M.E/CFS Experiences - The facts

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According to the ME Association:

"Despite the fact that the Department of Health now accepts ME/CFS as a genuine medical condition, diagnosis can still pose a problem because ME/CFS symptoms are similar to those present in a number of other medical conditions. In addition, there are no examination findings which can confirm the diagnosis. This means there has to be a process of elimination (the exclusion of other conditions) before a diagnosis of ME/CFS can be made.

Several different diagnostic criteria have now been published in the UK, USA and Australia. The CDC criteria (ref: Annals of Internal Medicine, 1994, 121, 953-959) are frequently used when selecting ME/CFS patients for research studies.

However, these criteria have a number of defects (e.g. you have to have been ill for at least six months before CFS is confirmed) and anecdotal reports suggest there are a significant minority of people with genuine ME/CFS who do not have a sufficient number of different symptoms to fulfil the strict CDC definition. Such conditions may have a relevance when selecting people for research studies, but the delaying or withholding of a diagnosis on these grounds can prove to be particularly unhelpful in any individual case, as it can cause problems with employers, schools, benefit claims etc., and quite probably affect the individual's recovery if they are unable take sufficient rest early on and then manage their condition sensibly, rather than having to 'soldier on'. It is known that stress exacerbates the condition. "

According to Dr. David S. Bell, it is truly remarkable that a patient can feel so bad yet look relatively well. In his book The Disease of a Thousand Names [Lyndonville, Pollard Publications, 1991], he has listed the following symptoms for M.E. along with the percentage of M.E. patients who experience them.

The numbers in parentheses are the percentage of CFIDS patients who experience those symptoms.

1. Fatigue (100%) - usually made worse by physical exertion

2. Cognitive function problems (80%)

o attention deficit disorder

o calculation difficulties

o memory disturbance

o spatial disorientation

o frequently saying the wrong word

3. Psychological problems (80%)

o depression

o anxiety

o personality changes, usually a worsening of a previously mild tendency

o emotional lability (mood swings)

o psychosis (1%)

4. Other nervous system problems (100%)

o sleep disturbance

o headaches

o changes in visual acuity

o seizures

o numb or tingling feelings

o disequilibrium

o lightheadedness - feeling "spaced out"

o frequent and unusual nightmares

o difficulty moving your tongue to speak

o ringing in ears

o paralysis

o severe muscle weakness

o blackouts

o intolerance of bright lights

o intolerance of alcohol

o alteration of taste, smell, hearing

o non-restorative sleep

o decreased libido

o twitching muscles ("benign fasciculations"wink

5. Recurrent flu-like illnesses (75%) - often with chronic sore throat

6. Painful lymph nodes - especially on sides of neck and under the arms(60%)

7. Severe nasal and other allergies - often worsening of previous mild problems (40%)

8. Weight changes - usually gain (70%)

9. Muscle and joint aches with tender "trigger points" or Fibromyalgia(65%)

10. Abdominal pain, diarrhea, nausea, intestinal gas - "irritable bowel syndrome" (50%)

11. Low grade fevers or feeling hot often (70%)

12. Night sweats (40%)

13. Heart palpitations (40%)

14. Severe premenstrual syndrome - PMS (70% of women)

15. Rash of herpes simplex or shingles (20%)

16. Uncomfortable or recurrent urination - pain in prostate (20%)

17. Other symptoms:

o rashes

o hair loss

o impotence

o chest pain

o dry eyes and mouth

o cough

o TMJ syndrome

o mitral valve prolapse

o frequent canker sores

o cold hands and feet

o serious rhythm disturbances of the heart

o carpal tunnel syndrome

o pyriform muscle syndrome causing sciatica

o thyroid inflammation

o various cancers (a rare occurrence)

o periodontal (gum) disease

o endometriosis

o easily getting out of breath ("dyspnea on exertion"wink

o symptoms worsened by extremes of temperature

o multiple sensitivities to medicines, food and other substances

A list of CFIDS symptoms is misleading. At first glance it appears that almost every symptom possible is part of the list. This is another reason many physicians have not accepted the reality of CFIDS- there are simply too many symptoms. But a patient relating these symptoms does not list them in a random manner. They fit a precise pattern that is nearly identical from one patient to the next.

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    Thanks for the info. Wolfe - it's really cheered me up! I think I can relate to all those symptoms - except possibly pain in the prostate! No, seriously it made very interesting reading and certainly contained some aspects of the illness that are new to me. Cheers!

    katie.k.

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    hi katie

    Im glad you found it good reading and that it cheered you up, i had M.E for many years before i found this list............ for me i found it very hard to explain my symptons to my doc............therfore i though alot of my symptons were related to other ilness's, but upon reading this list i found they were all related to M.E and gave me peace of mind.

    Jay

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    Thanks so much for taking the time to put all this together. Although I have not been diagnosed yet, I can relate to many of the symptoms but not all of them.

    I am going to tick the ones I have and give it to my doctor and see what happens.

    Thanks again

    Roz[/quote][/list]

  • Posted

    Hi Roz

    Glad to see you took the time to read through and tick your symptons from the list, i know how hard it is to do such simple tasks (mind blocks)but hopefully it will be rewarding for you to atleast know whats going on, hopefully your doctor will take time to learn more about M.E (if he doesnt already) as i know there are still doctors who dismiss M.E as an illness

    Please let me know on the outcome of your consultation

    Jay

  • Posted

    Hi everyone

    Just though id pop this back up as theres a few new ppl on here, i do hope it helps you all to understand ur illness a little better or just to see what others can possibly be suffering from

    Take care

    Jay

  • Posted

    Yes, when I was finally diagnosed at the National ME CEntre I had all 8 of the top criteria for the illness, but I still had every diagnostic test known to man done to rule out anything else.

    The medics would be negligent if they did not do this in case they overlooked something that was more treatable.

    I also have underactive thyroid which gives a lot of the symptoms and so that was masking the ME. When my thyroid was stabilised and I was no better they looked at ME/CFS but not before they tried to fob me off with HRT and anti depressants because of my age.

    Personally I was relieved to pay for my diagnosis as I felt like a ship being tossed around on the sea of medical apathy.

  • Posted

    Hi Everyone

    Thanks Jay. I've now just reminded myself of all my symptoms :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: ! Hee Hee

    But, as we are always saying - ME cannot take away our sense of humour!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    NO WAY!

    Take care

    Katie x:D

  • Posted

    PS

    Hi Jay - wonder why Donna has had to go into hospital?? Hope she hasn't been dragged by that pony again! Or maybe ---- SHE has won the RD cheque and booked herself in for the plastic surgery she mentioned!

    It's ME that needs the facelift!!sad

    Kate x

  • Posted

    Bumping this Topic up for reference. :D
  • Posted

    Aww, thanks Alicia :D

    Knew I could rely on you :wink:

  • Posted

    [quote:d2ac796a4e] I felt like a ship being tossed around on the sea of medical apathy.[/quote:d2ac796a4e]

    I know exactly what you mean Alicia, that is where I am right now with a GP that dismisses ME/CFS, that is a fantastic list Wolfe and I have been ploughing through it (took a while smile ) and ticking most of them off.

    I feel like printing it off in huge poster size and pasting it on my surgery wall, then perhaps some doctors would take notice.

    Kristal

    xx

  • Posted

    I wonder if it would be a good idea if the mods could make this a STICKY, so then it will aways be at or right near the top ???
  • Posted

    Yes, that's a good idea James :D

    I like to be reminded of my symptoms :lol:

  • Posted

    Unfortunately, we don't have that facility on this forum - but I will see what I can do for you
  • Posted

    Chimera, you are always 'seeing what you can do for us'.

    What did we do to deserve you. :cry:

    Feeling rather emotionally fragile atm :wah:

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