Lumbar puncture - the most painful experience of my life!
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Hi everyone
I am new on here and thought it would be useful for me to gain advice from the experts!
I have been undergoing tests for MS for the last two years following a loss of feeling in my right hand side (my thigh and my right arm mainly) which then went on to be tingling and numbness or tiny electrical pulses which would move up and down my arm. I have had 3 MRI's now and all these have shown are wear and tear on my spine/discs, worse around my neck. I also had a CT scan which was clear and electro-sensitivity tests done at the Oxford Radcliffe which were also clear.
Finally, I was told I would need a lumbar puncture to see if this would give any consise diagnosis. I went in on a Wednesday and was told by the Dr performing the procedure that he had just done one without a local anesthetic and the patient only felt mild discomfort and so he would do the same with me. His comment was 'why have two needles when you can have one'. I did tell him that I had a painful epidural with my last baby but he said that a lumbar puncture was a lot less painful. So I prepared myself for just 'mild discomfort' taking his word for it. The next half an hour (and since then) has been like a nightmare.
As soon as the needle went into my back I felt such unbelievable pain that I was screaming in agony. He continued to dig around trying to get the CSF to come out and this went on for about 10 minutes with no result. The pressure was 1 when this was happening. My husband was holding my hand and he could see the look of terror on my face as it was happening. On a pain scale of 1-10 this was a 100!!! The Dr kept repeating that this had never happened before and he would have to try again, at this point my huband told him that he had to give me a local and I was sobbing. I had two nurses holding me down and telling me not to swear as I was in an open ward.
I was given a local anesthetic and then another lumbar puncture and once again he couldn't get any fluid and the pressure was 1. This was less painful at the point of entry but I had referred pain pretty much everywhere over my body (especially my groin, neck, shoulders and legs) and my right leg was going into spasms when he was digging around touching the nerves. Finally he managed to get the fluid which was coming out very slowly to start with but then started to speed up (thankfully) and the pressure increased to 24. The whole process took just over 30 minutes.
When it was done I was told that I might suffer a mild/moderate headache as the pressure had been low and to lie down for 1.5 hrs which I did. My husband then took me home - I was wobbly but could stand. A few hours later I was lying down on my bed and needed to use the bathroom. As soon as I raised my head an inch it felt like my brain was being forced through my neck and down my body. I actually thought my neck had been removed!! The pressure was unbelievable so I had to stay put. Five days later and no sign of it getting any better and two visits by a GP I was taking into hospital by ambulance. I was in for a week whilst they did various tests and during this time I was given a kidney infection from the catheta and had a reaction to the anti-biotics. I couldn't lie down, sit up or anything - I was hanging over the bed crying and begging the nurse to help me.
Eventually the pressure in my head started to go and I was allowed home. However, now I am back I am suffering from lower back pain, worse pain in my right arm, pain in both of my legs and I have superficial vein thrombosis in my right arm (which is getting worse) from the cannula that was in for 5 days (and only flushed twice).
I am due to go back to work next week after being on maternity leave and have missed the last 3 weeks of being with my son before he started nursery because I've been through all of the above.
I am thinking of complaining to the hospital and wondered if anybody had any useful information that I should be thinking about whilst I pen my letter of complain? In particular, is it normal procedure to carry out a lumbar puncture without a local anesthetic?
Any advice would be very, very much welcome.
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Jacqueline
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I like you am being tested for ms with nothing conclusive being found. I have had MRI, CT and lumbar puncture done under a local. I have never heard of it being done without at least a local as every patient has different pain thresh holds. Im 35 and have being trying to get an official diagnosis for 2 years now. Since my lumbar puncture I loose the feeling in my legs at times, so be prepared for this to happen to you. I do not think what happened to you was an ethical move on the doctors part as he should have been thinking of your comfort. It is hard if your children are young as my youngest daughter was 11 months at the time I started having problems. Hang in there and dont give up, you will feel they are telling you its in your head but as my GP said to me you make yourself feel happy or depressed but you can not make yourself believe you have pain and feelings if they are not there. My GP has taken over my care as they where not satisfied with consultants results. I hope I have helped you.
winchmore
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Winchmore
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afterwards i lay down but generally felt ok drinking caffeine to prevent headache as i was told... slight achey pins and needles in my hips and legs but not too bad. went home 45 min car journey ok but got a little uncomfy where id had it. but the next day.. n 4 days later i could not even sit up in bed. if i was up for more than 2 mins..the pressure in my temples.. then behind my eyes all through my skull n into my jaw was excruciating. pressure immediately relieved when i lay down but felt like i was going to pass out before then! all quite unsettling considering i was supposed to be better now. then the dr finally told me that this problem not being able to sit up was due to having such low blood pressure. n i had to keep drinking caffeine which the hospital failed to tell me! not great addition to the ordeal already. your hospital care does not seem adequate or caring.
chefcolly
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Im needle phobic aswell so when one nurse said to me oh you wont be having the lumber puncher today i turned round and said i think i will, i have siked myself up for today over a week and i will not come back if its not done today.
This all started with a eye sight test at my local optition, i was in for 1 hour 20 mins and she said oh i need you to go straight to your doctor and hand this letter in to be reffered urgently to the hospital! Luckely i had an appointment the same day. I was reffered and seen within 1 week at the eye clinic. They sent me for an MRI scan and i got that within 1 week and then was back at the eye clinic for the results. Shesaid that there was no growth behind the eye and that i needed a lumber puncher to relieve the pressure. I then had to wait 9 weeks to get the lp done! It ended up that i had to complain before i got anywhere.
So thats my story and i hope you enjoyed reading it.!!
Catrina123 chefcolly
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Thanks for reading my story, I am glad I am not alone in my pain
Guest
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I've had five lumbar punctures for recurring meningitis, and my problem from them (or one of them at least, I think) is that I have chronic constipation and can't really feel much in the pelvis area and tops of my legs, and also my lower back.
Anyone else had similar?
Guest
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Well, That's my experience.
Diane_W
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I have hydrocephalus - I have had two shunts fitted but unfortunately I have been suffering for years with terrible dizziness - so much so that I have had to give up work.
The drs. do not seem to be able to find out what the reason for this terrible dizziness is and I have had various tests to find out whether there is a problem with the shunt - and so far no one seems to be able to find anything - which leaves me in a dilemma.
Last week I travelled to J. Radcliffe hospital in Oxford for a lumbar infusion - and like the original person on this forum I suffered excruciating pain - even though I had had local anaesthetic. The needle touched a nerve (or nerves) and I too was crying with pain and was squeezing my partners hand so tightly. I had to lay in the fetal position for about an hour.
Then after the drs had probed around I was told I could stretch out - well my legs went into spasms and then I had cope with the pain in my buttocks - again all this made me cry.
I was informed that the pain would go after a couple of hours - but it didn't and I could barely stand up - we were supposed to be travelling back to Leamington Spa - but we don't have any transport and I knew that I couldn't manage to stand up let alone travel on public transport - so in the end they admitted me overnight. My partner was given a bed roll to lay down on and in the morning we were sent on our way.
I am due to have a cranal infusion this Thursday at the same hospital and I am absolutely dreading it.
Reading the first message - made me want to post this message and I just want to say that I empathise with her.
At the end of the day the drs should show a bit more compassion and understanding. I do not want to be unwell; I am sick of being in pain; no one prepared me for how horrible this proceedure was going to be and I dread to think what the cranal infusion will be like.
Worthers24
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So doing as i was told i was taken home by a family member and on the journey i had to lie flat on the backseat of the car because this enormous pressure filled my head but cleared once i was flat, anyway i thought that would happen at least a few days after and get better but did it heck!! It got worse and a week later i was screaming in pain and i had an ambulance take me back into hospital and once there they had to give me morphine because i could not stand, sit up up or even lie flat without my head feeling like it was going to explode, i was even sick a numerous times due to this pain.
Eventually i had to stay in hosp for 3 weeks, had 12 tabs a day, had a CT scan and i also lost 2 and a half stone! After this i was still bedbound for 3 more weeks due to the same pain but at home with all my medication. The CT scan came back normal but I swear to this day ( which is now 4 years on!) that there is still something wrong......why do i think this?? Because ever since i have bad headaches, a bad back and pain in the area from where it was done, i cannot bend down and say look under a settee as my head fills with pressure, i cannot lie on my front and watch tv as again i get pressure in my head and my hearing slowly fades, i previously drove to wales and whilst driving up a very high mountain my head yet again filled with pressure and mild pain and if im lying in bed and rest my head on the headboard i get pressure and an uncomfortable feeling where my crown meets the back of my head and i have to sit up as though i need to take the weight off it.
I have a holiday abroad booked in september and since this lumbar puncture i have not flown and too be honest it scares the hell out of me incase i have extreme pain from the pressure in my head from the height of flying.
I wish someone could tell me if something is still wrong but doctors just dont seem to wana listen hope i get sum news soon!
sarah50047 Worthers24
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Worthers24 sarah50047
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Hi there,
I went to the doctors once about all the symptoms but she just said she hadnt ever heard of someone suffering with the symptoms i had and that it was probably caused by the neck pain iv been getting and not from the LP, so to be honest i havent been 2 a doctor since about it as i have no faith in them anymore. I cannot remember them telling me a pressure reading as it was so long ago. I still suffer now though, i wake up a lot with a stiff neck and headache, still get a pressure feeling if i put my head down 2 look on the floor for something, also if i knock my head slightly or once i was messing about with my partner and they hit my head with a pillow! The pain i get is ridiculous. My daughter cant even play with my hair for more than 5 mins as it gets really sore and inside feels fuzzy. I know all very strange! Im not sure what the hell it is or if i will ever find out
sarah50047 Worthers24
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It will be worth you going to the opticians and ask for them to look at the back of your eye, the optic disc. if they are swollen They will send you to hospital to see a neurologist. i am like that i can't bend down or i get a pain in my head, same if i hit my head. If your pressure would of been checked they would of told you what it is. pressure is not always checked during a lp. Have a look at iih there is a lot of information out there about the condition on the internet.
winchmore
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