My experience of the Symfony Toric lens

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I have been short-sighted and astigmatic for most of my life. Finally cataracts meant an operation. Before the operation my myopia was -12.50 (right) and -11.00 (left), astigmatism -6 (right) and -4 (left). I agreed to have a Symphony Toric lens - ZXT375 - and this was inserted into my right eye four days ago.

My vision began to recover from the anaesthesia after a few hours. Other than a dull ache - which lasted no more than 24 hours, there has been little pain. I have been prescribed antibiotic and anti-inflammatory drops four times a day for the next month. 

I did not expect that this lens would allow me to read without glasses and (at the moment) it looks like my expectations will be proved right. I have previously experienced halos around car headlights and this is unchanged. In addition I can now see starbursts around some street lights.

I removed the right hand lens from my glasses after the surgery but, having worn them for a short time, found the distortion to be too great. Other than for reading, the vision in my right eye is so much better than it was when I was wearing glasses. For the first time in over 60 years I can walk around without them - though I have to be very careful about judging distances on my left.

The clarity, the light and the colours I experience with my enhanced right eye are nothing short of remarkable.

Will update this in about 10 days

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    Hi I had my first eye done about a month ago with the symphony and last week had the second eye done with a Tori’s symphony. Haha I’m considered young, 64. And near sighted. After the first eye I immediately had above excellent far and middle vision. Near vision got a bit better by 2 weeks. I was nervous about doing the second eye but now it’s 5 days out and my reading is doing well. I was told from the start that for very small print I will need readers. I do have the starbursts and glare so not really happy with the night vision but my surgeon said it’s too early and things should get better. I never minding wearing glasses and was happy with my trifocals but really had no choice. This is what my surgeon recommended so since she had years of training I went with it. I’m not sure what my vision would have been like with other lens but right now everything is bright, really bright, clear, and I really don’t need glasses except for looking at some fine print. I hope this helps others. I was freaking out making this disicion to upgrade or not. Oh, I do have to have a yagg in a few months so that should improve the starbursts I was told. 30 to 40 % get some scar tissue I was just lucky, lol 

    good luck it’s never going to be your 20 year eyes but I guess it’s better than going blind from cataracts 

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      Ally not sure why surgeon suggested a YAG for starbursts.  A YAG should onlynbevdone if you are experiencing what some people call a second cataract (not really a cataract) / actually called PCO.  Posterior capsule opacification (PCO) is a fairly common complication of cataract surgery. Sometimes you can develop a thickening of the back (posterior) of the lens capsule which holds your artificial lens in place.

      This thickening of the capsule causes your vision to become cloudy. If this happens you may need to have laser treatment to make vision clear again.

      Whatever you do - don’t have a YAG procedure done unless it is for PCO.  It definitely won’t do anything for starbursts or glare.  Also if you want a lens exchange in a few months time if these lenses are satisfactory to you a YAG procedure will make that almost impossible.

      I had Symfony lenses implanted in July and August and now the glare and starbursts have subsided.  Likely yours will too on time.  But the concentric circles you see around certain lights ie car brakes are part of lens design that won’t go away - but these aren’t as troublesome as the starbursts.  I drive without any concern now at night.

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      Yes by scar tissue I meant I do have a second cataract . By removing it the starbursts hopefully will get better cause the light won’t be reflecting off of it, if I heard the Dr correctly. 

       

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      Hmmm I definitely have a PCO in the right pre surgeon.  The fellow mentioned scar tissue, light reflecting off. Now I’m confused, can you have both? I’ll have to ask the surgeon post op about this but she said laser for the PCO in a few months. Sue.and thank you for your note and hopefully my night vision will improve as well. 
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      Hi Ally,

      I'm having YAG laser tomorrow morning for PCO that happened rather soon in my left eye (five months out of surgery). It is supposed to help with some blurriness I've been experiencing in that eye, but doc said nothing about the halos and starbursts, which he still says I need to be patient with. Night driving is becoming tolerable, but it's more that I've gotten used to the new normal of starbursts and halos; I am hoping that his word is correct and that these issues will eventually subside.

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      Allly if you are doubtyyour opthamologist you might want to get s 2nd opinion.  Seems awfully soon since your surgery for this to be PCO.  I may be wrong.  But symptoms of PCO is hazy or waxy/ blurred vision.  I don’t think knit has anything to do with starbursts and halos.  Maybe get s 2nd opinion from another specialist.  As mentioned once you have a YAG done this makes any lens e change very difficult.  You’ll want to be sure it’s needed. If your vision it likely isn’t PCO 
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      Sue.An., according to the American Academy of Ophthalmology, PCO can occur to some degree as early as one week after surgery. Other articles I've read say it can occur a few month to a few years after. I guess it depends on how thorough the surgeon was and other individual response factors.

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      Thank you Sue, 

      ill report what my surgeon says tomorrow. I totally trust her as she is one of the leading cornea specialists in the country, affiliation with a major NYC teaching hospital. and did a fantastic job with my cornea surgery 6 years ago. I know she explained that this PCO can develop at any time, and a laser tweak will improve my reading.  It was her Fellow that brought up the scar tissue issue. But whatever, I can’t even imagine having a lens exchange. I found this surgery to be very stressful, I don’t like anyone messing with my eyes. I watched my Dad go blind from improper eye treatments. Boy, it’s a good thing I have insurance, just got the bill from the first eye, $19,000 without the lens that was out of pocket. 

      jerome good luck tomorrow and thanks for the night driving encouragement

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      I guess different surgeons advise differently.  My surgeon said most experience it 2 years to 5 years with younger patients experiencing it sooner.  But signs I was told to watch out forvwas hazy vision not starbursts.  
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      Wow I cannot imagine cataract surgery costing that much (assume that is UsA dollars)?  In Canada it is covered by Medicare and costs $3,500 - only out of pocket expense was Symfony Lens $900 ea.   one has to wonder when insurance is involved if they jack up the prices.
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      Jerome is correct, I had early onset PCO in my first IOL eye with Symphony and had YAG at 4 weeks, cleared the blurred waxy vision and softened the starbursts, I have the same issues with second eye and am scheduled to have YAG in 2 weeks. There are a number of PCO descriptions but it can range from wrinkling of the capsule, clouding, tightening of the capsule and can be anterior or posterior. Also, the younger you are the sooner this happens, in children they have to treat PCO at time of IOL procedure (in the rare case that children need this procedure). I am 47
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      I am 61. I think there's a huge curve of experience on this.

       

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      My insurance, which is a very good plan by US standards, will pay for a standard monofocal lens, with a copay of $560. However, they would not pay for the Symfony. I had one toric lens and one non-toric, and total for the two lenses alone was $5,000.

       

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      Thanks Ally. This is sort of a journey I didn't expect to be on. I always thought cataract surgery would be a simple thing. A whole new world!

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      Thanks I didn’t know PCO manifests itself with different symptoms or something that one could have that soon after cataract surgery.  I have been looking for ways to prevent or prolong it from happening.  
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      I am amazed at different pricing.  Moncton focal lenses are covered by Medicare (healthcare for all Canadians) and Price is set at $300.  My out of pocket expense for Symfony lenses gave me a $300 credit (as monofocal would be covered under Medicare).  Original price of Symfony was $1,200 less credit of $300.

      I would think due to population of USA that prices would be lower rather than higher vs Canada.

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      Mine were done in a hospital so the cost included nurses, Drs, recovery, omg there were a million people in that room, etc etc. Also NYC tends to inflate prices, I’m sure my insurance won’t pay that amount and they will accept it. My lenes out of pocket surprise $1500:pre eye. I don’t know why and I’m not asking but my Dr discounted them for me from $3000 pre eye. Maybe because I used her in the past? Idk not asking, lol! 

      Anyway as for the  YAG, I know she said the earliest she will do it is in 3 months. So I wait and will see what happens with the other eye, Sue I don’t think there is a way to prevent them. Like any surgery, some people get adhesions some don’t, same thing with eye, about 30 ‘40 %  get them. They can form anytime unfortunately but there is a fix so that is good, hopefully it won’t happen to you.

       

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      lol - cataracts the gift that just keeps on giving.  Not looking forward to PCO.

      Yes mine done in a hospital - must be for medicate to cover and lenses paid through hospital as well.  Our surgeons are paid same amount no matter the lens you chose (as that fee goes to hospitals who buy them in bulk).  Long wait for surgeries is downside of living in Canada but at least no price gouging.

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      The YAG laser was extremely easy! I was there at 7am and out by 7:48 (to be precise). Most of the time was spent doing dilation, blood pressure, med list check. The actual procedure was about a minute and I was able to drive home. Should notice improvement by later today or tomorrow, I am told.
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      so update, apparently you can get this haze or whatever they call it even before you take out the lens. On my left when she took the lens out it already had formed under so it looks like 2 eyes yag for me in 3 to 4 months and yes she said it will help with the glare and sharper vision. 

      Ugg, I thought this was a simple surgery plus dry eyes not helping right now! It’s a process for some of us I guess! 

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      Not sure I completely understand -  when you say ‘when she removed the lens’ are you referring to your natural lens or did you have a lens exchange and it was previous IOL she removed?
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      No my natural lens. I was like in shock. Boy these cataracts do a number on your eyesight!  

      PS I never heard of a lens exchange until I came on this page. 

      Well we will see the final result in 3 -4 months I guess at this point it’s better than living in the dark. For that I am grateful. 

       

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      Hi Ally321

      Im hearing you, my husband had IOL exchange 2 years ago, it was a breeze for him from the get go. Me on the other hand, first lenses had to removed due to an interface issue and symfony put in its place, now yag in both at 4 weeks, astigmatism and refractive laser will be done at 12 weeks. Not quite what I expected but I trust that in the end, it will be good for life, I just have to be patient, tolerate the blur and defocus (a few other things) until healing takes place and the tweaks can be done. I did not have cataracts, I had this procedure to negate reading glasses, a very character building journey for me!

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      Wow I’m sorry to read this. It’s amazing how different Drs do this procedure and results. I thought it was more straight forward with so many in the world being done. I had a symphony toric lens put in to correct my astigmatism and my Dr does not do yag till at least 3 months out. I was nervous about the toric after reading here that it could move but she assured me that it’s very rare and if it did it would be within one day or two of the surgery and not to worry. 

      Yes it’s very frustrating having to wait. I rushed to get this done with the days shorter since I was blind at night. So now I have glare and starburst, 🤦🏻??? I wish you well with your final result. I totally understand your reason to get rid of reading glasses. 

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      Did your surgeon talk you into a clear lens exchange?  I certainly wouldn’t consider this if it weren’t for cataracts.  Too much risk just to eliminate reading glasses.  
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      Do let’s us know. my girlfriend had improvement immediately good luck 
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      I would like to know what is generally recommended as far as getting the actual surgery. Should both eyes be done at the same time or do one then wait a couple weeks to do the other. Am considering the Tecnis symfony multifocal however my surgeon (Kaiser) doesn't have access to a laser so it would be the standard procedure which I understand isn't as accurate in positioning the lens.

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      Hi - many places have a standard edit of 4 weeks between surgeries.  If all heals well and no complications I recommend at least 2 week was.  You will wantbto wait to see where first eye settles so that if you need to target 2nd eye differently you can.  In.my case I aimed for plano both eyes (my surgeon’s pick). I had traditional surgery and have had celebrity results.  I don’t think the studies are out with laser assisted surgery provides any better of an outcome.  Make sure the surgeon you’ve selected is skilled at whatever method you opt for.  Often laser costs more and surgeons want to cover costs of that expensive equipment.
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      iPhones....   meant most places have standard wait time of 4 weeks between surgeries....

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