My experience of Cauda Equina Syndrome
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I thought I'd post about my experience of Cauda Equina Syndrome (CES) in case it's of any use to anyone. I'm a 30-year-old woman.
In spring 2010 my lower back suddenly became painful. It didn't get better. Over the summer I tried various things - painkillers, the chiropractor, the gym, swimming, pilates - but found nothing gave lasting relief. Towards the year end my back became increasingly stiff and sore and one evening before Christmas I fell on the snow and felt a disc slip in my back.
Instantly I was in agony. The doctor seemed to think my level of pain was pretty standard and put me on Voltarol. I carried on with work with out pain but feeling electric shock sensations down my legs every so often. When I came off the Voltarol a week later, I had the most excruciating sciatica and was almost crawling up the walls with pain. I was put back on painkillers and told repeatedly by several very kind, but essentially uninterested doctors that the sciatica would likely wear off.
After about 3 weeks I had upped my dosage of painkillers (dangerously, I later found out) to cope with the pain. My GP told me that no investigation of sciatica was warranted until I had had it for at least 6 weeks. After 4 weeks I started to have difficulty walking. After about 50 yards I would need to crouch down to get the feeling back in my legs so I could continue moving. My feet would point in odd directions sometimes, as if I had a disability. When I lay down, a feeling of coldness would fill my bottom area. I experienced some difficulty in peeing though I was still able to go to the toilet and had no incontinence until the day of the operation.
I called the doctor after a week of this and he said if I wasn't incontinent, there was no need to worry about CES. I later learnt that once you are incontinent with CES, your prognosis for recovering nerve function is significantly worse. I was in the pre-stages of urinary retention, which he didn't seem to think was at all related. He said the leg weakness was most likely muscle wasting from the sciatica (which I thought odd - my muscles looked and were behaving perfectly normally) and that if I felt coldness, not pins and needles in my saddle area, it did not sound like CES (which I'd heard about after typing my symptoms into Google and finding that unanimously, they came up).
A week later I got another doctor's appointment as my leg weakness and inability to pee were getting worse. This time I saw a different doctor who instantly realised what the problem was, tested the sensation in my saddle area which was worryingly absent (it's horribly easy not to notice that bits of you are going numb) and sent me straight to A&E. After various tests and an MRI I was diagnosed with CES with a very large disc herniation at L4-L5 and was operated on that night.
After the surgery the leg pain and weakness resolved instantly. When the nurses removed my catheter though I couldn't pee and couldn't feel anything much in my genital area. I was utterly terrified that I might have ruined my sex life and lost the ability to pee normally. They sent me home with a tap catheter to try and remind my body of what it should be doing.
A couple of weeks later I was lying in bed and suddenly felt a wave of feeling in my saddle area, as if all my nerve endings were suddenly alert. It was the most wonderful feeling as I knew it meant that my nerves were repairing and that I hadn't lost sensation here. I could feel that I needed to pee, which was also wonderful. The catheter came out soon after and I could pee normally most of the time, with a slight delay at other times.
It's now a year later. I'm often in pain with my back still. I've had several episodes where CES symptoms have come back and I've been MRIed again, showing that whenever any disc of mine in that area slightly bulges out, the nerves damaged by the first herniation go on the blink again, but with time the numbness goes away again, though it's always nerve-wracking. I pee normally most of the time but am still seeing a neuro-urologist at times to assist with this. I've currently got sciatica for the first time since prior my operation which is worrying, but I'm keeping an eye on it and will contact my brilliant consultant if it doesn't go away after a month or so, or obviously if I develop any more worrying symptoms.
The point of this essay is really to explain what happened to me, as when I got the syndrome I couldn't find details of another case quite like mine online. I hope this might be helpful to someone who is worried their nerves won't repair, because there is often hope that they will - when I was in hospital, the doctors kept telling me my nerves wouldn't get better as I had had pressure on them for longer than 48 hours - in fact 3 weeks! But they still did, so there is hope.
The other point of this story is that I needn't have ever developed this distressing syndrome had my back problems been taken seriously by my GPs. The other day I went back to the GP to get their advice about this new episode of sciatica and they said "Let's wait and see how it turns out." I think in this instance they're probably right - it probably will wear off with painkillers and physiotherapy. But this is exactly the same advice they gave me a year ago prior to my operation. If my GP had ordered a scan after my disc first slipped, or after my sciatica first started, my consultant says they would have straight away seen that I would need surgery as the herniation was too big to ever repair by itself. But they didn't think it was a big deal, and I don't like to be pushy.
And as a result of their inattention and delay I developed CES and now have permanent nerve damage.
I understand that back pain is a fact of life for many, and it looks like I'm going to be one of them. I also understand that in the vast majority of cases, slipped discs and sciatica go away by themselves. But it seems to me that whenever there is the chance of some underlying pathology that will lead to outcomes like (or worse than) mine, GPs should err vastly on the side of caution.
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Vampgirl Rabbit
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It is so saddening reading everyone's posts here, and how much suffering so many are going through.
I am sorry reading back through my first post it didn't make a great deal of sense, I am so sleep deprived I keep falling asleep for just low seconds at times and then sort of don't know what I'm doing but on some level I obviously think I can still type and such. I remember getting out of bed this morning, and coming to watch TV, but I didn't finish my drink, and when I went in the kitchen later, I don't know what on earth I had been doing in there first thing, I had done some really odd things.
I am finding the information ? keep reading about keeping moving is the best thing, goes against what my body is telling me. Since I started with my symptoms, due to something else going on right now I did become more active. But after I did anything I was ending up with increased pain. I have still tried to keep going, as I do know the rest of your body can get worse without doing so. Every time I do anything now though, things people take for granted I am in worse pain.
I am trying to just enjoy the small things in life right now, but I'm being stripped of being able to do much.
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I'm wishing everyone here gets some relief one way or the other.
mandy23659 Rabbit
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kelly90820 Rabbit
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Does anybody have sharp pains in their feet or legs. I had. my surgery and it's been almost 6 months I am getting better but it's on and off anyone else get this way.
Vampgirl kelly90820
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I haven't had surgery, but prior to my diagnosis (cervical curvature with nerve entrapment & slipped disc at L5 with L5 S1 entrapment, possibility of ligament involvement too), I was in such bad pain on the top of my foot just above my last 3 toes that I was starting to think I'd somehow fractured my foot.
I do sometimes get sharp pains, that are like electric shocks up & down my spine, my leg, hip & occasionally in to my groin as well. I tend to get that worse if I have overdone things.
kelly90820 Vampgirl
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Yeah I know what u mean but I mean after u had the surgery it should be getting better it feels like I'm going backwards
Vampgirl kelly90820
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Unfortunately from things that I have read (I read lots, I've been ill with various things from a young age & had years as a kid of drs telling my mum & dad there was nothing wrong with me it was psychological. Luckily they knew it wasn't as they'd seen things etc. But from age 10 it took then until I was 21 to diagnose the problem, so I have very little faith in drs, so always educate myself now), surgery is very hit & miss. For some people it is an absolute cure, for others they have a period of less symptoms but get worse again. Others it seems to make them worse from the outset.
It also very much depends on how long you were symptomatic before surgery. The longer you had symptoms before surgery the more likely it is that there will be at least some degree of permanent nerve damage. There is also the possibility that areas of your nerve are now coming back to life as it were. If these areas are parts that were numb because of the impingement before, it may be that those bits are now waking up.
Of course despite all I read, I'm not a dr, & even if I were giving an expert opinion over the Internet wouldn't be possible. I think the best thing you can do is go back to your GP or surgeon for their opinion.
Fingers crossed for you.
kelly90820 Vampgirl
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I am gonna do that I don't have an appointment until February. I suffered for at least 7 years with the pain before my surgery i know it may take up to two years to recover.I am just scared it won't idk maybe it's suppose to go back and fourth but everyone's cases I have read about they say after surgery they felt immediate relief I have and I have not.
Vampgirl kelly90820
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Argh how annoying, typed out a reply abs ended up falling asleep and navigated away from the page accidentally.
7 years is a long time to have symptoms before surgery.
Did you have back pain or was it in your leg/s? I assume they did an MRI?
Sadly I have read stories from all sides of this, myself and some others can't even get pain relief from doctors that does anything let alone operate. I know that personally I am a huge risk to their mortality rates, & as I have a short life expectancy so I honestly think they're of the opinion I'm not worth the time, let alone the cost involved in giving me surgery.
kelly90820 Vampgirl
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I have had back pain for years but not that bad no X-rays or anything of my back it was always my neck and the headaches I had. I had severe sciatica in the last couple of years so who knows it may take a long time for me to recover. Awe I'm so sorry to hear that there's no words for that
Vampgirl kelly90820
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I get horrible headaches in one side of my head, a little neck pain occasionally, more pain in my shoulder blade, down my left arm, & pins & needles in my left arm. That's caused by a curvature in my neck which is trapping nerve roots.
It's not fun is it?! I hope you do manage to get some progression with your recovery, it could just take a while. I will keep my fingers crossed for you
kelly90820 Vampgirl
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corinnesharpe Rabbit
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Hey! I know you posted this quite some time ago so I'm hoping you will get this. I'm two weeks post emergency surgery for CES. I'm 34 year old female and I've been trying desperately to find someone who understands me. This post is the ONLY one that gives me hope. I am so nervous I've lost my sex life.... I did get off the catheter which was amazing! If you are able and receive this I would really appreciate having someone to talk to.
Thanks for your post and time!
kelly90820 corinnesharpe
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I know it's not me you asked. But I have lost control of my bladder I still have my sex life but it's not the same. I know how u feel I'm sorry u are going through this. I can't walk in my left foot it's swelled and in a lot of pain and still numb really bad. And so is my butt I can't even sit on the floor. My surgeon is talking about putting a neuro stimulator in my body. I'm hoping this helps.
keith94082 kelly90820
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maryanne45 corinnesharpe
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Hi Corinne,
Sorry to hear you have been effected by CES. It seems there are many women (and men) on this site in varying stages of recovery from surgery. This thread goes back years & I agree helped me very much too in not feeling alone in this 'rare' disease.
Take it easy on yourself, knowing what you'll be left with or what will come back can take years with CES because the nerves grow back so slowly. This is how I understand it and also what I have experienced myself. Have you found some good therapists to support you through rehabbing that will come now and with working on limitations? Its a long haul thing. Be gentle with yourself and if it is CES recovery patience also may be required to see how things will be.
maryanne45 keith94082
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keith94082 maryanne45
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Seen surgeons today they are going to discuss my whole back. As their are multi level problem. I go on a 2 week assessment in March I don't know whether I will last the 2 weeks I am very anxious about it all my life at home I don't get up till 9am plus I go to bed at 5
maryanne45 keith94082
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keith94082 maryanne45
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maryanne45 keith94082
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I missed this reply. Sorry to hear of your loss, sounds like you have had more than your share in this life but still have a positive outlook somehow.
How did the SC trial go?/ is going? I am interested to hear about SC as a pain relief option too.
miriam2482 corinnesharpe
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Hi
I'm also 34 and had emergency CES surgery in Dec 2016. It's been a rocky road to recovery- would like to discuss this with you more !
keith94082 maryanne45
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I at to cancel at the last minute for the 2 week assessment. My father in law died on the Sat they understood I won't book again till it's clear. I go on the 5th to hear what they plan to do with my whole back the top c6 c7 are compressed.. the pain is getting worse.
Foxyminx keith94082
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I've got that too. C6 C7 compressed, It gives me hell. cant do anything as it makes neck tighten and then nearly strangles me, or squeezes blood vessels and makes me feel faint. Trying to get them to operate but they're hopeless.