New to trapped nerve!
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I seem to have developed sciatica or a trapped nerve in my right leg meaning that even when I walk ( which I will never stop!) it twangs.
If I do any Yoga or Pilates stretches involving bending towards leg or touching toes, it really hurts...something i used to find so easy.
Dr says nothing to do but continue exercising and take painkillers!
I've tried stretching it out by googling which pose would help but they don't!
Any ideas please?
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Kookywit janeben
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Hi, The Sciatic nereve is the largest nerve in the body, running down the length of the spine through the hips(there are technical terms but I'll make it simple.) to both legs, down to the toes. While your symptoms are fairly mild at the moment, basically your health provider is just brushing you off until there's the possibilty that you'll have a really serious problem to soilve. You should consult a Specialist, an Orthopedist, have an MRI Scan and possibly X-Rays of your spine , profilre standing and lying down. The Scitica nerve could be being compressed along your spine and doing th ewrong exercise could make it worse or cripple you. I was shown an exercise that I did religiously and I, like you, walk a lot, travel, am VERY active and now can hardly bring myself to go to my RGP. Pilates or physiotherapy the pain is so terrible in the groin an dleg. Pain killers don't cure anything, they merely help you to get around when th epain is really bad, crippling. Don't let it get that bad. Go to a specialist and have the proper exams done. It's not something you want to joke about or underplay. No stiff uper lip. The nerve is NOT necessarily trapped in your leg, mine is pinched along the spine L4, L5; S1, but NO back pain, the pain's in the groin and the leg , down to the knee. My leg has atrophied and I'm undergoing so many treatments , exercises ,Ozone injections , so I can travel and walk and play and live! Don't accept what your doc. has said, I've got a private Doctor who cares and aids me , but I'm in Rio De Janeiro, where everyone who is alive has to be in shape, if you're out of shape and can't move , might as well be dead! So good luck, BTW I've taken every pain killer on the market, since it's nerve pain, they're really bad for you, too. Meds. Ibuprofen,'s the most common, not much good for me. Arcoxia , Lyrica, Gabapentin, Codeine, Celebrex. All poisins! Turmeric with pepper, Ginger, devil's Claw, natural ones. Taken the lot , Pilates helps strngthen the core and stretch the spine. RPG, for posture . Alexander, stretches. Anyway , hope I've helped a bit
janeben Kookywit
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Yes you have and thank you. I will call my Dr surgery tomorrow and ask for another appointment!
I'm not one for taking medicine either. Occasional painkillers if necessary.
I do Pilates stretches plus some yoga but am not sure if I'm making the problem worse!
Walked and climbed the cliffs, where we live today, for five miles...the nerve hurt my right leg each step...a mildly painful twang or shock, but I'm determined not to allow it to stop my lifestyle!
I did google sciatica and there were some stretches to help but they don't help me...you're saying nothing does?
Thank you
patricia4866 janeben
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Hi Jane. If you don't mind, are you in the UK or US or elsewhere? Reason I ask is bc clinical medicine varies per country. I am in the US and I quit this site a little over 2 yrs ago bc the folks on it were beginning to resent my posts because I did so well after my L4-L-5 fusion. I listened to my surgeon and did what I was told. Was back on my feet and had the promised 80% back within 6 months. I was running a treadmill 5 miles on 30 degree incline at 1 yr out and have done well since...until Nov 8th of this year when the vertebrae above the fusion slipped ( only fair to tell you that I am a retired Ortho/Tauma RN, soon to be 69 yrs young, with what my Spine Surgeon calls "a a really crummy back". What caused this is lack of disc height between most of the vertebrae up and down my spine. The exact term for the vertebrae slippage is called Sondylolisthesis. What you dis robe sounds something like Sciatic nerve encroachment by some means. The reason for my fusion was Spinal Stenosis as well as a herniated disc. T the fifer emcee is that you can still walk even though it hurts. The pain I get when I stand up is severe and instantaneous.. An electric shock from buttock to right foot that does not stop until I take the pressure off of the nerve by sitting down. I am trying to be as graphic as I can be so you have a comparison. It was frustrating for the folks outside of the US to understand much of my encouragement because out medical system is so much different than elsewhere. Even in Canada. So I hope that you will understand when I say that what your dr told you makes no sense to me. Please at least think about getting a second opinion(unless you are in the UK which I think you aren't able to do.). The "pain pills" aren't going to help much in the long run if your nerve is pinched. What got me through the 13 months from start of pain in my lower back to the fusion was 30g OTC Ibuprophen every 4-6 hrs. That used to get me through 12 hr shifts 3 X every week until I retired and had surgery. Ha nurses can be a stubborn lot! In any case, I hope this has helped a bit. Good luck and please let us know how you are getting on.
janeben patricia4866
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Thank you and Gosh!
I'm in the UK, NHS system. I could visit another Dr in the practice for a second opinion but I'm seeing a Physio in February, for ongoing neck and shoulder problems, so will ask the Physio.
I don't take painkillers for this pain!
Wish you well
Kookywit janeben
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patricia4866 Kookywit
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Kookywit patricia4866
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Ozone Gas injections into the cartilledge, drinking Ozonated water at night before bed. Whole body of research about the inflamation fighting success of Ozone Gas and Hypabaric treatment. Hip repalcement surgery is is common everywhere & as far as I know doesn't have a significant rate of failure. BUT Spine surgery, yes. Many people get problems after, the pain doesn't get better, soemtimes they get worse. The percentages are are facts. I was in the USA. two months last year ,consulting.
Kookywit patricia4866
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Thank you. I'm planning to trekk The Inca Trail this year in Peru, so hopefully research & modern methods will put me back in shape without the danger of Cortisone Injections making me too fat to be able to scale a mountain and deep sea dive. I'm happy that this site exists as one sees so many thousands of people being treated in exactly the same ways & how they are getting on. What I've concluded it that much of the outcome depends on the person's willingness to move and not be sedentary. No matter what the country. I'm glad Janeben's so happy with NHS. My daughter lives in Canada, Toronto and thinks the health service there far superior to The US. I wouldn't know,.You obviously have lots of experience , it's a privilegde to have Intenet & be able to exchange ideas.
CHICO_MARX janeben
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Sciatica is caused by a pinched sciatic nerve somewhere along its path: L4/L5 in the spine, through the hip and the the Sciatic Knot in your glutes, finally down your leg. The pain tends to be very sharp and "shooting" at times.
Stretching and pain killers do nothing. You have to fix the underlying cause. Here are some from my own direct experience with sciatica...
- Played hockey for 45 years and sometimes skating without full gear I'd fall on my hip. The next morning, I had to roll out of bed...really bad pain. Went to a chiropractor. Performed a "pretzel twist" on me. Lay face up on a low bench, one leg crossed over the other, pressure and then a quick snap of the shoulder in the opposite direction of the legs. Get up...walk out. Problem completely gone.
- Five years ago, sciatica again. PT, Pain injections in my spine, no joy. MRI at the neurosurgeon revealed a bone spur "crushing" (doc's word) my sciatic nerve root at L4/L5. Quick laminectomy to get rid of the spur. Pain free in 24 hours. No rehab.
- Had a TKR in March. To avoid knee pain, a lot of us in this group unconsciously change our gait. In my situation, the SI joints in my hips locked up. Ortho sent me to a chiropractor. Two sessions a week for three weeks and it was gone.
- Now I have developed severe sciatic pain in BOTH legs simultaneously. Sharp pain, total weakness, hard to even walk. Only one thing causes sciatica in BOTH legs...stenosis. Now I need more spine surgery to clean out the narrowing canals that the nerves pass through out of the spinal column...kind of like roto-rooter. That's next month.
So... Your sciatica can be caused by a multitude of medical conditions. I'd start with a quick x-ray and a visit to a chiro. It could be as simple as hip/SI joint alignment. If nothing shows up or helps, your next visit is to a neuroSURGEON...not a neurologist. It could be something at L4/L5 in your spine causing the problem.
Hope this helps.
patricia4866 CHICO_MARX
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janeben patricia4866
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I thank all who have tried to help me jx
CHICO_MARX janeben
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There is no complexity.
1. Doc examines and observes you.
2. Doc looks in his book to find the likely diagnosis (80/20 rule)
3. Doc looks in his book to find the procedure or medication for the diagnosis (80/20 rule)
4. Works? You're done...or maybe dead from a drug interaction or surgical mistake...but we won't dwell on that...
5. Doesn't work? Go back to #3 for something different.
6. Still doesn't work? Hmmm...maybe he was wrong in his diagnosis. Maybe you had a heart attack instead of an ingrown toenail. Go back to #2.
7. STILL doesn't work? Call Hugh Laurie. Maybe Dr. House has an idea.
The 80/20 Rule: Try what the literature says works on 80% of people. If it doesnt work, try the next thing that seems to work on 80% of the remaining 20%. If it doesnt work, try the next thing that seems to work on 80% of the remaining 20%. If that doesn't work...well, you get the idea. (If you take this to the extreme, you end up with a one person population!!!)
This is all from my doctor cousin who has been doing this for 50 years!!! He tells me this exactly how "the practice of medicine" works. Yes, most docs see something over and over again and don't need a book to tell them what to do. But think about most of that "book" being in their heads. Same thing. 80/20 ALWAYS applies.
So now you see that it's not really complex after all...but we haven't touched insurance yet...and I will never, ever try to explain that!!!
janeben CHICO_MARX
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There seems to be an 80/20 rule for most things in life! 80% sensible eating...20% "treats"!
Well, thank goodness, here in the U.K. we don't talk health insurance!
Thank you Chico, for your advice and time.
CHICO_MARX janeben
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Anytime. Would love to visit England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland someday to see my wife's family ancestral home area. Then on to Malta for mine. Family name goes back to the Knights Templar and the Crusades...would love to see the island and then Sicily, their last stop before America. For me, that's the Cosa Nostra connection in Brooklyn where everyone's name ends in a vowel. When there's a problem, we don't call the cops...we call FAMILY!!!
patricia4866 janeben
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Hi again Jane. Please read carefully to replies, and average the positive against the negative before you form your own opinion. Narcotocs should never be your first drug of choice. That's why I told you what had worked for me. Ibuprofen is an MSAID and convenient since OTC. It worked for me for 13 months so I could continue to work. I definitely not one to pop pills of any kind, much less narcotics.
The 2nd point is that IF it is definitely nerve pain that you are having, do not see an Orthopedic surgeon. What you need is a Neurosurgeon. You have my sympathy trying to navigate the medical system in the UK. I discussed some of the problems you all go through just being seen with my own Surgeon and he agreed that there are vast differences between there and here.
Good luck and stay in touch.
janeben patricia4866
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Hi Patricia, thanks for all your posts and time!
I've made another appointment with my GP, as we have to be refered to the hospital for an x ray. I'm pretty sure it's nerve pain but hopefully after an x ray, I'll have clarification.
Yes, our medical systems are very different! As with everything in life, both have positives and negatives.
We have recently moved to this town, and all we do is to register at a local surgery (our notes follow a few weeks later) and can see a doctor any number of times, plus get refered to the hospital if neccessary.
For any emergencies, we are admitted into hospital immediately...all this is free to anyone living in UK, with a NHS number.
We have the freedom to move jobs and around the country, always with the security that if needed, we have free health care (most people pay a small % of their salaries called National Insurance. Unemployed still receive treatment without paying NI.)
I have American friends, and I know they feel trapped in certain jobs, in order to receive medical insurance, which is incredibly expensive.
Thank you for your help jx
patricia4866 janeben
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