Negative blood tests for Celiacs disease but symptons clear when eating a Gluten Free diet

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Hello everyone,

Have been trying to find forums that are relevant to me and can't really find the help I need so thought i'd start a new discussion and pray. I will talk you through everything thats gone on and if anybody can help with some sound advise i'd be so grateful.

Basically I am 25 years old and as i've grown up I've noticed more and more that I was getting stomach cramps and bloating more and more often. It is very sporadic and I couldn't really say exactly what was causing it but I just thought it was normal. This was until the last 12 months when I started to think a bit more about it. I do a lot of exercise and play a lot of football. I was finding that I would get some form of cramp during a football game. Usually quite mild but sometimes worse. I also like to run and when training for a half marathon found that after a certain distance I would get pains. Almost everytime after about 30-40 minutes running. It would normally be worse when running in the evenings. I started thinking about it and tried taking several things out of my diet. I am 95% certain I have a lactose intolerence as since cutting that out around 6 months ago I have seen an improvement. But I would still get pains.

This all resulted in me going Gluten Free and I finally experienced what it feels like to have a normal stomach. I was relaxed and could do whatever I wanted without any fear. So I decided for my own health I should get tested for celiacs disease and after 7 weeks of eating gluten again had the blood tests. Today I had the results and they have come back negative. I feel so deflated and just angry. What do I do now? I just feel like going back to Gluten Free and living like that self diagnosed. The weird thing I find with my disorder is it seems to be worse when i'm up and about. If me and my fiancee have gone out around town and have lunch it is often worse when walking around afterwards. I don't always get blinding pains either. It is often just severe constapation or stomach cramps just making me feel uncomfortable.

Really disheartening now and just want to know but can't carry on for much longer and really don't want to keep eating Gluten when I know I feel good when I don't. Any advise?

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    I would listen to your body. If you see that a gluten free diet is better for you than why don't you just follow it? It doesn't matter whether you are intollerant or not, what matters is how your body reacts to whatever you are eating. I understand your confusion though, I tried to do without dairy and gluten products and I felt better, however, I couldn't manage that diet for many many months. I had my blood tested and I seemed to have anti gliandin antibodies IGg at 8,7 while the value of 10 seems to be the reference for intollerance (which I don't understand because one should not have antibodies for gluten at all if one is not intollerant). So that justified me eating gluten again only to have all sort of problems, but now I'm too confused, there are many potential causes and so I am not able to make judgements. Having said that, I think that you should make tests for yourself. Like I will do as soon as I am able to buy my own products again!

    Try GF for a while and see how it goes, then reintroduce it in a meal for a week and see what happens. I guess it's your body and you are responsible for it. It shows you what is good and what is not for it. We just have to learn to listen.

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    Not everyone who can't eat gluten is a coeliac, some people just have a gluten intolerance, you probably just have that. But if you know you feel much better staying away from gluten, you don't need a coeliac diagnosis, you can just avoid gluten. 
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    Blood tests sometimes give a fase negative. You need to have an endoscopy to make sure and you need to have been eating gluten for 6 weeks beforehand.
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    Even if you don't have CD you can still be "wheat intolerant" as there are other things in wheat that you could be reacting to even if not the gluten molecule.  Google "wheat intolerance" and you will find a wealth of information.  Try also researching: Paleo Diet, Primal Diet, Grain-free Diet and Food Intolerance; for a lot of information on other things that cause problems for many people.

    Most conventionally trained Doctors have no idea about food/nutrition but there are plenty of other highly-regarded Doctors and Scientists out there, who do.

    After years of suffering with pruritis (generalised itchy skin), gastritis/reflux and a list of other vague symptoms, I was recently able to identify cheese as being a possible culprit for me even though I didn't think that dairy itself was a problem for me.  I did a google search on "cheese intolerance" and discovered that I am reacting to amines which are naturally occuring chemicals in food.  There are also glutamates, salicylates and other naturally occuring chemicals that many people react to.  A "food intolerance" is different from a "food allergy".  These chemicals are found in differing levels, in many different foods and the effect is cumulative (ie. the more you eat, the worse the symptoms) which is what makes it so difficult to identify any one particular food that may be causing you problems.  All I can suggest is to keep and open mind and do a lot of research for yourself.

     

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    Hi again.  I forgot to say that you should also read up on FODMAPs, as the symptoms you are describing also sound like IBS.  FODMAPs is an acronym for the different types of sugars, that are naturally occurring in foods, that are indigestible by humans and can cause Irritable Bowel Syndrome / digestive problems in some people.  Many of them are the foods we are all familiar with like beans, cabbage, cauliflower, broccoli, onions, etc that can cause bloating, gas and abdominal distress but there are many other foods that may surprise you.  Good luck.  I'd be interested to hear how you get on.
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      Thank you for your information. I can tell you've had a similar headache to myself in your time. Struggling to see any light at the end of the tunnel at the minute. Saw another doctor yesterday and despite the fact he clearly didn't wan't to help and had prediagnosed me as IBS before I'd even walked in the room I have managed to get referred to a specialist and he said a possible colonoscopy. So I am now playing a waiting game. Will carry on my own research into your advise in the meantime though. Fight the urge to give in and just take everything out of my diet
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      Hi  My advice is keep plugging away at the Doc's.  It took me over 2 years to get diagnosed,  I first tried to get diagnosed 2.5yrs ago I STUPIDLY stopped taking gluten right away-big mistake!!!! I had a few bloods after that all coming back negative as I had not been on gluten long enough (so I was told), I had an endoscopy which only showed inflamation in the gut ,no heliobactor etc,(apparently the damage can be further down in the gut )in the meantime I was waiting to see a dermatologist for suspected DH for which I had to have a biopsy.  I was diagnosed eventually with DH (therefore Coeliac disease) so keep plugging away. write down the reasons why you think you have coeliac disease and reasons why you  might not, take this list to the Doc and leave it with him/her to digest it worked for me. If you still hit a brick wall and you feel better on a gluten free diet go for it. Doc's ain't always right. Good luck hope you get on OK 
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    Hello, I can completely sympathise - I have been batteling with a diagnosis for 3 years. My symptoms are very different to yours but as you've probably read everywhere - there are a whole host of different symptoms.

    Did you know that going GF can screw up your CD results. There are two medical progressional tests - the standard blood tests & the endoscopy. If you've only had the blood test, then push your GP to be referred for an endoscopy. It's not as bad as everyone tells you and the actually procedure is over in about 5/10 minutes. The endoscopy is about them taking a biopsy of your intestines to see if there's damage to the intestines caused by gluten. Medical professionals imply it's the gold standard for testing for CD. 

    I'm sceptical as you're reliant on the docs looking for the right thing, taking the right biopsy (& enough  biopsies) & also interpreting the biopsies correctly. Also if like me - you've been GF for years - this can give you a false negative - even if you ate lots of gluten in the 6 weeks prior to the tests. 

    I got so fed up wirh GP's dismissing me that I started seeing a private nutritionalist. 

    So if you've had both the blood tests & endoscopy and still looking for a diagnosis ... I would recommend a blood DNA test. It's not 100% conclusive to confirm that you have CD but it will give you an indication as to whether you have it in your DNA. Doesn't mean you will get CD, but for me it was the confirmation that I needed. I'm in my early 30's & had lots of malabsorption problems & wanted to know what was wrong before I got any more secondary problems caused by malabsorption. I took the DNA test because I needed some closure and some form of confirmation that I wasn't a fraud, oh and to feel like it wasn't all on my head... as GP's tend to make you feel. 

    From memory - the test is only a little over £100 and from my my point of view well with it. Hope that helps. If you go down this route - let me know what your results are. 

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    You may have an intollerance which I do. Stick to gluten free! 
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    The most reliable test is a biopsy of the duodenum, but you must do it while you are still eating gluten. Plenty of people have some degree of gluten intolerance even though they do not have celiac disease, however.

    Keep in mind that gluten is in many foods, not just wheat. You will have to do some research to remove it, and you will have to do some trial and error to find out how much you can tolerate. I can eat foods with a bit of miso or soy sauce in them, but a pint of beer seems to cross my "too much" threshold. Everyone is different. If you have celiac then gluten must be completely eliminated, but even with severe intolerance there is a bit of "cheating" that seems to be ok.

    Get all the tests done, first, then regardless of the results, try sticking to a strict gluten free diet for a month. If you are gluten intolerant you will start to see beneficial changes within the first week.

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    I too am really ill with diarrea and have had negative results for CD.  I cannot ever go out to eat as I am extremely ill afterwards.  However, 5months ago I had a CT scan which revealed diverticulitis disease and was told there is no cure.  The CT also revealed I have two growths on my ovaries which I am having removed today, so will see if this affects me at all.  I am writing to you because I have been GF now for 4months and although it has taken a while, I am feeling heaps better, so although I’m not CD I feel I am gluten intolerant.  I would advise you to keep plugging away by not eating gluten and hopefully it will help.  Having constant diarrhoea is so debilitating and can ruin your lifestyle. I don’t think doctors completely understand and I don’t seem to have any help from them.  I hope you find a happy medium, whereby you can live a half decent life. All the best.
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      I too have Diverticular Disease (for 16+ years).  Right at the beginning my GP Nurse advised me to cut out gluten and it made a massive difference and I have been GF ever since.  On the odd occasion when I do have gluten I get bloating, wind and the runs.  We have concluded I am just gluten intolerant as I am 67 and have never had other symptoms which would suggest Coeliac.  On the Diverticulitis Forum, there are many people like me with DD and gluten intolerant.  Others are lactose intolerant, some suffer from IBS D as well as DD, some have colitis.  I kept a food diary at the beginning, identified my trigger foods and have cut them out of my diet (more or less - I still slip occasionally and pay for it).  Everyone though is different, so it's trial and error.  I think that's why doctors are so vague - one size does not fit all and we end up finding out for ourselves.  You may like to have a browse of the Diverticulits Forum.

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