Mirtazapine Facebook Group
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Can someone who runs the nice Facebook mirt group please let me know what it is called. I used to be a member 2 years ago but left Facebook. I wanted to try and taper off mirr again after an unsuccessful try 2 years ago that triggered anxiety that Ive just come through but i want off this drug as its been almost 7 years i have taken it and its caused my health to deteriorate badly and my mental state. I know people may say but look how bad your anxiety went when you slowly tappered and yea that is true it got worse but i think that was purely withdrawal and that it was my underlying anxiety state coming through again because honestly my anxiety was never as bad as it has been these 2 years after i tried to withdraw and now i have depression too so i want off as it isn't helping wither condition.
I was on 15mg. i got down to 11.5 when the anixety hit hard with severe panic attacks that led to 12 months of horrendous anxiety and panic. That was all of 2018. I am now in a bit of a better place hut my anxiety has never gone down to where it was prior to withdrawal. but i no longer have 12 hour panic attacks, every single day like i had in 2018. Now it is more like general anxiety every day. Anyway, I want to try again even slower. I was withdrawing by 0.5mg every 2-3 weeks so i plan to go slower. I went back up to 13.7 by mid 2018 to see if it helped from the 11.5 I got down to, doing 0.25mg increases that year and i have stayed on that dose since.
I would love to join that group again if anyone can point me in their direction please.
Thank you
Julie
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Sykiatrylies julie33695
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From the many, many books i have read, a 50% reduction is too much, too fast.
Most experts say to TAPER 10% each month.. if not you will have REBOUND
anxiety and rebound depression.
Too bad these drugs cause weight gain. Men and women.. Men prefer women
with great figures. Narrow at the waist. Noticeable up top. Curvy, yet slender.
Taper very slowly.. even 5% each month to make sure there is no rebound.
Best to you. Bless.
julie33695 Sykiatrylies
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Hello,
I am doing a 1.5% taper not 50%, less than 2% haha. Very slow afteermy last taper was 2.5% and it didnt go well.
toria_07298 Sykiatrylies
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it drops off when you come off though 😃
llorc toria_07298
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Dear TORIA and others. A fter 2 nights with 2 hours sleep and 1 night with no sleep, yesterday I had a day of excruciating anxiety., Last night I resorted to taking 1 mg of a benzodyzapine and I did get several hours of broken sleep.
Since I quit the Mirt, I can only get 2 hours of sleep, sometimes naturally, when I am exhausted. Phenergen worked sometimes but no more. I was prescribed clonazapine and xanax by different psychiatrists for the anxiety. You know how addictive they are. I desperately try not to take them and have usually not taken more than .5mg a day. I know SKIATRYL says they ruined him. I feel Mirtazipine has ruined me.
I have zopiclone but can only use it occasionally and it doesnt always work
If it takes months to get natural sleep back after MIRT how will I survive. The choice seems to be - never sleep or take some awful addictive drug.
How did you and others survive.
toria_07298 llorc
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hey, bless you 😦 try if you can to stick to the zopiclone rather than the benzos, i know how hard insomnia is! have you tried the epsom salts? x
llorc toria_07298
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i am using epsom salts Do you think ZOPICLONE much safer than benzo
Were u able to live with totally sleepless nights or did u always get at least some natural sleep OR WHAT DID YOU USEDont know what I would do if I couldnt message you THANKS A MILLION
Sykiatrylies llorc
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Dear llorc.
Do not fear.You will be okay.You will be fine.I want to
tell you, a neurologist prescribed me Klonopin (Clonazapam),
and I took it every night for 25 years.Yes, 25 years.It was
usually helpful for sleep. It is a Benzodiazepine. They do give
it to Epileptics. It calms the electricity in the brain. I did okay,
on that drug. I was able to work and have a satisfying career.
Before the use of Klonopin, I took several medicines for sleep.
Also, i went 20 nights with zero sleep, and i survived. No one
dies from insomnia, so be courageous and know you will get
better through time. Work with your doctors.Stay active.
I did many things to help insomnia. Exercise, hot bath 2 hours
before bed. De-caf coffee. Not much alcohol.A cool sleeping
environment. Too hot of a room, or bed makes it more difficult
to sleep. Read everything you can about making everything
better for sleep. Working and being occupied really helped me
also. Being around fun people helped me too. Remember,
everyone is different. Some people need 11 hours of sleep, and
some only 3 hours. We all are different. The former president
Bill Clinton only slept about 4 hours a night. The idea is to
assure you, that you will be fine in the long run. Work with your
doctors. Be confident. You will conquer over time. Stay active.
Bless you. .. keep people informed. You will overcome !
love
toria_07298 llorc
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i think its the lesser of 2 evils and if it helps you get a few hours so be it, its not forever! some nights i would have zero sleep, some night 1 or 2 hours, and then it slowly slowly improved x
Sykiatrylies toria_07298
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I trusted my neurologist. He was super intelligent. Very caring. He knew
exactly the right medicine to be on. I studied and studied all side effects, etc.
I had no choice but to take the medicine and trust him.He did add Mirtazapine
to Klonopin for sleep. I did help. He told me never to take more than
15 mg. 15 mg or less helps sleep. More than that per night, he said would
make the insomnia worse.. I never took more than 15 mg.. and did better on 7.5
per night. I took it for two years, then ween down and off because of sexual
side effects. I felt good sex was far more important than an extra hour or two
of sleep.
toria_07298 Sykiatrylies
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my doctors are letting me taper how i want as theyve admitted i know more than them about withdrawal etc
joan30284 toria_07298
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For some reaseon I took 15mg last night and not a minute sleep.I think I do better on 0.05 mg of zanax for sleep and Celexa in the morning.I have an appointment on the 28 of Jan....I may stom the Remeron.
llorc Sykiatrylies
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thanks so much I do find the lack of sleep hard and scary
llorc toria_07298
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THANKS SO MUCH
toria_07298 llorc
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❤️ anytime x
Sykiatrylies joan30284
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Joan.
Everyone is different... Xanax was Horrendous for me.That drug was bad. It
has a very, very short life. For some people it works okay.. It is VERY physically
addicting.. Changing brain chemistry... But i have talked with people that it helps..
I do not know anything about Celexa. Is it an anti - depressant ? ?
Remeron helps me sleep a little better.. maybe 20 % better..
Insomnia is not fun... I have learned to live with it, and do many chores around
the house if i wake up early.. which is about 4 am... I get about 5 hours of broken
sleep.. Maybe i will get better through time.. Doctors have said it is LONG process..
Think long term..
xox
Sykiatrylies toria_07298
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toria
Great... this happened to me with several doctors.. they do not know how
to taper off many psyche drugs... NO IDEA... Few do though.. I do know, that
a slow, slow taper is the most sure way for most everyone... but we all are different..
The general rule is 10% per month. i am currently going slower then that..
have been tapering for one year,, and maybe one year to go... .. have to go day to
day... month to month.. .. reading Heather Ashton is extremely helpful... VERY !
joan30284 Sykiatrylies
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Thank you.I reallly dont want to take the Zanax,I have heard of the lasting side effects.This is a long process we have to cope with.I will give this more thought on taking the Zanax....Xx
joan30284 Sykiatrylies
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Celexa is an antidepressant and angziety medicine.I am not sure if it wirks well.though.My doctor addled the Mirt with the Celexa.I feel a bit nauseated in the morning and not sure I like the way it makes me feel.I think this is a hit or miss on the antidepressants on different people.Xx
llorc Sykiatrylies
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was it xanax that caused your insomnia or is it natural to you. YOU probably explained in an earlier post but I cant find it now
llorc toria_07298
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just seen my gp who says sleep is the most important thing she has given me another prescription for zopiclone She says use it every night to try to break the pattern I am in Of course she thinks its partly psychological but I am sure it is not She hasnt come across mirt withdrawel before I an happy to use Zop every night but I have found it doesnt work well if you do that
THANKS FOR LISTENING
toria_07298 llorc
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thats good! your gp doesnt know much, i started my own mirt withdrawal support group on facebook to help people, so plenty go through it x