Message from a much recovered lady!

I was always an extreme person too! And I still am in studying, thinking etc, I can't seem to slow down ever. I used to be a very running around physically type of person; now my ever active mind is even more active due to the lack of the physical, so I'm still running around in my head. Which is why I can't meditate as I used to, etc.

My doc referred me to a homeopath who got me taking Aurum muriaticum. It's gold, and it makes me happier and calmer.

Some people talk as if it's so easy!

Hey Georgia, yeah i'm like that too. Treated my body like a machine quite frankly. I no longer have the release from the physical activty so get bored and depressed much easier, miss the endorphin high from running. That's great news about the homeopathic treatment. I am awaiting my appointment with the local homeopathic hospital. Maybe they can concoct something for me. Something, anything, lol, doesn't have to be a cure, just something to make me feel better. CFS is relentless, always there 24/7.

Trying Aurum muriaticum can't hurt you! You sound a lot like me and it helps me. All the best when you meet the Homeopath! 

Thanks Georgia. How soon did it work for you, what did you notice happening ? Maybe this is the start of your recovery ?

I haven't recovered yet but I feel happier and more positive!

im certain i did the same thing too i exercised like a demon for two years straight almost everday and now im paying the price

Hey Andrew, so you have CFS ? What are your symptoms ? How old are you ? What was your exercise regimen like ?

I think you should, herbs have been the main reason why I'm so much better than I was! And crystals are made of the same stuff we are but they're purer. They give us energy. I was skeptical too but the first time I picked up a crystal I felt a massive energy boost go throuth me.

There's always each other, we can  pass energy to one another, even when we're not totally well ourselves. And when we pass it on to each other through thought selflessly it comes back to us!

well i have not been diagnosed yet but im pretty sure its cfs or fibro, sympotoms are extreme fatigue,tight muscles, headaches, sleep disturbences ,cold extremities ,brain fog, memory , concentration, frequent urination,im 34 years old ,four days a week i used to run 3 miles then swim one mile then sets of pushups, i know i was pushing myself too hard but i was on a mission to lose weight

another thing is i have something called cushings disease which is an endocrine disorder and some of the symptoms are similiar but i know this is different to what im feeling

Homeopathy isn't herbs! It's completely different. It's a substance in a minute amount, Aurum muriaticum is gold. It doesn't harm or cause allergies as far as I'm aware. What it does is make your immune respond to the tiny substance in positive ways and this makes it work more effectively on your symptoms. I'm a novice but this is what I've gathered.

Placebo ? Well maybe but if it works for people then great. Also if it were quackery do you know the Queen has her own private homeopath ? Personally what IS quackery is the pharmaceudical industry which for the most part suppresses symptoms and retards any chance of healing.

You ought to quote your sources when you claim that something is placebo. It's good academic practice to do so.

And of course big pharmo doesn't want treatment like Homeopathy, Herbalisem, etc to be what we resort to because they'll lose money!

Fidd if you're going to make a strong statement like that you really need to give us the evidence you're talking about!

It seems that the placebo affect is really just a result of bias in nonblinded trials. ie: It only effects the way patients report their health, not objective measure of health.

Here's a new meta-analysis and evidence review for homeopathy.

https://www.nhmrc.gov.au/health-topics/complementary-medicines/homeopathy-review

Here's a summary of it: http://theconversation.com/no-evidence-homeopathy-is-effective-nhmrc-review-25368

The Royal Family probably would have been better off with homeopathy than mainstream medicine for most of their history given the harm that can be done by over-attentive doctors appyling treatments and drugs that they do not really understand the affect of. Medicine is too often worse than nothing - this does not mean that 'nothing' has magic healing powers.

Quite a few of the over the counter meds contain homeopathic herbs of a highly refined nature don't they? Just chemically reproduced in a lab somewhere and of a known quality and specific quality.

Doesn’t part of the Aspirin pill come from the willow plant? (or something like that)

 

Unfortunately I'm too tired to read the reports at the moment. But from the health studying I've been doing with the Open University and therefore reading research papers that include placebos in trials, and from therapies in which when people have faith in the treatment it helps them, I deduce that when we work with a remedy and have hope in it our own bodies do the healing with that prompt.

And as I said above Homeopathy is scientific in that our bodies react to any substance put in our bodies so it's not all in the mind?

They discovered Aspirin in White Willow, you're correct!

It seems that there is an important expectation effect on self-reported outcome measures. This could be viewed as 'hope' improving how people feel, but equally, it could also be view as people wanting to self-report in the manner that they are expected to. Seeing as these sorts of things do not seem to have an affect on more objective measures of health that would be less prone to problems with bias, I do not think it is sensible to assume that there is much in the way of real healing to be gained from 'hope' or positive expectations.

Unless you're a very skeptical person like I am, one who likes to weigh up as much evidence as I possibly can, then be stunned by the effectiveness of something I had little hope in!

Science can be so big headed. Some of the statements scientists come out with, such as claiming things don't exist, aren't true just because they haven't found them out yet! Lol 

Healing medicines have been around since the dawn of man; science is a baby in comparison.

People's symptoms can randomly fluctuate, and some people diagnosed with ME/CFS do go on to recover for reasons which we do not understand. It would be a mistake to just assume that whatever they happened to be doing at the time when they improved was of some real medical value.

I don't think that we should just trust scientists, but we should try to look carefully at the evidence. With homeopathy, the evidence is pretty clear that it is not of any value beyond placebo.

Perhaps they haven't gathered enough evidence yet? Well it does take years and many subjects.