Living with Recurring Glandular Fever Many people who c...
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Living with Recurring Glandular Fever
Many people who catch glandular fever (Epstein-Barr virus) recover completely, but for a significant minority, like me, the virus hides from the immune system. I believe that this ability was discovered in the late 1960s. I heard of it in a BBC science programme in the early 70s, and immediately recognised my situation.
I caught glandular fever (without complications) in spring 1967 when I was a youth. Those who are affected by recurring symptoms, will recognise my case, where the symptoms receded imperceptibly slowly. It took about 9 months from being infected before I felt more or less normal again - for a while.
I pass on my experience of coping with this condition. There is bad news and good news.
The bad news is that the symptoms recur throughout life - that is for those who have difficulty clearing the original infection. A cure might emerge, but I am assuming that this will not happen. The good news is that, in time, the symptoms become gradually less of a problem.
The bad news is that one needs to adapt one's lifestyle in order to deal with this. The good news is that one can live a normal life. There are many with other lifelong conditions, who are far worse off.
Any virus illness (cold, 'flu) will trigger the symptoms. Something as common as catching a cold runs as follows. One feels unwell (exhausted), with no symptoms. About 2 days later, the cold symptoms start, accompanied with swelling of the glands in the throat and/or cheeks. The swelling is not very noticeable to others. One has a slightly raised temperature, and feels quite ill. After 4 to 10 days, the cold symptoms and swelling subside, but the feeling of exhaustion remains. This can last 4 to 6 weeks, or 6 months after a bout of 'flu.
How can you cope? There are a number of measures.
1) Smoking exacerbates the symptoms. If you are a smoker, you will be one of those who find stopping smoking relatively easy. You will soon learn to avoid smoke-filled places.
2) Should the symptoms start, treat as for a cold, or 'flu. You will feel exhausted, and a good thing to do is to get a lot of sleep.
3) It is worth getting a 'flu vaccination, if you can.
4) Exercise - you won't feel like exercise, and it is wise to rest while the cold symptoms are there. Once they are gone, and the feeling of exhaustion remains, that is the time to resume vigorous exercise. I think it might be the raised body temperature which helps to fight off the symptoms. In the case where you go to the gym, you will have to force yourself against the feeling of exhaustion for the first time, and even the second time, but by the third time, you realise that you are much fitter. The exhaustion will go. Regular exercise helps ward off the problems, and the fitter you are, the better you will manage.
5) Avoid catching colds. You will find that you have become especially susceptible to colds. There are many things involved here, from a good, varied diet, a daily multivitamin/mineral tablet (don't overdose), cough sweets in the bus/train etc.
The best advice, and perhaps the most difficult and lifestyle threatening, is to follow what (great) grandmother told you, "Wrap up warm!" Think how she would say, "Put on your sweater/scarf/hat/woolly socks before you go out!" You think. "It is not cold outside". You know it isn't "Cool", and you don't want your friends to laugh at you.
If the summer weather is really hot, you can get away with fashionable wear. Otherwise, the bad news is that keeping warm maybe "uncool" but if you ignore this, you will suffer. Ideally, you should keep on the verge of perspiring, and if the surrounding air is fresh and cool, that is the ideal. Avoid stuffy environments. Avoid becoming too hot, sweaty and wet, and then getting chilled. However, if you can arrange to change into dry clothes and not become chilled (as when you go to the gym), all well and good!
I found these lifestyle adaptations very unwelcome. You will have to find your own way to cope. Thinking of these matters will help, and you can lead a normal life, with bouts of extreme exhaustion from time to time. Take comfort in that these will become less severe, and maybe less frequent as the years pass. Otherwise, you are quite normal. You can achieve what you are capable of intellectually, and physically. Face up to the occasional difficulties, and be determined to succeed with your life. Epstein-Barr will not prevent you.
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kathleenclare Guest
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I went to London with grandchildren and ended up with swollen glands very sore throat, dreaaful cough..symptoms won't go . Delighted to read similar stories on the site. I am adapting my lifestyle accordingly as a result of these revelations. My daugter has also had it but not quite so badly but we are so glad to read the account and are now being more careful with our health and the way we handle things.
leo64913 Guest
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My questions are about the chances of contagion.
Am I exposed to get the disease too? What kind of care should I take and under what circumstances should I worry? Do I need to avoid kissing her when she shows sympthoms like tiredness and swollen amigdals? Do I need to avoid kissing her for long time after those sympthoms have dissapeared?
Is it that I only need to worry if she make a full episode including whitish spots in her amigdals and high fever, etc?
I haven't found enough reliable information about the contagion in patients with recurrent sympthoms - the info I've found only seems to refer to the first episode and how the patients are contagious during convalescence for several months. But what about all the people who live with the latent virus? How likely are they to pass it to a partner or a child though saliva? Is there a vaccin? Thank you.
123TootsMcgee Guest
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We've just bought a rural property that needs a lot of work and I think I internalize my stress. I love doing outside jobs with my husband, being amongst the trees and animals on our property; but sometimes I can't even bring myself to do anything inside or out.
Before I depress you further, I would like to add that Olive Leaf Extract and the Fusion brand of Astrix 8 (both herbal products) are very good for helping me get through the day and help me feel pretty normal for a while. I use herbal Pain Relief (which is mostly Tumeric, I think), for the times when I am aching too much. I really don't like taking medications. They all help. I have a rash on my chest and face, which is itchy, but I use Sudocrem for that (Zinc Cream with no parabens). My fair skin has always been very sensitive to chemicals.
Hope this helps someone.
teisha11759 Guest
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megan11541 Guest
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Hi,
I was diagnosed in February 2006, when i was only 8. It started with tonsillitis symptoms, then developed, until i collapsed and basically my airway closed up and got rushed into the paediatric a&e. I spent 2 weeks in isolation with IV antibiotics and some other sort of medication that i cant recall.
I had flu like symptoms, along with vomiting (due to the meds), extreme exhaustion, difficulty swallowing and just generally feeling bad.
When i was discharged, I was unable to walk long distances, and was given a wheelchair until i rebuilt my muscles. I couldn't return to school for 5 months, and then i only started with an hour a day, until i could build up. Unfortunately I was at a private school at the time, and couldn't keep up with the demands of moving around for each lesson, carrying a heavy bag and competing in contact and the competitive nature, so i moved to another state small primary to continue my last year and half of primary school- this was obviously hard as i had been at that school since nursery aged 2.
Ever since the day I left hospital I have had back pain, and have been visiting a osteopath each month. He was a great help and helped to drain my lymph nodes throughout my body, he also kept my body in alinement. Being 8 and being limited to exercise it took a toll on my growing and positions. After having treatment at great ormand street, I have since been diagnosed with scoliosis, hypermobility syndrome, with cysts and degenerative disk disease in my lumbar region of my back.
Recent blood tests have shown a chemical imbalance and slight damage to my liver- (i am not an alcoholic). Having the odd drink at university also highlights the issue, as I develop pain in my abdomen and can be violently sick even after one.
After suffering chronic fatigue for approximately 2 years, i started visiting councillors, I don't believe it was depression, however 2 years of feeling awful has its toll.
Once I started secondary school I didn't really have any more symptoms of the fever, however ever since if i get run down (due to a cold, or just over doing it) I have mild glandular fever symptoms.
I am now being 19, at university, training to be a paramedic, and have to complete 12-14 hour night shifts, I have been unwell for approximately 4 weeks out of the 10 weeks of placement so far, however I am thoroughly enjoying it.
I think glandular fever is only fully understood by the people who have had it, I know my case was an extreme version of the illness, however reading above it was comforting to know that others have had a similar experience.
craig07920 megan11541
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Hi Megan,
I was touched and moved to read about your story above, just wanted to say it shows how strong a person you have been to come through such difficult times in your life and with glandular fever. I had glandular fever in my 20s but thankfully didn't suffer all the same problems you have.
I just wanted to say I do believe that you will continue to feel much better as your young life blossoms into your 20s, and that I'm thinking about you and willing for you to be healthy and happy.
If it's any help at all, taking a good strong multi-vitamin and keeping up an intake of vitamins like B complex and immune boosting herbs like siberian ginseng or echinicea over a sustained period really helped me. I would certainly recommend this to anyone suffering from or who has suffered from glandular fever or recurring viruses or feeling run down.
Hang in there Megan, and good luck with your training to be a parademic - sounds like a great thing to do and just willing you good health to be able to manage to prosper in this - I believe you will!!
Take care and best wishes
Craig
megan11541 craig07920
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I will stick in there, yes vitamins help a lot!
I also find natural yogurt helps too, I feel like my stomach becomes very bloated when I am run down and that seems to help a lot.
Thank you for your kind message,
Megan.
craig07920 megan11541
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Hi Megan,
Yes do hang in there things will be okay and I really believe that you will continue to recover and feel better as time goes on. Yogurts are good because they have probiotics in them, would definitely recommend those as these are great for boosting your immune system - sounds to me like you are doing all the right things.
Thinking about you and remember - you WILL get through the tough times and you will be able to lead a normal and active life again - I fully believe that will be the case for you for the future, even if it doesn't always feel like it right now when not always feeling so great.
Take care and hang in there!
Craig
will066 Guest
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My name is William and this is my first post; I was diagnosed with glandular fever at the age of 17. On the day, I was volunteering for some event and as everyone was preparing to leave I started shanking and blacked out. My friends rushed me to the ER and as we arrived there was a team of doctors prepared ready to help me. My friend called in prior to our arrival. After they checked me over and I was dying ha everything was fine but my bloods came back with glandular fever, had no idea what is was id never even heard of it. I remember I got very tried all the time and soreness around my neck. Now I’m 28 and have been diagnosed again by blood work?? I’m very confused!!
Best Regards
William
craig07920 will066
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Hi William,
Just wanted to write a message to offer a bit of reassurance. I'm not an expert in any way so please always go with your doctor's advice. My understanding is that the virus that mostly causes glandular fever is called EBV, and once infected the first time there isn't a second time so to speak you can be infected. It can perhaps reactivate in your system which means maybe the blood levels show up again but essentially you have already had it in your system since 17.
This is a good thing though because it means that your body is much more likely to control is well even if you are having a mini reactivtation of this or whatever. So try not to worry, just take it easy and hopefully recovery will come. There is another virus CMV or something I think which can cause glandular fever, but I think that is rarer so best checking with the doctor if it's that which could cause a different form of illness or glandular fever perhaps.
Anyway, that maybe doesn't make much sense sorry if it doesn't. Again my medical knowledge is limited. What I do believe though is that you will be well again and that this is just a mini relapse for you which can happen with people with glandular fever in their system - so don't worry and just give yourself some time and rest, listen to your body, take a good multi-vitamin to boost your immune system and take the advice of the doctors. You will make a full and great recovery, hang in there. Thinking of you.
Take care
Craig
niamh_05559 Guest
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I had recuring glandular fever from November 2014-March 2015 not just the extreme tiredness and fatigue but constant infections, fevers and severe sore throats. I got rid of it that March and haven't had it for 20 months but this week the sore throat has come back. I know it's glandular fever because the pain and symptoms are so unique and only on the left side- as it always was. Does this mean it will be the same as last time lasting 6 months and being infectious or could it just be that the symptom has recurred without the actual infection?
craig07920 niamh_05559
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Hi Niamh,
So sorry to hear you've had such a terrible time with this, sympathise and I know many others on here have been going through the same.
I think definitely in the first couple of years after being first contracted with glandular fever that your body is very susceptible and vulnerable, if you get symptoms such as painful lymph nodes or even if blood tests show positive for EBV again, I wouldn't panic because the worst is always when you are first infected and these are just mini recurrences which I believe will get less and less in time. When your body takes other colds or viruses during this time it can hit you harder because of the glandular fever, and it may be that in many cases.
Want you to be reassured that you won't have to go through all this again and the fact you are around 2 years post first infection is good news because it means the path from here God willing will be much straighter and not nearly as hard as what you've had to experience up until now. That was my own personal experience anyway, and I strongly believe you will recovery and get there - just take it easy and get plenty of rest during the difficult periods and take a good multi vitamin.
Thinking of you and message any time not feeling great
Craig
benj1975 Guest
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Hi, I had glandular fever 20 years ago I was very sick at the time and was admitted to hospital for two weeks. My liver was messed up and i didnt eat for 2 weeks as a result I lost 15 kilos. Almost every year i get a cold and it floors me every time with the same symptoms as glandular fever but not as severe. I was dating my wife at the time and I'm positive she is a carrier previous boyfriends she had before me contracted the virus within a month of dating her. I seem to get it worse when I've been really busy at work and not sleeping properly. So the only thing i can see is to try to be well rested. I'm glad there is other people with the same problem.
Thanks Ben
craig07920 benj1975
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Hi Ben,
So sorry to hear about this, want you to know I'm thinking about you and hope that you can find the right ways to control and manage this. For me, a good multi-vitamin and immune boosting herbs like siberian ginseng and oregano have helped, as well as Co-enzyme Q10 and B complex, however I know everyone's body is different and reacts differently. Wishing you all the best and hoping and wishing for good health for you.
Craig
benj1975 craig07920
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Have a good xmas.
Ben