No surgery?
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Hello,
I am 20 years old and have recently (this year) been diagnosed with Chiari type 1 at 7mm. My symptoms have been ongoing for around 6/7 years. They include awful headaches, dizziness, tiredness and some disturbed vision. I have seen a neurologist and have now been referred to a neurosurgeon, however, neurologist doesn't think I will need surgery.
Has anyone not had surgery? If not, how do you cope with your symptoms?
Thank you!
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blackhawks3310 center12
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I feel like most young people decide to have the surgery because they still have a whole lot of things to do that require feeling better such as raising children and keeping employed. I also feel young people get the surgery because they are more likely to have a smoother quicker recovery. The older u get the harder surgeries are to bounce back from.
As far as coping with this....my guess is it’s more suffering than coping, at least in my case it is. I just willed myself for the past 3 years to go to work and never quit. I willed myself to do housework and be social...but I suffered everyday through to it all...it’s really just determination unless u have medications that actually help u, but most people say meds don’t help them that much or have side effects like drowsiness.
It all depends on how bad your symptoms are...some people can’t walk or have weak extremities and it doesn’t even matter how determined they are, they still can’t cope with it because it’s physiologically effecting them. Mine is bad, but I have been able to grit my teeth so far, but I could tell that I couldn’t keep it up forever which is why I decided to get my surgery....now if I find the surgery doesn’t work for Me, then having to cope with this is going to become really initeresting. I’d imagine I would have to resign from my job, lose my house, move my family into an apartment or even back with my folks, fight for disability benefits, try to find a job that I could do with the way I feel, rest constantly, try to make up for it by being a loving father and husband and do everything I possibly can around the house and with the baby to make it as easy as possible for my wife who would still be working...coping...i think it’s just readjusting your life to live with ur disability, even if it’s as extreme as what I just described...
center12 blackhawks3310
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Thank you so much for your reply. I understand what your saying about being younger and suffering from symptoms. I’m currently at university, and my symptoms do make some aspects a bit more challenging.
I personally wouldn’t rule out surgery, but I don’t believe it will be offered or suggested to me by the neurosurgeon.
I’m sorry you had to deal with it all for so long, sounds like you’re very strong!
I’m also worried my symptoms may get worse, they are manageable at the moment. If you don’t mind me asking, did your symptoms get worse??
Thank you very much for your input 😊
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Kerenza center12
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Hello... Sorry you're going through this. Diagnosis can be a scary thing!
I was diagnosed back in 2015, and originally I made the decision to try and cope without surgery. Nothing really helped with the pain or symptoms though, although ice packs applied to the back of the head can feel nice. My symptoms started to get worse though and I had to start thinking about surgery. What made me finally make that decision was something someone told me in a FB group. Firstly, I wasn't going to get any younger (obviously!) and the younger you have the surgery, the better your chances of recovery. Secondly, the longer you are ill, the more your body loses its fitness and its ability to recover from surgery. You need to be as strong as possible! Thirdly, and this is a big one... The longer you wait, the more chance you have of permanent damage. This can be caused by direct compression of the cranial nerves and also by high CSF. If your body is symptomatic, then damage is being done. The earlier that surgery is done, the higher the chance of recovering in full. That being said, the choice to have surgery is something only you can decide. I am not a medical professional, I am only offering advice that was given to me!
One thing I will say is that neurologists know nothing about chiari apart from the basics. I saw 2 of them who both tried to tell me it was just that I was stressed. They didn't even look at the MRIs I had done! I then saw a Neurosurgeon who told me that I was herniated 1.5cm and that even laying down in the optimal position, my CSF flow was almost entirely blocked. I then had surgery 9 months ago, and they told me I was even more crowded than the scan had showed them.
So, don't trust neurologists! FB is full of groups, and in those groups there are thousands of people with the same stories about neurologists lol they are just not given enough training in Chiari.
Good luck with everything! I'm sorry I can't tell you any tricks to help you cope... I found nothing really worked accept a small bit of relief from ice packs. I hope you get the help you need.
center12 Kerenza
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They are all very good points. I’m not sure that I will be offer surgery, which worries me as I’m concerned it could all get worse!
Mmm yes I have heard many people say that neurologist tend to not know much about Chiari.
Thank you so much,l.
blackhawks3310 center12
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I believe my symptoms slowly got worse, and my tolerance slowly was eaten away over a couple years to where I couldn’t stand it anymore and was willing to have the surgery.
elisabete01382 center12
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Hi,
Take a look at this site and take our conclusions.
My daughter has the same diagnosis.
We had this surgery and she stable must better then she was.
It is a "new" thinking about this situation.
I wish you all the best, take care.
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Hi Marvel,
Thank you for putting this post so hoping that others who has a like wise symptom will be able to read and get inside about chiari. Just like others have respond to you - I also have some experience to tell you I was started with horrendous headache - 7 years ago - then 5 years ago its getting worse - until I collapsed and my son called the ambulance and they thought that I have mini stroke until I have X-Ray then MRI Scan that I had chiari - my neuro surgeon suggested decompression if I can't stand the pain any longer, but first any health care professionals obviously try to control or manage the condition without having to go through the surgery as again its depending on each individual..but I am very positive though, if the neurosurgeon understand about the issue then you bound to have positive outcome (successful result) that is why each patient have to sign about the result/side effect of the surgery - in order to find out (or have a piece of mind) please get the neurosurgeon tells you how many decompression he/she done - what is the successful rate for that. I was unable to walk, swallow, breath , properly - constant headache - I basically have no Quality Of life until I finally got decompressed - I am now drug and pain free - think positive - but listen to your body - even post surgery (I am now nearly 2 years) getting better - I have my loife back - I am able to walk, swimming - no stiff ness - perhaps I am one of the luckiest one - but what happen for some patients - why sometimes they suffer re-occurance - according to my surgeon you have to at least 3 - 5 months before you are trully healing - but lots of patient so impatience then they go back to work - I supppose due to financial pressue.. but believe me ..TRUST in GOD, think positive = YOU WILL BE FINE....
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towanda74932 center12
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and very symptomatic. I have not had the surgery because I have several other neuro issues such as CIDP, Pots, Severe Herniated dusk at C4,5,6 Migraines etc.
kinda scared to have the surgery. Not coping well with all the symptoms and it’s hard to distinguish the s/s cause they overlap.
Ttraye towanda74932
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b2wc97455 center12
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Dear Impulse, I detested surgery - however - the decision I made to have surgery is the best one - if you don't have surgery you might get it worse..so the sooner you can have it the better - it does not matter what your neurologist wants or not wants it is YOU the most important one - if you keep having symptom than you have to insist for him to refer you to the surgeon for surgery - they do not know how you feel ..but you have to listen to your body..there is no way chiari being able to be managed by drug..(I used to work in Pharmaceutical COmpany) so what ever the health care said..I suggest for you to have a surgery - the longer you leave it the worst could that be....