MS without lesions? Is it possible?

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Hey all.

I've posted all over this site for possible reasons such as fibromyalgia and neuropathy; and spine; and MS; and now my neurologist has me back to MS.

I always felt like I matched the symptoms anyway (vertigo, blurred vision, gait disturbance, electric shock) but after a years worth of testing, this is my last stop - spinal tap.

There have been no lesions on my brain or entire spine and my neuro told me today that she is basically lost. She said that I'm in the age group for MS so that's what she's looking at.

I'm disheartened as its been an extremely tiring and long year. I've had so many tests.

Does anyone else have experience with no lesions but possible MS? I have no one in my family with MS either.

Any input would be appreciated. Thanks.

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    I am somewhat the opposite of you. I have 5 abnormal MRI's, all indication I have MS but I don't have the so called symptoms everyone says is MS.  They all tell me I have anxiety and put me on paxil. I am ALWAYS dizzy, vertigo, feel somewhat disoriented and paxil did help for awhile.  I finally went off it and everything I always feel is back. I think you may want to get a 2nd opinion. Maybe its early...or maybe you have lyme disease...or maybe you truly don't have MS.  Lyme is a great imitator.  Worth a shot.  It is possible too that you are healthy and your symptoms don't progress because of that.

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      Maybe insist your neurologist prefers a lumbar tap? That should show MS bands maybe hopefully so you can get some answers. 

      Take care

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    Hi Hayhue,

    I hope that you find some relief and answers soon!  I know all too well the added frustration and stress of no diagnosis can cause, and even make thins physically worse.  I have a similar story, but it stretched back almost 8 years. I've had very similar symptoms and I was recently diagnosed with Lyme.  I truly believe that you and your doctors should look into Lyme, which can look and feel a lot like MS.  

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    I also need help, I have had symptoms for a few years now. Have run through all the tests. Four mri and a spinal tap. The protein in my spinal fluid was 59!  I was concerned, but was told because i had no leisons, that i didnt have ms. I fall, have pain, numbing and tingling, low wbc , low vitamin d, the list goes on.  No diagnosis... Help.. there are times when I call and they make you feel crazy  not sure what to do  suggestions??
    • Posted

      keep pushing for answers dontbgive up. You know your body the best! 
    • Posted

      Thanks Jaime. Im going to another neurologist at strong memorial in Rochester. Im feeling overwhelmed. I dont even know what to ask anymore.
    • Posted

      I really sympathize. If you find a doctor who will treat your symptoms without mri findings, please share.  In the meantime, just rest, stay cool, take your vitamins-especially D and the B’s,get some excercise.  Let your family and friends share in the housework,  childcare, whatever you need. Maybe it’s not MS, either. Let them work you up.

      Maybe if enough of us speak out there can be something offered to us. I read somewhere that 5-8% of patients with symptoms don’t show plaque.  Not that that information has swayed anyone I’ve encountered recently. President Trump is working on a way to get patients who have no hope experimental treatment but I think they’re thinking of cancer... Good luck. 

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      Thank you wanda. I will keep you updated. Thanks you all for the support.
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    I am sorry to hear about your difficulties. I was diagnosed with ms almost 40 years ago. Long before the invention of the mri. (Based on symptoms, findings on exams and positive visual evoked responses, and lumbar puncture (spinal tap)). It is more than possible to live with me.  However, as I am finding out now, it is not possible to receive treatment-especially disease modifying treatment without a positive mri. The neurologists I’ve been seeing tell me that I don’t have ms.  No care at all for my increasing disability especially my vision. No interest in finding out what I have or of even suggesting that’s it’s all in my head........like I’d have 40 years of incontinence and all of that!  So yes, you can have ms without mri findings. Apparently 5-8% do. But the insurance companies won’t pay for treatment without them. So it almost doesn’t matter.  I’m looking for a doctor that is willing to help me. If you find one, I’ll go wherever I have to.  Good luck!  And keep positive thinking! It’s the most important thing you can do.  Stay cool, rest, take vitamin D and B12. Stay healthy. Keep active. Get a dog!!
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    Hey everyone. Sorry for the long absence. I've basically given up on testing for now and am just living with it as best as I can. Thank you so much for all the kind words and relations. It's always so nice to know we're not alone.

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      Hello, I’m new to this discussion! I was diagnosed with a rare neurological disorder called palatal myoclonus (tremors)... basically my palate in my mouth spasms and creates a constant clicking noise in my ears. Imagine a typewriter going off in your ear 24/7... 1 in 3 million people are diagnosed with it. Upon talking with my ENT Dr (he’s the one who diagnosed me) he advised me to get an MRI of my brain because this disorder is usually associated with MS, Parkinson’s, & other brain disorders or tumors.. I spoke with the doctor today & he said it looks “good”... but he still wants me to see a neurologist in case further testing needs to be done. Idk what to make of it looks “good..” it could mean nothing or it could be that he just didn’t want to say something because he’s not a neurologist. I’ve had memory loss really bad to the point my GP prescribed me adderall a few months back. I’ve been dizzy to the point where I felt like everything was spinning, I’ve sometimes not been able to swallow. All things pointing to MS. I go to neurologist tomorrow so hopefully I can get more answers. I too am curious to know if MS can exist without any lesions on the MRI. 

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      I’m in the same boat. Two years of testing, no lesions but other wise complete symptom match. I’ve been told they have no idea what’s wrong. My life has changed completely and I feel I’ve been left to just get on with it by my doctors. Before this I was never ill and very rarely went to my GP. Anyone suggest where I can go from here? 
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    Hello, sorry I’m a little late to the discussion. Im in the same boat on this one. I didn’t even know that this sort of thing existed so it’s bitter sweet to find people like me going through the same things. I’ve been having numbness and tingling in my body on and off now for almost a year and it’s been relentless. Started as a small patch behind my ear and worked it’s way down into my shoulder and side then in to my legs and feet. All of my tests are clear and my MRI’s are clear, the only thing that came back positive was a lumbar puncture for oligoclonal bands. My neurologist is sending me to an MS clinic in the next two weeks. It can be tired and exhausting. But their is one quote that has helped me get by from a very great person in history. “If you can't fly then run, if you can't run then walk, if you can't walk then crawl, but whatever you do you have to keep moving forward.”- Martin Luther King Jr. Good luck with every thing and I hope you find the answers your looking for.

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