My experience of Cauda Equina Syndrome

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I thought I'd post about my experience of Cauda Equina Syndrome (CES) in case it's of any use to anyone. I'm a 30-year-old woman.

In spring 2010 my lower back suddenly became painful. It didn't get better. Over the summer I tried various things - painkillers, the chiropractor, the gym, swimming, pilates - but found nothing gave lasting relief. Towards the year end my back became increasingly stiff and sore and one evening before Christmas I fell on the snow and felt a disc slip in my back.

Instantly I was in agony. The doctor seemed to think my level of pain was pretty standard and put me on Voltarol. I carried on with work with out pain but feeling electric shock sensations down my legs every so often. When I came off the Voltarol a week later, I had the most excruciating sciatica and was almost crawling up the walls with pain. I was put back on painkillers and told repeatedly by several very kind, but essentially uninterested doctors that the sciatica would likely wear off.

After about 3 weeks I had upped my dosage of painkillers (dangerously, I later found out) to cope with the pain. My GP told me that no investigation of sciatica was warranted until I had had it for at least 6 weeks. After 4 weeks I started to have difficulty walking. After about 50 yards I would need to crouch down to get the feeling back in my legs so I could continue moving. My feet would point in odd directions sometimes, as if I had a disability. When I lay down, a feeling of coldness would fill my bottom area. I experienced some difficulty in peeing though I was still able to go to the toilet and had no incontinence until the day of the operation.

I called the doctor after a week of this and he said if I wasn't incontinent, there was no need to worry about CES. I later learnt that once you are incontinent with CES, your prognosis for recovering nerve function is significantly worse. I was in the pre-stages of urinary retention, which he didn't seem to think was at all related. He said the leg weakness was most likely muscle wasting from the sciatica (which I thought odd - my muscles looked and were behaving perfectly normally) and that if I felt coldness, not pins and needles in my saddle area, it did not sound like CES (which I'd heard about after typing my symptoms into Google and finding that unanimously, they came up).

A week later I got another doctor's appointment as my leg weakness and inability to pee were getting worse. This time I saw a different doctor who instantly realised what the problem was, tested the sensation in my saddle area which was worryingly absent (it's horribly easy not to notice that bits of you are going numb) and sent me straight to A&E. After various tests and an MRI I was diagnosed with CES with a very large disc herniation at L4-L5 and was operated on that night.

After the surgery the leg pain and weakness resolved instantly. When the nurses removed my catheter though I couldn't pee and couldn't feel anything much in my genital area. I was utterly terrified that I might have ruined my sex life and lost the ability to pee normally. They sent me home with a tap catheter to try and remind my body of what it should be doing.

A couple of weeks later I was lying in bed and suddenly felt a wave of feeling in my saddle area, as if all my nerve endings were suddenly alert. It was the most wonderful feeling as I knew it meant that my nerves were repairing and that I hadn't lost sensation here. I could feel that I needed to pee, which was also wonderful. The catheter came out soon after and I could pee normally most of the time, with a slight delay at other times.

It's now a year later. I'm often in pain with my back still. I've had several episodes where CES symptoms have come back and I've been MRIed again, showing that whenever any disc of mine in that area slightly bulges out, the nerves damaged by the first herniation go on the blink again, but with time the numbness goes away again, though it's always nerve-wracking. I pee normally most of the time but am still seeing a neuro-urologist at times to assist with this. I've currently got sciatica for the first time since prior my operation which is worrying, but I'm keeping an eye on it and will contact my brilliant consultant if it doesn't go away after a month or so, or obviously if I develop any more worrying symptoms.

The point of this essay is really to explain what happened to me, as when I got the syndrome I couldn't find details of another case quite like mine online. I hope this might be helpful to someone who is worried their nerves won't repair, because there is often hope that they will - when I was in hospital, the doctors kept telling me my nerves wouldn't get better as I had had pressure on them for longer than 48 hours - in fact 3 weeks! But they still did, so there is hope.

The other point of this story is that I needn't have ever developed this distressing syndrome had my back problems been taken seriously by my GPs. The other day I went back to the GP to get their advice about this new episode of sciatica and they said "Let's wait and see how it turns out." I think in this instance they're probably right - it probably will wear off with painkillers and physiotherapy. But this is exactly the same advice they gave me a year ago prior to my operation. If my GP had ordered a scan after my disc first slipped, or after my sciatica first started, my consultant says they would have straight away seen that I would need surgery as the herniation was too big to ever repair by itself. But they didn't think it was a big deal, and I don't like to be pushy.

And as a result of their inattention and delay I developed CES and now have permanent nerve damage.

I understand that back pain is a fact of life for many, and it looks like I'm going to be one of them. I also understand that in the vast majority of cases, slipped discs and sciatica go away by themselves. But it seems to me that whenever there is the chance of some underlying pathology that will lead to outcomes like (or worse than) mine, GPs should err vastly on the side of caution.

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    hi there, I came to know of my disc herniation on jan 17'2015 through mri, i could barely walk had radiating pain to ankle. I have L4-L5 and L5-S1 disc problem.

    Neurosurgeon told me to get it operated immediately but my doc says we'll keep surgery as last option. So, he gave an epidural injection on 28/1/2015 which helped me a lot, my sciatica is now gone but i feel strange in the crotch area. It feels somewhat less in sensation but if i pinch i can feel it. I am not sure if i have cauda equina. I reported it to my doctor but he seems reluctant for it. I want to know about all the symptoms of it. I feel sometimes tingling in the genital area but it goes after 1 minute, at the same time if i pinch i can feel it. I have had severe constipation and straining also. but then also my doc doesnt think i have equina. I am 23 years old and really worried. Acne broke out due to constipation and its not going. 

    I dont have any foot drop but my right leg is weak. I have throbbing on right leg. I dont have any difficulty in urinating and controlling it. But it sure is weird down there, its not normal. what should i do? 

     

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      Hi there it does sound like it could be ces .... I don't have any feeling for loo now at all.. But I did have your symptoms at first .. If you are taking medication that could make you constipated .. But ces can also ., take senna and laxido you will get it from your gp for your bowels this will help very much .., other symptoms are severe leg pain and back pain .. Electric shock feeling in leg and foot .. Cold feet .., numbness in bum and leg and foot ...can ( as what happened to me) lead to being totally paralysed ... Though I'm lucky I can now walk little bits at a time .. But took months of hard painful work to get back on my feet .., ces is rare and gps don't know the red flag symptoms as such and they leave surgery till last option ( which in my opionion is wrong) as damage is done by then .., I would suggest you go to your gp and a and e as often as you can and if your really sure you may have this debilitating illness ,., and you should say you are having accidents ( even if your not) this should make them treat you ASAP and day that your leg and foot pain is worse than back pain ( even if it's not) as this too leads to them

      Paying more attention to your symptoms ,,, I hope this helped you and wish you best of luck ., your young and have while life ahead of you so I hope they get you sorted .,, xxxxx Karen xxx

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      Also I would sure as heck of listened to your neurosurgeon before your gp honey xx go back today demand another MRI ... Xxx
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      Hi karen, my doc did another mri 3 days back and report seems bad to me as at L5-S1 the spinal canal is only 1 mm, but he still says that its fine its just in one dimension and it has subsided. I dont understand it much, also he says i dont have equina and my numbness will go away in time. He said he'll do surgery only when there is foot drop. he says my motor power is nice and the SLR has also increased, he is taking it as +ve sign. Basically I have some strangeness in the genital area and throbbing thats it. I am taking prednisolone and baclofen along with vit B12 and calcium. I dont have much pain just some mild discomfort. 

      I dont want to undergo a surgery if it takes so much time and what if i dont get better. I am very confused. I 'll see some other doctor in some days. I should see a neurosurgeon only, right?

       

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      It's a hard decision to make ... I say go with your gut instinct .. Deep down you will know ... After two MRI scans and months of pyshio and bring told mine disc collapse was no where near their either ( mine was L 5 also ) I was very sure something serious deep down was wrong with me .. I after slowly deteriorating .. I was left unable to feel anything from waist down... .. After being left for days like that I was then rushed for emergency theatre as lo and behold it was ces and as it had been left so long untreated I'm now left with a lust of life long problems .. .. Yours could we be not touching nerve system but then again it may .. All you can do is go with your gut feeling .. Yeah the op is long and recovery slow but better that than the latter xxxx
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      You just scared me, I dont want it get worse. I'll finish my college in 2 months and after that I m gonna get it fixed. If the op is needed then it must be done. 

      Thanks Karen

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      Hi suman,

      Hope you are well. The advice given by Karen is thorough and mostly consistent with most people'sexperiences. The key thing is if you wait for all the ces symptoms to appear then its too late. It's like experiencing some heart problem, get checked and see some defect and say I will wait till I have a heart attack to get treatment. It is 98% too late. All suffers of ces wish for one thing: TIME!!! If only my symptoms were recognised and dealt with in TIME I wouldn't be in this situation. Believe me, one day you can wake up and things start to deteriorate at an alarming rate usually hours and by the time you are rushed into hosp etc, it may be too late. I understand you want to finish 2 months of college before you get op; however that college qualification may not amount to much once ces takes grip of your life. Not trying to scare you but telling you real life experiences. All the best my dear.

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      umm, I am just not sure if I have cauda equina syndrome or not. Strangeness in crotch and herniated discs means cauda equina only or what? Here in India doctors wont listen much, they want to do surgery for everything.Anyways I'll see a doctor soon. I'll be very honest, I am so scared reading everyone's condition and their experiences. I have heard its rare, I just wish mine is not the case of cauda equina.
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      Jasmine is right once damage is done it can't be fixed your stick with life like that ... And time is everything also it is up there as jasmine says also with heart attacks etc .. You would ignore heart problems so why your back and precious nerve system in back xxx
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      They don't like to operate over here in uk either .. Time as jasmine says is everything .. And would your college not let you catch up as also what jasmine say of you do have ces what would your quality of life be .. I'm sure you could re do college you missed ., I have had no choice but to

      Of bee off my work for almost a year and probably won't ever return though I shall hope one day I can xx good luck and take care do not ignore your body it will tell you xx

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      I feeling a bit down I am I hospital had all my scar tissue from my operation before urstomy and bladder removal and a Colston and because of ces.

      I had it all cut away because I had a line of incisional hernias. Pus the scarring inside had attached it's self to my stomach muscles. So the have been cut about. I will get home but the physios have not been yet in here a week. Feel sad all this because they left me. No wonder the settlement was out of court. Didn't want the bad story to come out. I am laying in this hospital bed on my air mattress as I can't walk because of my mobility issues. Bet that first AE doctor is a consultant now. Still I have all you lot to support me bless u

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      Awww Keith how truly awful.. I really feel for you.. Even though and quite rightly so you won settlement .. That can not make up for what you have and are continuing to suffer 😔.... I can only try to imagine how sad and down and extremely angry you must get ... As I do to but mine isn't as bad as yours.. It is for sure the worst when you lye there and think ( they just left me ) exact words went through my head a few times .... I felt for months lying in my bed in complete debilitating hell ... I remember thinking at times surely to god it is not normal or right to leave people in this state for literally months ... Then suddenly fly you into theatre to say oh sorry you have cuada equina syndrome .. How long will you be in hospital for ..? You must be very sore just terrible you must be out your mind with despair at times .. Keep strong and keep fighting and take care x
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      I hope the operation on the scar tissue makes things easier for you. How long has it been since the injury? I've had ces for ten years now. Stay strong. I know that when you're in the heart of all that chaos and darkness, words from other people don't seem to grasp what you're going through. At least on the forum, you know that you're talking to people are also going through the same thing, or have gone through the same sort of thing. 
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      Just need to hang in there and know that no matter how bad it gets, there's light at the end of the tunnel.
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      I had established ces on the 6 August 2008 that was the day they done urgent surgery. Was whip out of my hospital bed at 1 in the morning blue lighted to kings the rest is history I know from my settlement that I am the only ces that as got mobility issues Colstomy and ileal conduit urstomy. Bladder removed plus these ops on top 6 operation. I lose a bit of energy. But I feel for the people who live with it even the operation as not stop my back pain my right leg when I put weight on it as a mind of its own. Goes dead without warning I won't use a wheel chair. A stuck saves me. When I sit it just as pins a needles . Ops cure the compression but ur back gets weak I have a back. That as so many things I don't both anymore pain I have good combination of drugs .
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      Maybe they'll be able do a bladder transplant, or build an artificial bladder. That's worse than anything I have. I've got nerve damage down both legs, and urinary and bowel retention, so I have to self catheterize and manually open my a**hole to poo lol Controlling my diet is the best way I've found for dealing with it. What I eat and how much I eat is carefully controlled now. And the weight is down massively, which has taken the pressure of my spine. I can still have children thank God, but there's still a bit of nerve damage...and the bladder needs to be completely empty...hard to imagine that I'll ever be in a relationship again with someone who'd be will to take my situation on board, and I find myself thinking why should she...

      Keith, I hope the surgery improves your situation, and that someday a transplant, artificial bladder, or artificially grown bladder using stem cells, can improve your quality of life. I know that an artificial bladder is possible. It's called (quick google) an orthotopic neobladder procedure.

       

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      Your a very strong man .... Yeah I am the same refuse to go in wheelchair would rather wobble along ... I was same blue lighted to southern general with ces ... I hope one day they take this illness seriously and symptoms before it's to late for people it's just awful ... Xxx
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      Relationships .. You hit a nerve there.. For me... Though my partner is very understanding and he won't ever leave me or anything .. Think that when you realise you got a good guy really .... I know I won't ever be well you know .. Totally no way will I ever .. My symptoms are along lines of yours .. I've read abit about stem cell treatments ..
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      Morning how are you doing ??? Stem cell I don't know a lot about it .. It was my brother who had mentioned it to me .. Something about it can make nerves re grow etc ..i haven't researched it much really should .. I don't think it's widely available xx
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      Stem cells can be taken from a variety of sources: the nasal passages, bone marrow, embryos (which is more controversial for some). They can grow into any kind of cell, and as soon as they come into contact with a damaged part of the body, start growing into those kind of cells. So if they're injected into a damaged spinal cord, they start growing into new spinal cord cells. Right now, its at the clinical trial stage for all sorts of treatments. If /  when there's a clinal trial for CES is something you should talk to a GP but preferrably a specialist about.
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      I am ok back home I have 64 staples up my belly I am so sore. Laying in bed . Will have the staples out next week. How are u that the main thing.
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      That's a lot of staples goodness .. Great news your home .. Get lots of rest ... I'm ok thank you ..x
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      Sore night can't wait for the staples to come out. Get back to getting positive against this ces. I think I got the least amount of tablet but they are strong and don't give me problems. Wife as brought another memory foam 130 pound. She as put it on the one I have on the bed. Feels comfy.
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      You will be very sore that's fab great idea of another mattress on top of one you have ... I hope the pain eases soon for you .. It's a lovely sunny day here in Scotland ... Beautiful .. I'm sitting with a coffee in garden listening to bird chirping away xx
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      Hey suman, sorry to hear about your injury. I am also young,(22) and had a very similar injury. I don't know how you are doing but I hope all is well. Just be extra careful what you do because a herniated disc can esculate rather quickly. And try and not be too afraid of the surgery if one day it comes down to that. Being young everyone told me to avoid back surgery as long as possible! However after my surgery I feel 1 million times better than before. Plus we are young so we recover much more quickly than others. I hope you find these words helpful and always know you are not alone in this experience.
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      I did talk to my gp but she doesn't seem to know of stem cell and says it's still I. Very early trial stages xx
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      I'm due to see my surgeon again soon for sure I will ask about this thank you very much xx
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      Hi suman how r u keeping now?i have gone through some of your discussions.i will tell you my story_i used to get lower back pains once or twice/year.due to a slight pain on my left leg lead me to take an mri(even my gp told me not to go for mri)unfortunately my mri was showing significant compression on cauda equina but i dont have any symptoms except some heavyness on toes.after getting the mri result to gp ,he asked me to go to AE straightaway and nuerosurgen gave me the date for suŕgery in two weeks time unless there is no symptoms.otherwise emergency surgery on call.even i was not ready for op as i have no symptoms,but surgeon explained me the problems i am going to face once it is fully compressed.so i am 7 weeks post op now.i dont know the difference it made on me since i dont have any symptoms before op.but after reading the experiences of ces sufferers now i think my choice was right.CES=TIME..there r very good hospitals and doctors in india.i am also from there.best of luck

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