Mirtazapine withdrawal dilemma - advice needed please?
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I started withdrawing from Mirtazapine back in Jan of this year, from 7.5mg. I got the liquid version and tapered down by 0.5ml (.75mg) initially every week, but had to stop that and start by dropping a day a week as I got withdrawals etc. I have been doing very well and was able to drop back to dropping it over 4-5 weeks. I got down to 0.1.5ml and the withdrawals kicked in, nausea, anxiety, sleep problems, cramps, etc etc. I stayed where I was for a few weeks but as things didn't really improve I continued to drop down to 0.1ml. During this time I have had some ok days and some awful days. Yesterday and today have been awful, dreadful low mood, very tired, anxiety and horrid nausea again.
My question is, initially I was going to go down to 0.5ml then taper off that to nothing, but the thought of another 3 months before being off it completely terrifies me. I am thinking about starting to taper off 1 night a week, over the next 7 weeks at the 0.1ml, but wonder if the withdrawals will be worse than ever!
id appreciate some advice. I have done the taper so ridiculously slowly, that I am now just fed up with the whole thing, and want to get back to normal again.
i was initially put on it as in Feb last year I had the flu, and was left with anxiety, my GP then prescribed Propranolol which gave me insomnia, and so it went on from there! The Mirt only made me sleep in the first week on being on it. I started it in June 2013, so been on it just over a year and have been withdrawing from it since Jan this year.
Any advice appreciated.
thanks
Jo x
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norma72045 jo97038
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jo97038
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thanks for for your reply.
i understand what you are saying but my GP isn't very supportive, doesn't believe their are withdrawals etc etc and has said she is reluctant to prescribe anymore liquid after Oct, as I will have had the liquid version for 12 months by then. I did try and withdraw last year from it using liquid but had to stop and used tablets again. It was only in Jan/Feb of this year that I used liquid again. She says she's never heard of anyone withdrawing so slowly before!
I struggle to understand that GP's who are paid roughly £100k per year fail to understand that if you put a drug into your system that's mind altering, will not cause any withdrawals when they stop it!
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manuelmanuel norma72045
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jo97038 manuelmanuel
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i see you have suggested to others 10% every two weeks! but now that I'm down to 0.1ml it's very hard to do that. Should I do 0.02ml every two weeks then? On the 1ml syringe there are 4 or 5 notches between each 0.1ml marker, so I could drop to each one of those? What do you think?
manuelmanuel jo97038
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manuelmanuel jo97038
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jo97038 manuelmanuel
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Thanks for your replies & info. I spoke to CITA yesterday & they have advised to stop 1 day each week at the 0.1ml over 7 weeks or 14 depending on how I go on. Last night was my first night of nothing, not too bad just very tired today.
Got some meds for nausea from doctor yesterday too but haven't needed them today.
Thanks again
Jo
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jo97038 manuelmanuel
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well done for getting down to 7.5mg, and for finding a compounding pharmacy who'll help you too. It is easier using the oral solution and more accurate too.
take care
norma72045 jo97038
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London_ridge jo97038
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ive had a very hard time coming off the remeron as well. I've tried twice and twice I had to go back on it.
I can't remember who it was but someone posted they had no withdrawls and the way they tapered off was to go every other night for a month. So I'm at 15 right now so I've just started every other night and this week has actually been ok. No sickness and I've been sleeping. They went on to say that after a month they went every third day. Then two weeks twice a week. I really wish I could find the post, but I can't.
i don't want to lead you in the wrong direction but since I've tried twice weaning and it didn't work for me, I'm trying the every other night and seeing if that will work for me.
just a thought.
My withdrawal symptoms never hit me till I was off the remeron for about a full week or ten days. Then it came on like gang busters.
im sure hope I can get off this time!
im wishing you much luck.....I'm not saying every other night is for you, trust your body. So far, it is working for me and I'm going to post again when I have a month of it under my belt.
manuelmanuel London_ridge
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jo97038 London_ridge
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thanks for your reply. I've also tried twice before and failed. I have to do it this time, it's taken me all year to get this far! When you've weaned before what was your final dose each time before stopping, if you don't mind me asking? Good luck with this method, I really hope it's successful!
jo x
norma72045 manuelmanuel
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Mirtazapine depletes:
Vitamin B6, vitamin C, vitamin D, coenzyme Q10, and sodium.
"People are not Drug-Deficient! They are nutritionally deficient! If any drug is going to deplete your nutritional reserves, then a doctor should tell you what to take to counter this depletion. If not, he is causing HARM to your body! This is against the Hippocratic Oath all doctors take - "First Do No Harm!"
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Sal60 manuelmanuel
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I've been on Vitamin D suppliments for three months as I was very deficient and have been on various doses of Mirtazapine for years; never more than 15mg and was on half a tablet all last year. I'm doing it really slowly!
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jo97038 manuelmanuel
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This is very helpful info. I take a good multi vitamin is this enough?
Jo
manuelmanuel Sal60
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Vitamin A through your diet, in the form of colorful vegetables
Vitamin D through daily sun exposure on your skin! ( 15 minutes 3 days a week on legs and arms are more than enough, without ANY protection)
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teresa21490 London_ridge
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i realise it's four months since you posed on tapering off mirt can you tell me if you were successful using this method
thanks teresa
norma72045 teresa21490
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teresa21490 norma72045
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happy new year to you to
London_ridge teresa21490
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yes I've been off mirt since oct 15 th. Some days were worse than others. I needed anti nausea meds. I liked Zofran. Also I took a small amount of benzo, for anxiety. Did have trouble sleeping. Had problems with a UTI that seemed to go on forever. Would get rid of it and then it came back twice more. I found the physical effects to be much harder than any mental anguish although at times I felt somewhat depressed, more anxiety for me.
i had to get off it this time because it was pooping out for me and the muscle aches while I was on it, at the end were very bad, in my hips and legs, and yes that did go away! 😀
im still having off days and I think my brain is trying to get everything back into normal patterns.
in the beginning of my WD the early morning wake up with panic was the worst part for me but slowly has gotten better ....on occasion still have an early wake with anxiety maybe twice a week.
it takes patience...I did have some good days thrown in along the way. Some people say it comes in waves and I agree. I hope I've help you in some way.
cheers to good health!
London_ridge teresa21490
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yes I did successfully get off the mirt and I used the chart CITA recommends. I hear you can call and even email them. I live in the states so although I didn't contact them directly, some of WD buddies did contact CITA and they offer the best advice. I'm so grateful I met such wonderful people on this site who really help cheer me while WD themselves. They actually helped much more than my doctor who " has never heard of mirt withdrawal"....I had more than one doctor, who looked at me like I was reporting an UFO.
You can get off this stuff but for some it's a struggle...good luck keep posting and Hi.....to Norma !
teresa21490 London_ridge
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thank you for your reply. I have not been on mirt for long but my plan is to try and stay on it short term maybe 6 months as I have read that it is easier to withdraw the shorter you are on it.
I am on 15 mgs and hope to stay on that dose all being well. I guess i will try and withdraw very slowly over three months.
Well done to you for successfully getting off the drug and being happy and now helping others
thank god there is a forum like this one so we can reach out to others
norma72045 teresa21490
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Ignore the post above teresa, I never noticed you found her, I'm glad you did. Take Care
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