Mirtazapine and sleeping tablets, help needed
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Hi, i am having such problems with my sleep. i have tried herbal sleeping remedies after being refused Zopiclone by the Dr,but they make me have palpitations and feel uneasy all night. I am on 37 1/2 mg of MIRTAZAPINE.
i have tried relaxation tapes etc but they aren't helping. i have in the past bought Zopiclone on line but they dont seem to be prescribing them at the moment. Are there any suggestions for sleeping, i am probably only getting about 2 hours at the moment.
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ian41292 linda78047
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unfortunately the only thing that worked for me when i was at my worst was as you say Zopiclone, i'm guessing your GP wont prescribe as they are very addictive and only supposed to be used in for short periods.
Have you tried mindfulness? i used to find the body scan meditations relaxed me quite a lot and i would sometimes drift off!! There are lots of items about sleep worth reading, the worst thing to do is to lay in bed trying to sleep, it will not happen.
You could ask your Dr if you would be ok on 15mg Mirtazapine as that dose is apparently the most sedative ( i dont know why)
Hope you get sorted soon!!
linda78047 ian41292
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPLY IAN. i want to reduce my tablets but at the moment it would be the worst time. I have tried the mindfulness but still find it hard 'in the moment'. i hope your sleeping is better now.
barbara79178 linda78047
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I'm assuming that you are in the UK? I am in the US.I bought just a generic pharmacy brand of sleep gels that you can buy without a prescription. One sleep gel a night & it has helped me get about 6 hours of sleep.Wish I could sleep longer though but better than a couple of hours . Oh & these are not habit forming . I hope that you can get something similar where you live.
Best of Luck to you .
linda78047 barbara79178
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Thank you for your reply Barbara, yes i n the uk, i seem to have a sensitivity to the over the counter sleep medications unfortunatly as they give me palpitations.
i wish that was the answer.
dennis45764 linda78047
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hello,
i am taking 2 capsule root king sleep tight at night ,it make me sleep through out the night . Previously i have anxiety and insomnia ,now i taking root king and it solve my insomnia.You can buy it from Lazada.
Hope it help you with sleeping problem.
linda78047 dennis45764
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HI dennis, i have looked these up and would be wary of buying things from china.
i cant take the vallerium herb so these would be a definate no at the moment.
But thank you.
toria_07298 linda78047
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have you tried epsom salts in a warm bath? they contain magnesium which helps with anxiety sleep and pain x
linda78047 toria_07298
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yes someone suggested that recently, i have been doing this twice a week.
toria_07298 linda78047
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i use them every evening they really calm me x
barbara79178 toria_07298
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wow do they really??? I'll have to try
KennyoFatoBoiyo linda78047
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Linda Zopliclone is bad news and addicting and causes gaba receptor down regulation just like benzos and it stops working after just a few weeks. There are better "herbal" remedies for sleep which work much better long term and arent highly addictive like Zopliclone.
Also try supplementing with Vitamin D3 between 1000IU-4000IUs per day.
linda78047 KennyoFatoBoiyo
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HI kenny, i am in the uk, are there any herbal S.tablets you can name. i do seem to have a sensitivity to a lot of medications and some give me palpatations which when taken before bed can be very frightening and then I DONT SLEEP.
I dont know which are suitable to take with my 37 1/2 mg of Mirtazapine, and feel very on my own. I have been taking a multi vitamin but that gives me constipation, even though i do excersice and drink about 2 ltrs of water everyday. The doctor gave ke propanalol to take when I need to for anxiety but these aren't without side effects. I am not a hypercondriack and my mother had the same sort of problems with her meds.
I just need some sleep !!
KennyoFatoBoiyo linda78047
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Linda the issue is sleeping tablets make whatever Insomnia you originally had 10x worse. Theres a rebound effect.
Ill send you a PM.
nikos16266 linda78047
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Linda, you can try alprazolame. It helped me getting some extra hours of sleep when in my worst days. i used it while I was on mirtazapine. it is considered less addictive. After months of using it, I stopped it without any problem AT ALL. When bad emotions and thoughts are gone, you will be able to sleep like you used before. Meanwhile, please bear in mind that nothing bad will happen to you if you do not sleep well for sometime. It is ok. my adventure lasted a year.
linda78047 nikos16266
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Thank you for your reply Nikos, is this used in the u.k. i am feeling so exhausted which definatly makes my anxiety a whole lot worse. I know its hard for everyone. x i have just looked it up and its a benzo which my doctor will not prescribe.
KennyoFatoBoiyo linda78047
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Alprazolam is Xanax and is a benzodiazepine and most definitely not safe. If you become dependant on it like many due its withdrawal is worse than heroin. Trust me i know this first hand steer clear of benzos. If you are in a legal state or country you would be much better suited using medical cannabis. It works more consistently anyways and isnt massively addictive like benzos or Z drugs.
barbara79178 KennyoFatoBoiyo
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Kenny can i ask you..... how much xanax or whatever benzo you were on-how much were you taking daily & for how long?
I'm sorry that you had such an awful time
KennyoFatoBoiyo barbara79178
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Hi Barbara,
i was on Clonazepam (Klonopin) which is about equal potency and I had been on between 1mg to 1.5mgs for around 3 months and before that would occasionally take 1 x 0.5mg if i had insomnia but it only made the existing insomnia much much worse. I started tapering off of benzos in 2016 and about halfway through my taper switched over to Diazepam (Valium) as its easier to taper.
All benzos though are evil they damage receptors in your brain leading to an imbalance between gaba and glutamate
barbara79178 KennyoFatoBoiyo
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wow you know so much. THANK YOU. This is the stuff i need to know. Unfortunetly, they help me so much right now.
Thanks again for the info.