New to Hemachromatosis
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Hello all,
I've just discovered that I have the Celtic Curse. I am 47 years old, and my Ferritin was about 1500. I'm a descendant of Halvdan the Black, so my Viking blood has cursed me.
I've been tired and moody for quite some time. I'm exhausted as I write this. I've started my first phlebotomy, which was kind of depressing. When I saw "Cancer Institute" on my caller ID, my heart skipped a beat. There are no specialized clinics to deal with Hemachromatosis in my area, so I have to go to the Cancer clinic.
As I sat in the phlebotomy recliner, I saw three other patients receiving chemotherapy in the same room. One lady had a Tiffany lamp next to her chair to make her feel at home. Compared to them, I feel lucky. However, our condition is so rare that I have to be treated alongside cancer patients and really doesn't help the depression aspect of this disease.
So being new to this, I'm looking for advice. I have weekly phlebotomy sessions scheduled, which will go on for some time. How long does it take to feel better? There are days I'm exhausted (like today), and there are other days I have a lot of energy. I don't know what normal feels like, but how long will I feel normal?
I am currently in the Southeast United States. It doesn't seem there is much focus on this disease in the states.
Thank you, and I look forward to your input.
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terry76860 CelticCursed
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Hello, my Ferritin was at 1215, I had know damage done to my liver, my joints hurt so bad I couldn't hold anything in my hands and my knees felt like they couldn't hold me up, that's how I was diagnosed, I have double C282Y, when I got to 400 all my pain went away now I'm almost to maintenance and am feeling good, how ever everyone is different, there are a lot of groups on Facebook for Hemochromatosis please join, they are very active and you will learn a lot, I even joined the ones in Canada, UK everywhere there is millions of us
CelticCursed terry76860
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Hi Terry,
I've thought about joining some Facebook groups, but I'm worried about my friends and co-workers seeing my messages. I've posted in groups I thought were private, but have shown up on others' news feeds.
I've had minor joint pain, but a lot of exhaustion and foggy brain. I have days where I feel great, too.
terry76860 CelticCursed
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sheryl37154 CelticCursed
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I am glad you mentioned your Viking heritage because the Celtic Curse is a misnomer. The only true Celts were those that fought their way down from the north to settle in France. Then there are the Iberians who migrated to Ireland, etc. The French too have a prevalence of 1 in 200 like the rest of us, but it has now been changed to 1 in 250 given all the other nationalities (whose heritage do not get GH) that have moved to France. It will be very interesting to find out what peoples actually started all this - it would go back many thousands of years.
I have been treated for homozygous C282Y for 20 years now. My husband is homozygous H63D, and our son is compound. This was after a tortuous 9 years of severe symptoms undiagnosed until my hips broke up.
I suggest you ask for Vitamin B12 injections to help you while you are having frequent venesections. It is something I wish I had known all that time. Also get your Vit D checked as the symptoms of a deficiency there also seem to be GH symptoms. If low, go for a practitioner's brand of Vit D3 forte drops. These actually work.
I too kept having all the fatigue and body pain despite the fact I had been de-ironed. After reading a lot of research and speaking, in particular, to Prof Pierre Brissot, of Rennes, France, it seems that my long term high TS% was the culprit. Drs don't generally see high TS% as important. It is because they do not read the research about it.
I have continued to have venesections even though my ferritin is in early 20s, and finally my TS% sometimes get into normal range. The TS% is the last to lower, but 20 years is unusual. However, it seems to be going down now, and I must say, I am finally starting to feel better. I still have short days though and my body does not want to function after 7.30pm.
I am being treated by a haematologist who is also an oncologist and I have my venesections in the oncology day unit amongst those who are having chemo, and other horrible treatments. My husband got Hodgkins Lymphoma and had to have chemo, and radium therapy, so I am grateful my venesections are not chemo.
BTW, GH is not that rare. It is the commonest genetically caused metabolic disorder. Homozygous C282Y occurs 1 in 200 and homozygous is 1 in 80, while heterozygous is 1 in 7. There is a lot of research on it - just stick to the real medical research and not blogs. It is best to educate ourselves so that we know we are being treated correctly. We will get to know more about it than drs do.
You will find that your ferritin will go up and down - don't despair. Also if you even have a simple cold, the infection/inflammation will send it up high but will reduce naturally once the infection is over.
And also, there are no medical specialists in GH. You are lucky to be in the hands of a haematologist in the oncology area. However, they are experts in reading your blood levels pretty much only. So you need a good doctor to treat any problems arising from it, and the treatment is the same whether you have GH or not. Just keep having those venesections.
Good luck with it.
Chris8968 CelticCursed
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CelticCursed Chris8968
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That's good to know! I'm looking forward to feeling normal again!
tom_70042 CelticCursed
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Started mine at 1200 but restricting diet helped initial boost lost 200 but it still gonna be weekly for a year and lifetime maintenance
I get days of brain fog and tiredness and some like today where I’m bursting with energy
It’s a strange Celtic curse but that’s where we are at
Good health to you stay focussed it gets better
CelticCursed tom_70042
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There's no curtain for me, it's a large open room. I'm looking to switch hospitals...there is one that separates paints with curtains. Still, having to go to a "Cancer Institute" and sit in the same waiting room as those who are fighting for their lives. At least our problem is only an inconvenience (for the most part).
CelticCursed
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Thanks everyone for your replies! It's certainly good to know I'm not alone in this.
Since "iron overload" is so common in Northern Europe, are there hemochromatosis clinics there? I'm curious, where are you all located?
I'm switching clinics because I found one that will at least put me behind a curtain during phlebotomy. I feel so strange walking into a cancer clinic and sitting in the waiting room with cancer patients.
Has anyone here ever gotten their Ferritin down to 50 (or whatever the normal number is)? Or, will we always be above that normal range, even with the phlebotomy?
I accidentally learned about this after an annual physical. For some reason, my doctor thankfully decided to check my iron level this year. I don't think it's ever been checked, so I don't know how long it's been high. I do know that I have almost always been tired, with a some peaks of energy here and there. Mostly, I find myself fighting through the lethargy and fog to get my work done.
sheryl37154 CelticCursed
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I am in Australia, and no, no special clinics - at very best our gp refers us to a haemotologist (which has us in same room as those with cancer - but I have no aversion to this - chat with them, they are a jolly lot despite their condition. I would feel strange having a curtain pulled around me), or a gastroenterologist (which I think is only better for those with liver problems), or the gp monitors and issues requests for vx via Blood Bank, or pathologists. Geez, it was hard enough to get recognition at all, let alone expect special clinics. We are not that special.
For a while we become iCentric, mainly I think it is because we don't know enough in the beginning and the drs are not that helpful, but there are a lot worse conditions
I think NZ have clinics wherein the nurses monitor your levels and make decisions based on a one size fits all chart. Kiwis - I apologise if I have got that wrong.
Of course, my ferritin level has been <50 for years but has also jumped up and dropped down at times. (I keep a spreadsheet!) The key is just to keep regular when it comes to maintenance and not let your haematologist decide to hold off on vx for a while to see what happens. From my experience, it is the experimenting that can stuff us up.
I stumbled on something that wakes up my brain when I feel too tired to think and concentrate. Never having chewed gum since childhood, I bought some sugar free peppermint gum for mouth freshness after eating. Ping - it woke up my brain. It may be the peppermint, it might be the chewing action - but it works for me. Consuming sugar and starchy food makes me feel like I have been hit by a truck.
selina58849 CelticCursed
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Hi, I'm from Australia and I go to the blood bank to donate. Here we can get a referral from the doctor to the blood bank and our blood is able to save lives. Our blood disorder is not catching and full of iron so perfect for donating. Also Australia has some leading researchers on hemochromatosis and they are currently trialling a new treatment on volunteers with our condition so fingers crossed it works and we have another option besides bloodletting in the future.