Newly diagnosed and Stunned.

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I have read at least two hundred posts, comments, etc and no less than one hundred websites in the past month. I have a question about my diagnosis; ( a million really!)

I am 59, Male, relatively healthy, fev/fvc 67%, fev1 87%, Oxygen saturation of 98% BMI of 30% and shrinking. I did a treadmill test and walked 14 minutes at 198 HR at level 5 incline. I eat pretty well, work 55 hours weekly at a stresful construction management job. I do experience breathlessness at times though unless up hills, i can walk as long as I want up to a few hours if I chose (i dont often though) but do experience some "breathy" breathing. I have some mucus generation - especially in the morning though not to much as it clears out in about one hour +-. I do clear out my throat througout the day. My official diagnosis is Mild obstruction. My pulmonologist at a major hospital and I spoke for one hour last week and he said I would likely not experience any significant issues in my lifetime due to COPD. Of course i want to believe him but most everything I read from websites, blogs, personal accounts goes completely against what my pulmonologist told me. Can you please share your perspectives with me? I admit to being so overwhelmed with this new "life" that I have brought on to myself. I am an ordinary, single Dad who is raising my daughter full time. She is a wonderful 13 year old pre-professional Ballerina, warm hearted and thinks I am a mountain. She does not know I smoked ( I quit 2 years ago after 10 years of less than one pack per day). Could the doctor be right? I want so bad to believe but just cant. I also want to say that I read much from those who have lived with copd for a long time beginning where I am but are far into the disease. others have been newly diagnosed at stage 3-4 and are struggling to grasp all this. I do know that I am "fortunate" to be at mild but want others to know how much I honor all of us at this who are navigating the culture of copd.  Please share .  Thank you, LT

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    Whilst many who have replied to Larry have provided useful and informed advice, I believe one needs to take a more pragmatic view when giving advice. I have suffered with emphysema for at least 15 years and am still älive and kicking". We should give Larry a more positive attitude especially when it has been recorded that the average age when we emphysemics those off this mortal coil is 81 years of age!
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      Sorry, should be "throw off this mortal coil"
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      Martin,  Thank you. I am a newcomer in this "new life" of mine and as such, I am turning every stone possible to get a handle on things. Seems most/all of us who have copd start from a similar place - discovery followed by learning about the disease, our new guidlines for mortality, anything that might make ours "different" , giving us hope that "I" will live out as close to normal life as we had hoped/expected - pre diagnosis. I want the positive/possbile but also the "hard" truths. I am taking the advice of others. I have walked most days for at least 30 minutes, am eating smaller meals - more frequently, eating early dinners as often possible, reducing the single glass of wine that I would have just before bedtime to relax/chill out. I start my meds tomorrow. I am in a serious funk about all this but am simultaneously plugging into the process responsibly. I really have not taken anyones comments unfavorably. In fact, I was generally pleased that strangers responded to stranger. I most likley have the same questions and concerns as others; how fast progression from fev/fvc 67%, fev1 87%, oxygen saturation 97%, clear xray, treadmill test 14 minutes on incline with HR at 198, BMI 30, some breathlessness but not serious, some consistent mucus production but relatively minimal, some fatigue but able to work 50plus hours weekly in a stressful job and full time care of my daughter and home care. I read things from 50% chance of making it 5 years to "as many as 10-15 years- or maybe longer". I was a 6-9 pack year smoker who was raised in a smoker household. I quit smoking 2.5 years ago at the age of 56. I ramped up to less than a pack per day beginning at around the age 50. Before that is was 2-5 cigs per day "ish". I am learning that there is no one size fits all prognosis and accept that though I suppose I am still searching for information which may correlate with my situation and somehow do what I can to relate it as closely possibe to my situation. I have a 13 year old that i am soley responsible for, had plans to retire in Mexico at the age of 70 and live a modest but interesting post retirement life. So, i confess to being scared as hell, embarrased that I did this to myself- probably. Ultimately, I do respond most favorably to "pragmatic"/realistic data and clear anticdotal information. Please share.

      Regards,  LT

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    Hi Larry

    To give you another perspective. My respiritory specialist told me that whilst useful and in some cases important oxygen saturation figures are just that- figures. He related to cases involving his patients 0 one with an FEV1 of 14% and another with an FEV of 90%. The one with 14%, took a positive view of life and although had extreme difficulties at time did not stop him from riding around Australia on a motorcycle. The other could barely walk 100 metres without suffering severe breathlessness. Which, I guess only goes to show - how you cope with COPD depends on your outlook on life.cheesygrin

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    Hi Larry how long is a piece of string?   I agree with Martin a lot of it depends on your attitude as worry and anxiety can only make things worse.    I will say that at your level the disease is very unlikely to progress quickly so forget that stuff about 5/10 years etc.   Lung function does decline with age anyway.   If you are around 80% now then it is possible in 10 years time you might be down to 70/75% but they are still very good levels and you can still lead a near normal life.   By the time you are 100 you might be down to 60% for example. 

    You can survive with a lung function of 6% but that is the cut off point.  You are a long long way off that!   I have known people in end stage copd survive for 10 years or more and their lung function would be under 25%.   

    Keep on with your healthy lifestyle,  take your meds as prescribed and look after your lungs.  Remember if you think there is something wrong it is better to go to the GP rather than not.  Ok?   My FEV1 is 78% and I rarely think about my lungs now,  I just get on with my life and doing the normal things I have always done.   It only becomes a problem from time to time when I have an exaerbation and they don't last long.   Learn to manage it then carry on with your life.   Bev x

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      Thank you HC. However I respond to this, it will be the best I can do.  My  daughter and I went to the movies tonight anbd we raced across the street....She told me when we got to the other end of the street that I needed to get in shape cuz I was breathing to hard smile.

      I will be!

      Can you tell me how to tell if an exacerbation is coming on? have you ever had to be hospitalized?

      LT

       

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      If you are already under the weather with a chest infection, exacerbations can come on at a moment's notice, be it by inhaling smoke, diesel fumes or water vapour or simply by bodily resources being diverted to digest a big meal - which is what probably happened to me, Four times. Whatever, a coma quickly follows, as do blue flashing lights and a week or more in hospital.

      And if this worries you, just think what it actually does to your spouse / partner ! 

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      No I haven't Larry and don't expect to be,  not with my lung function and you shouldn't be with yours either.   Like I said I lead a near normal life and so will you if you stop yourself expecting the worst!  

      You will get to know your own body but I usually get a chest infection after a cold and then need ab's and steroids.   All an exacerbation is is a worsening of your symptoms,  so if you are finding it extra hard to breathe or cough a lot etc. then you could be having an exacerbation.   If in doubt see a doctor. 

      You can let your copd control you or you can learn to control it.  All it means is you do things a little slower.   You are worrying over nothing.  If your lung function was say under 50% then you will find life a lot more difficulty - but yours isn't.   So relax and stop worrying about it please.   x

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      HC, I would love to stop worrying but until I comprehend "this", the reality is copd feels daunting. I can hear the confidence in all your voices which is awesome and certainly helps to ease my mind.

      It has been two-three weeks since I learned of my diagnosis. I have a 13 year old girl who lives with me 100% of the time, am a single Dad and sole wage earner. Like many, I have been learning all I can. The range of information is vast and offtimes scary.

      Thank you for your input.  LT

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    Larry

    ​You might like to consider taking a pulmonary rehabilitation course - usually lasts 6-8 weeks twice a week for a couple of hours. I found it very useful as it deals with: Exercise, Nutrition, use of medications etc., Whilst you are probably in the mild category, the information is really useful and sets you up for the future.

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      Thanks Martin,

      I did send an email to my doctor for this opportunity.

      LT

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    Larry I would say you don't have COPD your FEV1 is in the normal range and so is your blood oxygen.  However I am not a doctor.

     So in your position I would take on board:

    1) what your pulmonologist at your major hospital said to you.

    2) avoid developing COPD by taking certain actions to help prevent it occurring*

    *avoid exposure to smoke/no smoking passive or otherwise, regular exercise, good diet, annual flu vaccine, where possible avoid those with cold or viruses

     

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      Vee2, You can likely imagine what it would be like to be wrong about such a thing. My fev/fvc is 67% with a 12% imorovement with albuterol which every web site I have read ( I have read at least 100) state that even with 87% Oxygen levels that I am mild - some say low moderate and I do experience some modest but definite breathlessness daily. Can you tell me about your experience?

      LT

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      I meant to say fev1 87% and 97% oxygen level.
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      You could be reading the wrong information Larry outside of what your  pulmo doc at the hospital said regarding the diagnosis of mild obstruction but as I said I'm not a doctor. Just that the original levels you posted seemed very good to me, in the normal range, regarding your FEV1 and oxygen levels.

      I would think the major hospital you attended would have reliable information you could refer to.

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      copied from European Respiratory Journal papers:

      Spirometry was performed according to European Respiratory Society guidelines 15, and forced vital capacity (FVC), forced expiratory volume in one second (FEV1) and the FEV1/FVC ratio (FEV%) were measured. Spirometry values were graded as follows: normal (FEV1 >80%, FVC >81% and FEV% >87% of normal value); mild deterioration (FEV1 65–80% and/or FVC 65–81% and/or FEV% 78–87% of normal value); moderate deterioration (FEV1 45–64% and/or FVC 45–64% and/or FEV% 62–77% of normal value); and strong deterioration (FEV1<45% and/or="" fvc=""><45% and/or="" fev%=""><62% of normal value). of="" normal="">

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      Nice journal however when they say normal what age group do the figures from this journal refer too, as you age clearly they are going to be reduced naturally
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      You might want to check that out for yourself jillibean by contacting or reading the ERJ papers yourself. Alternatively you could phone the British Lung foundation, I am sure they will be able to answer you. Or if overseas, phone the Lung Foundation or Lung Association in the country you reside. 

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