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valerie48279
valerie48279

does anyone find that the mornings are more hellish than the later times. I am back on the venlafaxine having tried to come off . I take my meds in the morning and am starting to feel better in the days (still hard ) But can start to see some improvement. But the mornings are hell. Is that because of when I take the meds or because that is the last thing to improve. Any experiences?

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  • susan95391
    susan95391 valerie48279

    Posted

    Hi Valerie,

    well im just about to share your experience I'm sure as after reducing my Venlafaxine over the last 6 months and then changing onto trazadone 3 weeks ago, I am going to start back on the Venlafaxine tomorrow.  It has been a horrendous time literally and had the psych nurse visiting me twice a week. I am under no illusions of how much worse it could get and my past experience reminds me that the mornings (diurnal

    variation) are always the worst.  What dosage are you starting back on? I will initially  be taking 75mg and building up to 300mg again.  I hope things improve for you, these are difficult times, 

    Kind regards, Susan.

  • anne240
    anne240 valerie48279

    Posted

    yes mornings always worse for me, always.  I have come off Venlafaxine after 20 years on anti depressants.  Took me months to come off as I did not want any withdrawal symptoms.  Been just over a year now.  My mornings still not too good though as I have mild anxiety, but depression only there in the background now.  I tried taking my medication at different times, but it did not make any difference to me.
  • Sxx
    Sxx valerie48279

    Posted

    I think it is a symptom of depression/anxiety with alot of sufferers that it is always worse in the mornings. I've been battling for years and it hasn't really changed. I was on twice daily 75mg venlafaxine (can't take more) and as I had side effects my pdoc wanted me to cut down. Within a week of taking 75mgs mornings and 37.50mgs evenings the pain in my legs (felt like a cross between nettles and barbed wire) was nearly over. I have arthritis and the docs. said it was that causing the problem. Bliss to be able to walk to the end of the road again. I tried twice daily 37.50mgs but don't think that is enough so I'm sticking to this dose  and hope to be able to start light treatment within a couple of weeks.

    I hope your mornings improve but I suppose late afternoons and evenings are better than nothing.

    take care

    SWx

    • froggy2
      froggy2 Sxx

      Posted

      Q.

      Is it a case of timing?

      I sometimes forgot when to take VF, so started to get the brain zaps late afternoon . I would take the med and as long as the med worked before say 9pm, then I got a better sleep and therefore better morning.

      I go thru a lot of sleep deprivation due to constant running thru problems memories etc. Nights of staring at the walls, and fading away then fading in at 4am ..

      ALSO when I ran out of VF during rest - either during Saturday or weeknight, I would get some weird dreams - not bad as such but one of the weirdest was that my task to defend someones home was to seal the doors. We found some magic way that we later discovered involved using the energy of a giant mushroom just outside the door.. only it was too far for the other side of the home, but we finally discovered that urine fixed that problem. Don't ask any more cause that was the best of the dream. I'm sure it wasn't cola, or chocolate, or alchohol based.

      I don't know if thats even Depression or something else.

      The way Australian politics are going these days, someone who has these type of dreams could be Prime Minister.

    • Sxx
      Sxx froggy2

      Posted

      Hi Froggy,

      I have re-joined Patient's uk, after stopping. I think I use this and another mh forum I'm on too much. Anyway I'm back. I don't know whether taking the venlafaxine at a different time will change things. I take slow release capsules. 75mg in the morning and 37.50 evening. I wonder if swapping round would make any difference to the really bad mornings. Scared, so stressed every nerve in my body tense. I am a senior citizen and use that as an excuse to take 1,25mg oxazepam. I need a bit of quality of life and try not to worry about addictions.

      I know that you aren't supposed to keep changing when you take an ad as it "upsets" your brain.

      I live in Holland..(ex pat)  How's Australia?

      SWx

       

    • froggy2
      froggy2 Sxx

      Posted

      Funny! my brother worked in Eindhoven for 5 years

      Mate, Aussie would make you more depressed than you are already.

      Don't go back! I'm seriously thinking of going to the land of the K-pop cause a country under *real* siege instead of press-siege is much more positive than where Aussie stands at the moment.

      Yes the brain gets upset, but the question I asked myself is why am I taking something that affects my brain so much.

      I am now enjoying eating food. I am looking forward to having a Chicken/Cheese/Lettuce sandwich in a couple of hours.

      Before I was just taking on fuel as it were..

  • helen62899
    helen62899 valerie48279

    Posted

    Hi valarie.

    Take it at night. Venlaflaxine has a sedative effect and you get a goid nights sleep and wake up with the meds in your system.

    You have to fiddle with when to take it....i had mine at around 7pm with my evening meal n went to bed at 10. i was sleepy but not incapacitated! 

    If you have XL it then releases in the day and you aren't coming down in the day when most stresses in life happen! 

    Helen 

  • valerie48279
    valerie48279

    Posted

    Well to update you.  I have been on 75mg now for 2 weeks and panic getting less. However still feeling very depressed. Am going to drs for review later and wondering whether I should up the dose until I can cope (did that last time) and then reduce again or persevere and hope I can kick the depression now the anxietys less. Thoughts? Also am suffering with my back again which triggers my mood.
    • anne240
      anne240 valerie48279

      Posted

      Valerie see what the doctor says about upping your dose.  Let us know what he says.  I was on 150mg daily for years, and it worked very well for me.  Know all too well about bad back too. !!  I found the 250mg dose worked really well for anxiety and depression.  
    • valerie48279
      valerie48279 anne240

      Posted

      Did you mean 250g dose worked well for anxiety and depression?
  • helen62899
    helen62899 valerie48279

    Posted

    Hi valerie,

    I used 225mg XL (at night) for both anxiety and depression. My dose was slowly increased as 225mg is considered to be the theraputic dose for treating both anxiety and depression together.

    I was upped to 300mg for a short period but found myself really sluggish on it and reduced back to 225mg and had diazepam (2mg) on my really bad days of anxiety. This suited me really quite well.

    Goood luck and be patient! You need to slowly increase your dose to minimse the side effects you can suffer from taking it. In around 3 weeks things will start to seem a lot less of an uphill struggle.

    Helen

     

  • jaye76671
    jaye76671 valerie48279

    Posted

    Hi ive been off for 6mths an beleive im still feelin withdrwal an i 2 have hell in the mornings confusion hard out
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