New Data found on Platelet Rich Plasma (O-Shot) for Vaginal Atrophy and LS
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Dr. n. 8 June 19.
The basics of this story are from The Guardian by Kathleen Hale
Dr Charles Runels….. has been called a miracle-worker by the women whose clitorises he has injected with their own blood. But many medical professionals believe the effects are simply placebo – and question Runels’ methods.
Since They will not allow links here, I will say go to the Guardian Website, type in the Search box in the Upper Right "Dr. Charles Runels" Scroll down to "Dr. orgasm will see you now...."
That will bring up a 17 minute video about this doctor in Fairhope Alabama (yes!) who uses platelet rich plasma injected into clitoral and vaginal tissue to rejuvenate those times and in so doing, has greatly improved the LS of the women in the treatment group.
Everyone watch the video carefully.
I am trying to track down the physiological pathway that allows the cells to suffer the auto-immune attack and why the platelet rich plasma offsets the attack but this may be revolutionary. I am trying to track down the two medical journal articles mentioned and will post those findings asap.
Here are the basics of the story as written
When I explained that Runels had actually spent about a year injecting his own penis with blood before shooting up his first clitoris, Gunter laughed. “If people want to do whatever with their own body, have at it. But an untested procedure on your sexual partners?”
As as I could tell, the word “untested” seemed up for debate – according to Runels, it had been tested; using funds from his medical group, Runels had recently financed a $95,000 study to test the effect of the O-Shot on vulvar lichen sclerosus, a dermatological, eczema-like condition which produces cracking and bleeding around the vagina, led by George Washington University faculty member and lichen sclerosus expert Dr Andrew Goldstein.
According to Runels, the results of the study suggest that PRP injections decrease inflammation in women with vulvar lichen sclerosus. (This paper has since been published in the Journal of Lower Genital Tract Disease.) (I am searching for this article)
The O-Shot ranged in price from $1,200-$1,500, and controlled studies have shown that more costly treatments increased the placebo effect – an effect that is so strong, it has been shown to actually create physical improvement in Parkinson’s symptoms.
Studies have shown that more costly treatments increased the placebo effect – and can even improve Parkinson's symptoms
Two of Runels’ assistants, Pamela and Julie, entered to tell me Julie would be getting the O-Shot – right then – so I could witness how painless it was. Julie explained that this wasn’t just for my benefit – that she was 50 years old, had suffered incontinence since having kids and was hoping the O-Shot would help.
Runels hummed his way into the room and after drawing blood from Julie’s arm, he loaded it into the centrifuge and left us alone so that Pamela could lather on the numbing cream. Runels returned to inject the lidocaine into the top crest of Julie’s labia minora – at the point just before it branched into the base of the clitoris.
I waited for Julie to cry out in pain. But instead she just kept talking to Pamela about church. Runels explained to me that this area of the labia wasn’t sensitive (it was built to rip during childbirth) and that bloodflow would naturally take the lidocaine from the labia minora into the clitoris, making a direct injection unnecessary.
Then Runels plucked the vial of her blood from the centrifuge, preparing for the final injection – a direct hit to the clit. The PRP floated on top, yellow and opaque, like dehydrated urine.
While Runels flicked the needle, I ignored the taste of metal in my mouth, squeezed my thighs together and pretended everything was normal. But apparently my secondhand discomfort was unfounded; not only was the whole thing over in seconds, but afterward Julie said: “Is it happening yet?” – because the O-Shot felt like nothing.
“How long will this last?” she asked Runels.
“Conservatively speaking, around nine months,” he answered. He added that, in Lacey’s case, results had persisted for nearly six years.
American Academy of Dermatology website
Platelet rich plasma: Good for whatever ails you?
By Warren R. Heymann, MD
Jan. 13, 2017
Note, here the effect on cellular changes of the platelet rich plasma injection.
The premise behind utilizing PRP is based on its abundance of growth factors including: PDGF (which promotes chemotaxis of macrophages and neutrophils, and is also involved in re-epithelialization, matrix formation, and remodeling), TGF-b (which inhibits macrophage and lymphocyte proliferation, mesenchymal stem cell proliferation, neutrophil and monocyte chemotaxis, matrix formation), FGF (has a mitogenic effect on fibroblasts, endothelial cells, mesenchymal stem cells, chondroblasts, and osteoblasts; it promotes angiogenesis), EGF (which promotes fibroblast migration and proliferation), VEGF (promotes angiogenesis and increases vessel permeability), and CTGF (promotes platelet adhesion, white blood cell migration and angiogenesis; it also regulates collagen synthesis) (1)
Reviewing PubMed revealed that PRP has been touted for oral lichen planus, alopecia areata, pattern alopecia, pyoderma gangrenosum, ulcers (diabetic, livedoid, dermatomyositis-associated, and venous), skin rejuvenation, and scars (acne, striae).
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beverly52803 Guest
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How were you able to get this posted without the moderator blocking it? I have been private messaging the Guardian story to people as so many medication names and any pertinent links I attempt to post get blocked.
Guest beverly52803
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Hi Beverly,
I figured they would block the html version of the story so I copied, cut out some of it and reposted from Word. One of my earlier responses to a nother lady was also removed because it had something a moderator did not like or was against their rules.
I watched the Runels video twice and listened very carefully. I was also able to locate both the 2016 Runels article and another article where dr Goldstein was a contributing author. Because our university has dropped the subscription to the journals in which these drs published their articles, I was not able to download the entire articles, only the abstracts. However, that is a start. I can back track and figure out a lot from the abstracts.
As I think back, 2 docs told me that the O-shot might do some overall good because it is adding back platelets to an area that is no longer getting the blood supply it once did. From my reasoning and reading, I infer from their comment and the articles that regular sex promotes continued blood flow. Well happy day for those who have and want that but there's a whole trove of us out here for whom sex is no longer a necessary part of life.
Now, look at the abstract from the Heymann piece above. It claims "which promotes chemotaxis of macrophages and neutrophils, and is also involved in re-epithelialization, matrix formation, and remodeling)
In LS, cellular changes include loss of matrix and epithelialization.
Therefore, IF PRP can effect remodeling and new skin growth where blood (Oxygen and nutrients) have retarded remodelling and re-epithelilization of new skin growth then, it logically follows that the PRP might help the LS.
You may or may not want to know of another article I found. In this article from the Journal of Lower Genital Tract Disease (there's a journal for just about everything), Apr 2016, vol 20, issue 2, page 180-183, 8 authors, we are told the rate of progression of LS to neoplasias varies with the time one has suffered with it and the age of onset. Further, there are several varieties of neoplasias and , of course, several treatments. Median age of onset is 60. After 2 years, rate of neoplastic growth is 1.2%- very low. After 25 years, rate of neoplastic growth is 37%. These results were found from a study of 976 women ranging in age from 9 to 91 where 34 developed neoplasias. The results were statistically significant.
Now, my doc prescribed gabapentin at low doses and it does help. That tells me nerve endings are misfiring as I don't have itch, just pain. Literature also suggests tricyclic meds (anti-anxiety) also help most women. Putting these two things together begs the question of whether some of this is a woman's over-anxious state of mind and lifestyle. Not for blaming purposes but for explanatory and healing purposes. My two cents from this weekend's study.
donna43932 Guest
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i had it 3 times now it is worth every penny ,, it really has helped my LS, I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD AT LEAST TRY IT
beverly52803 donna43932
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Hi donna, I have sent you a PM, but would like other people here to know that I just looked up the bodylogic place you mentioned in an earlier post. I found one in the Boston area, but there is no mention at all on their site of the PRP injections, just info re bioidentical hormone treatment.
I will call them after the holiday as I am eager to get any info I can. Am having very poor results finding anyone knowledgeable about LS who gives the shots. VERY frustrating.
Were you able to get any of these treatments covered by health insurance?
donna43932 beverly52803
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no i paid out the pocket nothing natural is covered by insurance ,its worth it to be healthier down below and also be able to have sex is a plus because at my age with put sex what quality of life do we really have and how would we have a relationship with out that part either goggle body logics mds in irvine ca and read up on what they do at the wellness clinic i go to they are getting into the stem cells there and i read and saw a video on how a girl was cured by using stem cell treatment for he LS