My Prostate Artery Embolization with Dr. Bagla, Jan 2017

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I appreciate some of the detailed threads on this site about the PAE procedure - and after reading them, that became the deciding factor in me choosing to go with a PAE procedure rather than Holep laser.  It seemed like the PAE was so much easier and less invasive...why not try it first, right?

I'm fortunate that I live fairly close (about 2 hours away) from Dr. Sandeep Bagla, one of the top IR guys in the country for this procedure (if not THE top guy).  I can tell you first hand that Dr. Bagla is a first class doctor and all around nice guy as well.  Very professional, courteous, answers all your questions, and just gives off that vibe like you know everything's going to be fine if this guy does my procedure.  After driving down to meet him in person and do the initial consult at his office, I left there thinking - YES, this is the procedure that I'm going to have.

My urologist in Winchester, VA is actually a very good guy (doesn't do any in-hospital procedures himself, only does in-office procedures) and when I asked him about the PAE, he knew about them and had read about the procedure, and thought I'd be an excellent candidate.  He encouraged me to go foward with it.

There was some difficulty getting my insurer to pay (they initially denied the pre-authorization) so Dr. Bagla had to do some follow ups with the insurance company doctors in order to get them to pay for the procedure.  

Dr. Bagla and his team at Vascular Institute of Virginia is just top notch.  There's no other way to describe them.  Very friendly, easy to work with, and very professional.  There wasn't one minute that I didn't feel like I was in good hands.  My procedure was in mid-January, I got there at 7:30am, they started my IV of solu-mederol since I'm allergic to IV contrast, and within about 45 minutes I was on the table in the surgery suite.  The sedation they use is excellent - fentanyl and versed I believe.  Enough that I was aware of what was going on (I remember thinking geez are they done yet...? during the procedure), yet I was still off in a cozy, dreamy happy land.  Weird but cool.  

The proedure was a success, took about 90 minutes.  Laying flat on my back for 2+ hours afterwards was miserable.  By far that was the hardest part of the entire procedure.  Killed my back having to lay flat on a very hard mattress, if I ever had it done again I'd bring a nice memory foam topper to have them use, lol.  

Anyway, I was out of the office by about 1:15pm and on the way home.  I passed a little blood in my urine while there at the office.  Nothing uncomfortable, no burning or anything like that.  I can't take nsaids so I didn't take any prednisone following the procedure, no ibuprofen or anything like that.  I took one Celebrex in the morning and one in the evening for several days afterwards.  This was by far one of the easiest medical procedures I've ever had done.  No problems at all.  Again the only discomfort I had was laying flat on my back for two hours after the procedure.  Other than that it was a piece of cake.

It's been nearly two weeks and I've had steady improvement.  Not a night & day difference - but definite improvement.  I'm not peeing like a racehorse yet, but defintely peeing better.  No dripping afterwards.  Getting up less at night, so my sleeping is better.  You don't realilze how much your sleep is affected because it happens so gradually over the years - but wow, sleeping for 2-3 hours at a time rather than getting up every hour or so is so much more restful.  I still get up about 3 times per night...but that's much improved from 4-5 times per night.  And it's only been two weeks so I'll still get more improvement.

I can say that without a doubt, I highly recommend Dr. Bagla and his staff.  And I highly recommend the PAE procedure.  If you are having doubts....I'd say just go ahead and do it.  It was so much easier that I had imagined.  Very happy that I had it done.

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    bcb1, I always wanted to do PAE but my insurance company (Aetna) wasen't familiar with it. So I opted for Urolift which my insurance did cover. Its been one year now and I'm finding my pee stream is slowing down. I really do not want to put more pins inside of me so I'm undecided as to what to do. Just biding my time at the moment. You mentioned your insurer did eventually pay for your procedure. Was your insurer Medicare or private insurance if you don't mind me asking. Just trying to line up my options for the future. Thanks, Pete.

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      My company was Blue Cross.  They were aware of the procedure and initially denied it, but Dr. Bagla followed up with them and they ended up approving it.

      In my case I had several UTI's over the past several years, some fairly painful and nasty with dark brown urine - which indicates blood - and that might have helped swing the decision.  I do remember Dr. Bagla asking me about infections and any bleeding in the past when I did my consult with him.

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      Yes I was also with BCBS and Dr B try to get it aproved but I really did not have a blood issue so I think they called him on it. It was fine as I choose the Focal Laser Ablation on December 19th 2016. I stayed home from work and just hung out during the holiday then back to work on 1-3-17.  I had little to no blood at all with this procedure and they give you conscious sedation and I felt nor remeber nothing except signing the paper and leaving two hours later to go eat a great lunch. with this procedure I was  was totally BPH symptom FREE as of the 6th of January 2017. After 8 years of suffering: For a while, I did not know how to act. I know longer have to plan my day around a restroom. I no longer carry extra under wear and a urin botttle in my truck.

      NO more nocturia and I had been getting up usually 7 to 8 times each nigth, I now get up only once if I awake, day time urges that caused daily incontinence are Gone as I now have full bladder control!!  I would not dare try to hole it to the next stop two months ago. And the volumes of urin per occurance went much higher and  up to between 350 and 500cc. And as I told you the only side effect I have had is the huge increase in sexual functions. I was so worried about the possibe decrease in ejaculation fulid and I was completely wrong it went the other way as Dr. Karamanian said it would.

      I can not tell you how great this is and I hope you continue to improve to this point as many PAE patients have. All the Interventional Radiologist are wonderful and really deliver in PAE and in FLA. Both are minimally invasive procedrue. We are lucky that these procedures have broken out.

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      Doctor have a way with insurance companys. It's all about the codes  Ken

    • Posted

      Could not find  Dr. Kara manina on the web . Could you please tell me where he is and how I can locate him.

      Thankd

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      JJ

      I see my reply has been moderated, but if you want the Dr K information, PM me or John and we can get it to you.

      Mike

    • Posted

      Hi. I'm curious about FLA. I see online that it's often used to treat prostate cancer. I take it from your post that it's performed by interventional radiologist sand not urologists. Is that correct? May I ask where you had the procedure done? Thanks!

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      jj,  His name is ARA KARAMANIAN in Houston Texas.

      I just spoke with the moderator and (Mike SKIER, FYI) he told me that the fixed the spelling issue  with karamaian's name now and it will not get blocked but we can not give out his practice email or site address.

    • Posted

      JJ  I just PM you the information you ask for and my contact information. Feel free to call me

      Good Luck

      John

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    So pleased for you bcb1. I had my PAE 19 months ago and everything is going great. I had a dramatic improvement in my symptoms straight away and gradual improvement since then....still improving now. 

    Im like you....I chose the least invasive method with the least side effects first. Like you, I figured if it didn't work I could always have laser later. 

    It beats me why men would choose TURP as a first option. 

    Guys, choose the least invasive method first...if it doesn't work you've always got TURP and laser. 

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      Absolutely that was my thought.  PAE sounded like such an easy procedure, so much easier than TURP, Greenlight, or Holep.  As you say, start with the least invasive, easiest procedure first and you can always choose to have the more invasive procedures later if necessary.

      I'm happy to say that just two weeks in, I'm happy with the results so far and I'm confident they will continue to get better.  Glad to hear that your PAE went well too!

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      That is a good way to go.  Why have a surgery if something less invasive would work.  Good luck to you and I know it will do the job  Take care  Ken
    • Posted

      Greenlight surgery is destructive, and I feel bad I had it, but I did.
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      Mark  I feel sorry for you and I hope you are doing ok.  What done is done.  You can't go back.  That is way I always tell men to get all the imformation that they can before they pic a procedure.  How are you  doing now.  I hope you don't have to have another surgery.  Some men that have had GL  end up having a turp to clean up the mess.  Good luck to you my friend.  If you ever need someone to talk with I'm hear for you..God Bless Ken 

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      Hi. I'm wondering if you could update us on your condition 5 months after your PAE procedure. Have the benefits lasted? 

      I hope you're doing well.

      Don  

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