My experience of Cauda Equina Syndrome
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I thought I'd post about my experience of Cauda Equina Syndrome (CES) in case it's of any use to anyone. I'm a 30-year-old woman.
In spring 2010 my lower back suddenly became painful. It didn't get better. Over the summer I tried various things - painkillers, the chiropractor, the gym, swimming, pilates - but found nothing gave lasting relief. Towards the year end my back became increasingly stiff and sore and one evening before Christmas I fell on the snow and felt a disc slip in my back.
Instantly I was in agony. The doctor seemed to think my level of pain was pretty standard and put me on Voltarol. I carried on with work with out pain but feeling electric shock sensations down my legs every so often. When I came off the Voltarol a week later, I had the most excruciating sciatica and was almost crawling up the walls with pain. I was put back on painkillers and told repeatedly by several very kind, but essentially uninterested doctors that the sciatica would likely wear off.
After about 3 weeks I had upped my dosage of painkillers (dangerously, I later found out) to cope with the pain. My GP told me that no investigation of sciatica was warranted until I had had it for at least 6 weeks. After 4 weeks I started to have difficulty walking. After about 50 yards I would need to crouch down to get the feeling back in my legs so I could continue moving. My feet would point in odd directions sometimes, as if I had a disability. When I lay down, a feeling of coldness would fill my bottom area. I experienced some difficulty in peeing though I was still able to go to the toilet and had no incontinence until the day of the operation.
I called the doctor after a week of this and he said if I wasn't incontinent, there was no need to worry about CES. I later learnt that once you are incontinent with CES, your prognosis for recovering nerve function is significantly worse. I was in the pre-stages of urinary retention, which he didn't seem to think was at all related. He said the leg weakness was most likely muscle wasting from the sciatica (which I thought odd - my muscles looked and were behaving perfectly normally) and that if I felt coldness, not pins and needles in my saddle area, it did not sound like CES (which I'd heard about after typing my symptoms into Google and finding that unanimously, they came up).
A week later I got another doctor's appointment as my leg weakness and inability to pee were getting worse. This time I saw a different doctor who instantly realised what the problem was, tested the sensation in my saddle area which was worryingly absent (it's horribly easy not to notice that bits of you are going numb) and sent me straight to A&E. After various tests and an MRI I was diagnosed with CES with a very large disc herniation at L4-L5 and was operated on that night.
After the surgery the leg pain and weakness resolved instantly. When the nurses removed my catheter though I couldn't pee and couldn't feel anything much in my genital area. I was utterly terrified that I might have ruined my sex life and lost the ability to pee normally. They sent me home with a tap catheter to try and remind my body of what it should be doing.
A couple of weeks later I was lying in bed and suddenly felt a wave of feeling in my saddle area, as if all my nerve endings were suddenly alert. It was the most wonderful feeling as I knew it meant that my nerves were repairing and that I hadn't lost sensation here. I could feel that I needed to pee, which was also wonderful. The catheter came out soon after and I could pee normally most of the time, with a slight delay at other times.
It's now a year later. I'm often in pain with my back still. I've had several episodes where CES symptoms have come back and I've been MRIed again, showing that whenever any disc of mine in that area slightly bulges out, the nerves damaged by the first herniation go on the blink again, but with time the numbness goes away again, though it's always nerve-wracking. I pee normally most of the time but am still seeing a neuro-urologist at times to assist with this. I've currently got sciatica for the first time since prior my operation which is worrying, but I'm keeping an eye on it and will contact my brilliant consultant if it doesn't go away after a month or so, or obviously if I develop any more worrying symptoms.
The point of this essay is really to explain what happened to me, as when I got the syndrome I couldn't find details of another case quite like mine online. I hope this might be helpful to someone who is worried their nerves won't repair, because there is often hope that they will - when I was in hospital, the doctors kept telling me my nerves wouldn't get better as I had had pressure on them for longer than 48 hours - in fact 3 weeks! But they still did, so there is hope.
The other point of this story is that I needn't have ever developed this distressing syndrome had my back problems been taken seriously by my GPs. The other day I went back to the GP to get their advice about this new episode of sciatica and they said "Let's wait and see how it turns out." I think in this instance they're probably right - it probably will wear off with painkillers and physiotherapy. But this is exactly the same advice they gave me a year ago prior to my operation. If my GP had ordered a scan after my disc first slipped, or after my sciatica first started, my consultant says they would have straight away seen that I would need surgery as the herniation was too big to ever repair by itself. But they didn't think it was a big deal, and I don't like to be pushy.
And as a result of their inattention and delay I developed CES and now have permanent nerve damage.
I understand that back pain is a fact of life for many, and it looks like I'm going to be one of them. I also understand that in the vast majority of cases, slipped discs and sciatica go away by themselves. But it seems to me that whenever there is the chance of some underlying pathology that will lead to outcomes like (or worse than) mine, GPs should err vastly on the side of caution.
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cpaigesf Rabbit
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I mentioned to my doctor that I have realized that I am retaining urine, not feeling the sensation to urinate and waiting many more hours than I have in the past. She said if there is any more change - loss of saddle sensation, or incontinence then I should go to emergency. I have had a few times after sitting for a while that I feel tingly in saddle area, or cold when lying down. Also, I find that I have to wait after urination to be
I'm done and force it to completely void bladder.
So now, as I read some stories of slower onset CES I wonder if I should be going to the hospital. I don't want to be a hypochondriac but this is scary stuff.
Would love any feedback...
maryanne45 cpaigesf
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Hello,
Did you get some answers? google slow onset cauda equina. The best article I have found that can even begin to explain my painful journey through slow onset cauda equina is in a Canadian chiropracters journal. It describes the urinary issues as the best early measure and main early red flag. Also a patient with smaller S1 L5 issues that caused the Cauda Equina symptoms. This disease can make you think your crazy but its not only in your head when parts of you start going numb and you can't walk. I am nearly two years on and feel I'm maybe one of the lucky ones. I have spina bifida 'occulta' which is less occulta and more spina bifida I now suspect. In desperation to get treatment I used health insurance to walk into an emergency hospital after flying to another state. This is after not being able to get any help for a refferal at all the public system with help of GP. My physio picked up the red flags of the condition and that helped alerting my GP by talking to her. I was also in partial denial myself at that time which did not help. No specialist in my regional area would see me. Nothing drastic showed up in my MRI except a 'smaller' L5 S1' completly busted disc and some stenosis. At the emergency hospital, I had the rectal test done by a young doctor and this did not show anything. Still I was admitted for 5 days stay, given a cortisone shot and met a neurosurgeon I had made contact with online then (painfully) flew home. This rest and shot did nothing.
My symptoms progressed as they had been and I continued losing the ability to walk, retaining urine and not feeling bowel movement, going 24 hours and more without bowel or bladder function, with saddle anesthesia and foot numbness. 6 weeks later I flew back to the same private hospital interstate to access the nurologist that had agreed to see me, though would not discuss whether I did or did not have cauda equina. I was operated on with a laminectimy and discectomy and they then found my nerve was branched in two where it was exiting the foramon. I never did get a follow up appointment and was badly treated by the night nurses in that private hospital. Two years on I live with pain. I have kept my work and relationship. I only tip over sometimes. I try believe I am still healing and still see the physio that helped me. I use mindfullness, pain management etc. None of that would have done me any good without the laminectomy. If you suspect you have slow onset Cauda Equina we cannot afford to be passive about it for a very long duration. Many medicos still do not seem aware of this form and that MRI findings are not always going to show it. I really hope you have recieved some help by now.
julie01285 Rabbit
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I feel investigation & treatment can be discriminatory regarding chronic/ acute utis & noticed many desperate women[ could be men?] on the forums .
I had mine researched Royal Free 1969 on reaching 20s when became sexually active & had to give up sex due to having to get treatment every time I had it .
The outcome was did have it researched at Royal Free 1969 where spina bifida occulta also found as well as fatty liver scarred kidneys and neuropathic bladder ,petit mal,double ureters[ Keyhole urethrotomy ] & IBS[ METRONIZADOLE]
A well known & loved Professor took me back after Appts curtailed in London with Thatchers Cuts .Still being cut off & had to change GPs 5./6 x for not transferrung hospital appts when moved from London.
Recently one of my GPs a teacher ,stated more or less did not have to treat if a middle aged woman ??Yet knew my spinal spasms of spasicity & pain were due to pyuria which can lead to sepsis which NHS A&Es being told not to test for.
Just realized IBS & bladder infection may be linked & if left untreated[ extended cultures] can cause the spinal problems & sepsis especially if delayed .Mine were acute 3 weekly and antibiotics rotated using stronger than normal microscope.In a book of Good Drs all those mentioned deal with males not females /I wonder why?
faye70665 Rabbit
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My pain dr was concerned about nerve damage but after 3 days
in hospital and huge doses of gabapentin and iv of steroids I
was sent home without being told anything.mri with die twice and
other tests done I am still clueless.So I saw gp yesterday
and he was happy with everything.Today after Sunday breakfast
it happened all over again.I can't raise my legs and am numb from
Waist down again.What to do? I am happy your feeling is back.
so_what_is_it Rabbit
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Hi its shocking you were fobbed of for so long and that nobody seems to have been held accountable for the consequences. Reading your post I sincerely believe that the symptoms I am experiencing are CES. I have ongoing back problems. One week ago I was bent over the bath washing my boys hair when I felt my back go,as of a disc had slipped . I couldn't straighten up and literally had to try to get as upright as possible in stages. A few days later I started tripping over my own foot. Though the disx is on the left its my right side that is affected. I have never ever experiences this level if back pain and I am on 180 MG's of Morphine Sulphate tablets daily for existing pain. I am in agony on a night in bed moreso. Last night I got up and went to walk but my foot didn't leave the floor. It dragged making my big toe curl under the foot itself. I have a weird fuzzy/ tingly sensation and am normally as constipated I have to manually evacuate my bowels ( sorry to be so graphic) but today it just came out. I went to the emergency centre and they seems d pretty unphases by the symptoms I described. Do you think it sounds as if it is CES. I know you can't give a professional diagnosis or say it definitely is...but I am certain it is and am terrified I am going to end up paralysed....any comments gratefully received
gingerbread Rabbit
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Good for you rabbit unfortunately my doctor's didnot have enough knowledge to know what was going on with me I was diagnosed with transverse myelitis PLS this went on for five years I went to physical therapy and and my therapist was the one who knew what was going on I finally had surgery March 16th 2016 hoping something good happens for me I hope I can walk again.
maryanne45 gingerbread
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gingerbread maryanne45
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maryanne45 gingerbread
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Hi good to hear. Yes it was my physio of 10 years who diagnoised me too. She took her hands off me and said don't come back til you've had some surgery.
I'm glad to hear your getting around. It sounds like a journey. You just have to keep moving sometimes. Don't give up is a good message 🎁merry christmas & best of luck for more mobility in 2017
saundra68 Rabbit
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Totally stressed out
Chloe5080 saundra68
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Hi,
I'm on the same Rd as every one else. Please, go to another hospital. If you can't pee they have to take care of you. Do it before it's to late! Don't take no
for an answer!
keith94082 Rabbit
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I would have sued every one of them in the early 4 6 week stage. U can't leave cauda equine they gamble as most people don't take legal action. I have a colostomy and urostmoystoma ileal conduit. I lost my bladder I am disabled I have had operation for hernia so which I would not have got I was left in major compression for 6 days sent home after 4.5 hours even though I had a GP letter even when they admitted with some fuss they left me for 2 more days then the done a mir scan sent it over to another hospital I was taken out of bed in the.early hours rushed to Kings in London straight on to the operating table. The neruo surgeon said the relieved the compression but my out look don't look good he was right.
keith94082
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Chloe5080 keith94082
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Hi,
I still haven't been able to get any help.waited 9 mo for apt with pain management. 3 apt with her to be told that I have to see a pain phycologists!!! What is a human being sip to do! So no I have been labeled crazy!?
I'm so so you have to go through all of that. Your life is forever changed. Maby you can stand up with the rest of us and have your voice heard from the darkness.
keith94082 Chloe5080
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Ask for a mir scan that will show what's what every person that as ces. Symptoms should have. I was lucky in away being left in compression for 6 days I had a mirror on the 6th day showed I had a massive compression I must of been going that way as 2 discs had fused together that pain I put up with for a year then my bladder stopped working properly and I was on 1 leg my left was numb. I suffer after the operation I have mobility issues I have a colostomy and a urostmoystoma ileal conduit. My bladder was left in but was removed as it went septic. I sued and won but my life is hard I still have all the pain but worse. Please keep trying thoughts are with u