless and after trying to sleep all night your knee is so stiff in the morning because you don't move it for hours.. also the bruising will go away i thought the same thing wow my foot was so bruised but it does clear up.. good luck on your recovery it!s long and slow process i keep hearing
Moosn8r mechele37095
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hello, you sound like you've been though ALOT...im so sorry! i am almost 10 weeks post double tkr. I have trouble sleeping more than an hour or two at a time. After the first 2 weeks i started using a very thin pillow under my knees....it seemed to help as i didnt stay in any position for very long. i also did some strengthening exercises, ice, then soaked in tub before bed. Hope you can find what works best for you. Good luck!
mechele37095 Moosn8r
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Oh my goodness, both done together !!!!!!!, cannot begin to imagine that !!! - one brave lady x I knew it would be painful but honestly , not as bad as that . Managed 1.1/2 hrs sleep this afternoon whilst hubby was watching his usual Sunday afternoon footie ! , felt so much better for it despite being brief !
Wishing you a good nights rest, best wishes , Mechele x
lynda49844 mechele37095
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Hi Mechele, Wow, TKR 3 years after BC is a lot to contend with. I guess I was fortunate and had a 10 year gap (lol)
As for sleep, try not to worry about it. I had only 2 hours sleep too for the first few weeks. I remember the sense of elation when I managed 5 hours! I took a bottle of water, a banana and a couple of biscuits up to bed with me plus a good book and the ipad. Nap when you can and find something to do if you're awake. It works better than fretting that you can't sleep and trying to stay awake all day doesn't seem to help at all. I kept a diary of my recovery too, so that I could measure my progression and I downloaded some free Futurelearn courses to do.
To make things more comfortable I found a flattish, soft pillow under the whole of my leg (not just under the knee, but from just under bottom to foot) helped immensely. I needed 2 shaped like a T as I have quite long legs.
You will get through it. The first 2 weeks are the worst, the next 2 are rotten and then it starts to get easier, but we progress at different rates so don't panic if you're experience is different to anyone else. Good luck!
mechele37095 lynda49844
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THANK YOU LYNDA , PRESUME YOU HAD YOUR 10 YR CANCER FREE ( IF THEY SAY THAT) . BECAUSE OF BEING GRADE 3 , THE CHEMO WAS QUITE AGGRESSIVE , BUT COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE. I'VE STARTED CARD MAKING ( NOT VERY GOOD YET HA HA ) , TAKES MY MIND OFF THINGS AT 2,3 am etc
WILL TRY THE PILLOW , WAS TOLD NOT UNDER KNEE BUT IF ITS UNDER FULL LEG , CAN'T SEE THE DIFFERENCE , TAKE CARE MECHELE
lynda49844 mechele37095
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Yes, I was fortunate and it was discovered early so surgery sorted me out and then 10 years tamoxifen. The pillow keeps the leg relatively straight, but just takes the pressure off the knee as it moulds to the shape of the leg. Wishing you all the best for the future.
CHICO_MARX mechele37095
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Here ya go...
Post-TKR Sleep
So totally normal. Will resolve in time...
denise19240 mechele37095
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I'm 12 weeks out right tkr..for the first 6 wks I lived in the recliner, elevate,ice and pain meds, it will get better..I now can sleep in bed with foam between my knees and still pain meds once in awhile and Melatonin!!
Good Luck!
gaynor85245 mechele37095
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Hi I also battled with sleep i eventually got sleeping tablets but i didn't have your heel pain. I wonder if you put a pillow under your your calf, well a little below it, maybe the pillow under your heel is aggravating it? it really does take awhile to be almost normal, just hang in there and keep on doing your excercises, very important. I honestly cant remember when i started to sleep on my side, but I did find sleeping on a recliner much better than a bed. I'm 18 months post TKR, there are very few people that manage to be feeling great after a year never mind two weeks. wishing you all the best.
Gaynor
Basyangel mechele37095
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hi
i am 3 months post op
have heaps of pain and swelling
have not slept in 3 months even with medication and sleeping tablets
lying on my side causes my knee to burn.
lying on my back causes me to snore
Doctors says it can take up to 12 months if so id probaly have jumped off a bridge by then
denise19240 Basyangel
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try heat for 15 minutes, it helps relax nerves.