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Hi all, l have just been diagnosed with Ménières, my mother has it but her symptoms are different from mine, l just wanted to run a few things passed some of you on here to see what help and advice you could give me. It is my right ear that is effected it constantly feels blocked, my tinnitus is in both ears and is very loud, l get what l call cluster head aches on my right side, l stumble a lot as if l have tripped over my feet and l always fall to the right, l have terrible sickness and dizzy spells and can spend hours over the toilet, a lot of my attacks happen in the early morning about 3-4 when l suddenly wake up and it's like I'm laying on a trap door and someone suddenly opens it and I'm in free fall, this can last anything from 10 seconds to hours, but it's what happens after that is starting to get me down.

After the free fall l will manage to crawl to the bathroom and be sick then craw back to bed and just try and hold on, l feel cold, very very cold but also have sweats, l then get what l call the judders that can last for ages, then comes the panick and the anxiety, then comes the fatigue and l manage to fall asleep, and l can sleep for days. This is a scaled down version, the last attack lasted 3 days with 2 days to recover. When they did my balance test the right ear was 49% deficient, and it did seem that my right eye, right ear and brain were not talking to each other. After a very nasty physical attack in 1993 l do suffer from PTSD so l can see how some of the Ménières is feeding into that and sparking it off, ie the panick and anxiety attacks as my brain and body don't know what is going on, l was just wondering if any one out there goes through any or all of these or can give me any advice as just how you cope, l am on Betahistine 16 mg 3 times a day, Fluticasone nasal spray (constant smell of smoke) and have now been put on Topiramate as they think migraines might be starting off the attacks. Well that's it, if you have got this far thank you so much for reading this, and any help advice or what ever you can suggest would be great fully taken on board.

Yours very great fully 

Justin 

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    Justin. I feel for what you are going through. On top of the inner ear issues having PTSD sure doesent help. I was seen by a specialist here in Phoenix that only dealt with inner ear issues. One thing he was SPECIFIC ABOUT, is that virtually any medication, including the ones you are on, will have a negative affect on the tinnitus. I found this to be true. My issue was also the right ear. While no one can address tinnitus substantially other than watching your salt intake, the vestibular sectioning of the balance nerve did address the balance, drop attacks and nausea. I would make sure you have a good doc that specializes in this issue. Other than that do what you can to overcome any depression resulting from this issue. Just a post script. I also had the sweats, cold and other issues like you. I was actually carried out of my office soaking wet one day until my wife could get their and take me home. I would hate to see your condition worsen before you get some good advice from a specialist in the field, even if you have to hunt long and hard for one.

    Regards

    Richard H

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      Cheers Richard, the PTSD was caused by an unprovoked sustained physical attack that lays on his file as attempted murder, so after 25 years still lives with me. I agree with you about the tinnitus, it never goes and l can tell when an attack is coming as it goes mad, thanks for all the advice will keep you informed.

      regards

      Justin

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    Hi Justin:

    So sorry to hear your challenges I had many of the same symptoms and after trying many things, I have gotten my menieres and vertigo under control. Let me tell you what I do and perhaps this will help you. While things did not improve until I started taking the betahistine, I do believe the combination of all of these steps helps. I will put them in order as to what I think is most important in helping resolve my episodes, at least for the time being. Fingers crossed it does not come back.

    Exercising at least 4-5 days per week for 45 mins do both Cardio and strength training

    Eating a healthy and nutritional LOW SALTdiet

    Maintaining a healthy weight for your body size

    Betahistine (28g - 1 time per day)

    Diuretic daily (Triamterene-HCTZ)

    Eliminated caffeine

    limited alcohol intake. 

    Zoloft - this helps with my anxiety that I think was a trigger (150 Mg per day)

    Meditating (10 minutes per day or when I begin to get stressed)

    I am a 59-year-old male, 6 ft tall and 200lbs, I work in a high stress senior executive role. I know different things work for different people, but this combination seems to be working for me. Good luck. 

     

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      Thank you Greg lots of great advice, something to help with the anxiety would be great at the moment just need the GP the give it to me. Will keep you informed.

      Regards

      Justin

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    Hi Justin,  I am sorry you are suffering so much.   I was diagnosed with Menieres in late 2016 but likely had it for years the Dr. said.  I was on 24 mg Betahistine twice a day for a few years but was still having vertigo attacks.  I am currently taking 48 mg twice a day, so double the previous dose.  Since the new dosage, I have not had an attack.  Betahistine is safe in high dosages.  It took almost a month to get used to the higher dose but I feel much better.  I still have to deal with the tinnitus, ear pain and pressure at times.  Betahistine does not eliminate all symptoms but it improved quality of life for me by controlling the dreaded vertigo.  Diet and exercise help a lot too.  I love red wine but have to really watch it with that!  In extreme moderation!  I am under the care of a top ENT (Neurotologist) who specializes in Menieres.  Speak to your ENT about everything that you are experiencing and keep a diary of your symptoms.  Wishing you much relief soon!  Stay hopeful!  

     

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      HI Louise:

      Would you mind sharing the name of your ENT and where he/she is located? Thank you. 

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      Hi Greg,

      I prefer not to give names, but the ENT is located in Toronto.  

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      cheers Louise l know where you are coming from with the red wine!!! The Betahistine is helping and, yes l am changing my lifestyle and diet so will keep you posted, thanks for the advice.

      Regards

      Justin

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    Dear Justin

    I am new to this forum & disease. Constant pain in my right ear with the statutory tinnitus. I long to shove a knitting needle in my ear to pop the blockage. Of course I wont .

    In September last year I got flu virus & this came along as a result.

    Having read your experience it made me cry. You have been though so much.

    Isnt it incredible how I have taken my health for granted up until now. Some one some where please find a cure for us all.

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      Hi,  I too get right ear pain, sometimes both ears. For instance, I have a mild G.I. bug right now and ear pain with it!  It seems that whatever else is going on, the ear pressure increases every time.  Which makes everything worse.  I would just like to scream sometimes, as I'm sure others with this condition would too.  The inner ear is so exquisitely sensitive.  For me, a big trigger is lack of sleep and am totally out of commission the next day.  Yes, I too hope they can find a cure, or something that can reduce the misery we all go through!   Take care!

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    Betahistine didn't work for me. But a physiotherapist helped my vertigo. Might be worth a try. No more vertigo since first visit in 2016.

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    High Justin,

    i have a few tips that might help,

    Ive sufferd md for 17yrs and have had endless attacks

    and mild vertigo just walking about can be strange so i do

    empervise with you..if i have an attack as you do in the early hours

    it is incredibly frightning when every little move you make brings on the urge 

    to throw up i have found that if i adress the fear straight away i can control

    the urges to throw up..i slowly get my body level so im centred i.e not angled across

    the bed..i reache for my buccal tablets which help to reduce the sickness and then

    adress my breathing..breath slowly in the nose and out through the mouth this

    helps with the anxiety symtoms i.e highper ventilating tight chest and cold sweats

    that come from fear...remember to breath corectly i.e. your stomach should move 

    up to the cielling and back done again and never into the chest just like a baby breathes

    this may feel hard at first because the nose seems blocked but it is mearly your body

    cutting down soes not to hyperventilate..then you need to calmly talk youself through the vetigo

    by telling yourself (o.k. it is a menieres attack and it will pass as it always does.try to keep

    your body dead still and as relacked as you can..im guessing that you already have an anxiety

    disorder as i do from p.t.s.d...i have found stress is a big facter to M.D. it increases the tinnitus

    and brings on the small attacks throughout the day so that to needs adressing so hears how i cope

    with stress..again you will need to get yourself centred in your bed and adjust your breathing as i

    said ..theni do some light exercises to release the pent up adrenaline caused by anxiety..

    rember your not exercising but remembering how your bodyfeels relaxed..so i get centred in bed

    then readjust my breathing then lift my right leg just enough to feel the wieght of it then let it drop and go

    flabby then im concentrating on the feeling of when its relaxed..you move to the next leg do the same

    also the left and right leg never really lifting them off the bed and rembering my breathing..you can

    spend so much time feeling anxiety that the body forgets how to relaxed and that what we are trying

    achieve..you may find youself wanting to cry also twiches or muscle spazems or even being frightend

    because the feelings feels new to you this is simply the body going into standby..the body never really

    shuts down completly thats how we fall asleep..also i tend to get intrucive thought they might be worries

    of the day ..so i carry around an imagenry dumster when i close my eyes and put them all in it telling

    myself to deal with them in the morning..this is like a light meditation technic and seems to calm my mind.

    I hope all this info help and again breathing the right way is the best way to deal with fear by relaxing the

    body fools the head in the flight or fight analogie and it calms the mind..i hope this helps it will take practice

    so good luck and i wish you well....stev..

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      Hello Stephen, Thank you for sharing with us, I have to agree with you meniere's attacks and stress go hand in hand. 

      Bertman 

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