LPR and other conditions

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I recently replied to a member in the Hypothyroidism forum who said that since being diagnosed with hypothyroidism and starting treatment their symptoms of constant throat clearing and cough have reduced.  This got me thinking yesterday about whether LPR sufferers have other health conditions in common.  It is is true that an underactive thyroid can cause many symptoms and can affect the mouth and throat mentioned are enlarged scalloped tongue and choking fits. Of course not everyone gets all symptoms.  I would like to know if other LPR sufferers have any of the following which I suffer/or have suffered from.

1.  As mentioned hypothyroidism.  Those with this condition might know that often patients go undiagnosed for ages or are undertreated as GP's tend to go by TSH blood test alone not how the patient feels.  So many but not all even though diagnosed and being treated still don't feel well.

2.  Anxiety and Stress.  This is a big one I think that although it is thought that anxiety does not cause illness it can certainly make it worse. I wonder if can bring on things you are prone to.  

3.  IBS  Another condition make worse by stress.  

4.  Rosacea.  I suffered from this for many years butit has calmed down since the menopause.  It is interesting that triggers for this skin condition which can also affect the eyes(blepharitis which I also have) include stress chocolate,tomatoes.cheese,citrus fruit and and caffeine drinks.  The same things you told to avoid with both normal reflux and LPR.

5.  Migraine I suffered with bad headaches and migraines especially around the time of the menopause.  Once again triggers are the same as for rosacea.  Coffee which is know to bring on migraines as well.  I stopped drinking coffee years ago as I could take it or leave it.  I know lots of people love their coffee.

This had me thinking that as most consultants and gps don't seem to know much about LPR and just give pp's which don't always work and cause side effects (I got IBS flareups) that although dealing with anxiety and stress and diet are important for LPR as well as general health there must be another factor that cause some people to get this problem whlist others don't.  In America it seems that it is very common and has been put down to western processed diet and way of life.  Is it that some of us have more of a chance than others of getting LPR as you get older

Sorry to have gone on a bit, but would love to hear from anyone who like me has these conditions I think there may be a link.  Maybe better treatment of the conditions I mentioned might help.  I hope that one day doctors will treat the whole body and the person not just send them around to different specialists.  If you don't agree or have stated the obvious then my apologies.  My throat is much better and I went back to my choir this morning for the first time since Sept.  I am now off omeprazole and just take the odd gaviscon advance and watch my diet although not as strict as I should be.  Unfortunately having stomach problems due to anitbiotics over Christmas and nystan for oral thrush caused by antibiotics.  Have completed these now so hopefully will see it clear up in the next week or so.  I am now waiting for an ENT app to have me throat looked at.  Good luck to everyone on the forum.

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    Hi, wow interesting reading, I have thyroid issues, Ibs, diverticulitus, gallstones and gallbladder removed. Barretts Oesophagus, Heart murmur, rosacea plus blephitus, buckets full of stress. Breast cancer, found larger than normal modules in throat. And other minor issues. Boarder line vitamin B12 and bone density due to cancer tabs I take. I dread what is next. But strange to see how much of these health issues we share.
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      Hello Thanks for your reply.  Yes It is strange but lots of these conditions do seem in some way connected.  It is hard dealing with so many issues I know you never know what is causing what.  Stress I think is a big problem for many of us.  It is hard not to be with all this going on. I wish you well with everything.
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    Hi libralaby

    I believe these things are definitely linked. Since being ill on 1st jan 2013 I have done a lot of research on the subject of digestion as I started having trouble clearing my throat which then led to the inability to take a deep breath which then led to digestion and ibs problems. I also believe based on my symptoms that I could also have issues with my thyroid and was wondering only a few days ago whether I might have hypothyroidism. I believe I do although my tsh levels fall within the range that my doctor uses. However, I watched a video that advised the range should be a lot smaller so mine definitely falls outside that range. I have been trying to sort out my digestion and killing the yeast overgrowth and parasites that has probably come about from taking too many antibiotics and eating a high sugar diet.

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      Hi Thanks for your reply.  Yes I believe that the labs in the UK use an older range.  Upto around 5 I think.  I too have read more than once that the new range upper limit is around 3 and that the optimum is between 1 and 2.  How does that fit with your results? I assume you still have some symptoms.
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      Yes I have mucus as the back of my throat as we speak. But overall my symptoms are starting to clear one by one. I have had many symptoms which resulted from a leaky gut or as traditional medicine like to call it intestinal permeability. My tsh level is 1.1 - the nhs range is 0.30-5 but apparently should be 1.8-3
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      Hi, Your TSh sounds fine as it is in range but I believe if you have symptoms of hypothyroidsim then you need a full thyroid function test which according to my gp they only do if you are out of range.  My level was 2. something for years but in 2013 it went down to 1. something and 2014 it was.97.  I queried this with my doctor but she said no they often vary but I thought it odd.  I asked could it be that I had been taking VitD3 for 2 years following a wrist fracture when I was found to have low vit D and osteopenia after a dexa scan.  She said nothing to do with it but I have read that those with thryoid problems are often Vit D deficient.  Funny though she looked at my latest result for VitD and then said reduce the dose as it is high enough so I now take 2.200iu every other day.  Will be interesting to see what my test results for both TSH and Vit D are at my next yearly checkup in May.  Just another thing to add to the mix.
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      Oh thanks for that information. It does help to know how others are dealing with things. I will see what my doctor thinks. To be honest for the last week or so my circulation has improved so I'm hoping all the different things I have been doing have been helping my thyroid.
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    Hi libralady, yes I have had a Nissens which as I've said before wasn't successful. My main problem now is my throat. I am also on thyroxine for an under active thyroid. How did you heal your throat?
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      Hi Julie,   I wouldn't say it is 100% better.  My main problem was throat clearing and terrible mucus.  Also a cough and dry throat.  As I said I have not been really strict with diet but I do drink 8.2 ph water.  I have cut down on tea mainly decaf green tea now and I don't like coffee.  

      The other things I cut out are citrus fruits/juice tomatoes and chocolate.

      I did have some things I should not over Christmas and I also had a bad cold which did not help.  I am waiting for a ent app so I expect they will tell me what my throat is like.  I forgot to mention I also have asthma so inhalers can affect the mouth as I have suffered from oral thrush several times over the years.  I still think anxiety and stress is my main enemy.  Thanks for your reply.

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      mouth thrush is the only thing doctors seem to treat when it comes to yeast issues. Could be that you have a yeast overgrowth in your gut which are causing your problems..??? Just a thought. Doctors don't know much about it though.
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      Yes I did say this to my gp some time ago.  Maybe it is a yeast overgrowth in the gut.  Could this be linked to my IBS and anxiety certainly does not help.

      As you say doctors don't seem to know much about it. Am I right in saying that you have to cut out all bread sugar including fruits for a period of time?

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      Yes definitely need to cut out all the food sources of the yeast. No alcohol, vinegar, soy sauce, fermented foods, sugar, fruit and honey. No dried fruits either. But it's only until you start to feel better
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    thanks ingeresting and helpful, can some folk get bit breathless and palipitations as well , as i do seems linked to me>? thanks deib
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