Normal 42 year old one week to Posterior Subcapsular Cataract next week.
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My wife is 42 and one week ago on waking up she saw blurry (more in left eye). We thought oily gland or something but it would not go away for almost the entire day.
We thought she needed glasses so headed to eye doctor and she was diagnosed with cataract "Posterior Subcapsular Cataract" in BOTH eyes 😦
Now here vision is back to almost normal but if she covers the right eye there is still slight blur but not like the days this all started one week ago.
She is not diabetic, nor a smoker, cortisol taker or alcohol drinker. Actually she is very sporty and healthy person. It seems it is genetic as her mum got it at 40 something too and grandfather too.
We have initial appointment with eye surgeon in 2 weeks time and I am trying to get as much info as I can for this meeting and to make the right decisions for her. Hence I am here and have some questions-
I am Europe if that is relevant and she does not drive-
- Is "Posterior Subcapsular Cataract" hard to treat on a relatively young person?
- Who makes the best IOLs that are reliable and excellent quality?
- Definitely go for Femto laser for the cut or not stress over it?
- Wife is group fitness instructor and also works in office. Would long distance mono IOLs in both eyes be the best and safest option?
- Mulitfocal IOLs too risky?
- Does long distance cover distance to computer screen?
- How come she is seeing relatively good right now compared to last week when it all started? Is the better eye and brain compensating?
I will have more questions probably but THANKS YOU FOR ANY ADVICE!
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soks W-H
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thats pretty much my story from two years ago. waking up after a sunday afternoon nap. my 2 cents on your questions
no they are somewhat similar to other cataracts to treat but given the young age there is a possibility to see lens edge glare (positive dysphotopsia) if the pupil dilates beyond IoL. also younger age is more prone to PCO after surgery. also younger men below 50 are more prone to retina detachment after cataract surgery.
i was only looking at edof lenses. so there were only 2 options. symfony and zeiss lara. did not opt for zeiss as i was told zeiss is more prone to PCO.
laser was my preference for correctly sized capsularhexis.
depends on how much near you get with a monofocal. that is difficult to predict.
sometimes.
no computer screen is intermediate. 2 to 5 feet.
with both eyes open the better eye will compensate. also i was in denial for many days. psc progress very fast. 2 years after diagnosis my 2 nd eye is getting worse.
soks
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Additional items:
PSC folks are also more prone to PCO. Being young just makes it worse as the cells try to build the lost natural lens. Like Sue said that YaG can be done for PCO but is a good idea to wait out the YaG in case a lens exchange is warranted and more so for younger patients as YaG increase risk of retina detachment by 1% in younger patients as the vitreous has ot drained.
zeiss also has a trifocal call LISA which will provide good reading, intermediate and distance. with trifocal there is a possibility for gaps in clarity of vision again this cannot be predicted. individual results vary. multifocals and edof are more prone to night time halos and glare.
the eye lens is like an MnM candy. The lens is the chocolate inside. the shell is the capsule. they make a circular opening on the front side of the capsule (capsularhexis). then they remove the lens from this opening with laser/phacoemulsification. the remaining capsule supports the artifical lens (IoL). the cut side of the capsule needs to overlap the lens to prevent/delay PCO and also to secure the IoL in place.
if i went with a monofocal i would have them set for -0.75 and wear less power glasses for near and distance. i would probably not need glasses indoors for distance with that kind of selection.
Sue.An2 W-H
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I am so sorry your wife has to go through this st 40. My own hit early and rapidly as well at 53. I am coming up on 2 years since first surgery and 2nd eye was done 6 weeks after first.
Soks' responses below are spit on so I won't repeat.
Just to confirm - you mentioned your wife does not drive? If that is the case she may want to consider EDOF lenses like Zeiss stLara or Symfony. Most of the issues with lens (whether EDOF or multifocal) are the added halos at night. But during the day they orovide much more range of vision than a monofocal. As Soks mentioned there really is no way of predicting outcome of a monofocal. A small percentage actually get intermediate and distance with them or obtain more range by having a mini monovision done where target of one eye is distance and other is intermediate. Person wears glasses for reading. Or if preferred target near and intermediate and wear glasses for distance.
However with a mini monovision approach if your wife has never experimented with contacts (or is her vision such she could experiment now) I would not suggest going with more than 1 diopter difference as it is not something everyone can adjust to.
I went with Symfony for my choice. I see well at all distances (except for tiny print or in low lighting situations wear I do have readers +1.25). I work full time and prefer to see my computer or iphone/tablet without glasses and don't need glasses for driving anymore either. I do see multiple co centric circles around certain lights at night (traffic and car brakes when applied). It has gotten better (or I have adjusted yo it) but they do not go away as often one reads. There is a very good thread here on the forums about the night vision issues by a201 if you'd like to read through it. Titled Has anyone else noticed this unusual vision issue with Symfony. atLara lenses would have similar issues as well.
I am fortunate that I do not have edge glare as Soks described but that is again something you can't predict as all IOLs are pretty standard diameter of 6mm. I do have PCO developing in LE but so far with both eyes open it isn't causing a big problem now but I likely will have to have a YAG at one point to clear it up.
It is good you are gathering questions to ask the surgeon. Best to shop around to find someone that will dialog with you and discuss pros and cons of IOL selection. It is extremely hard the younger one is as it is about compromises. My own surgeon said the older ones are very happy to have the surgery as they gain something they list years ago but the younger patients have to decide what to lose. I sympathize with your wife as I agonized over this a lot and delayed decision as much as I could. The procedure itself does not hurt. Going to dentist is worse.
Best wishes for a successful outcome.
Sue.An2 W-H
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I am so sorry your wife has to go through this st 40. My own hit early and rapidly as well at 53. I am coming up on 2 years since first surgery and 2nd eye was done 6 weeks after first.
Soks' responses below are spit on so I won't repeat.
Just to confirm - you mentioned your wife does not drive? If that is the case she may want to consider EDOF lenses like Zeiss stLara or Symfony. Most of the issues with lens (whether EDOF or multifocal) are the added halos at night. But during the day they orovide much more range of vision than a monofocal. As Soks mentioned there really is no way of predicting outcome of a monofocal. A small percentage actually get intermediate and distance with them or obtain more range by having a mini monovision done where target of one eye is distance and other is intermediate. Person wears glasses for reading. Or if preferred target near and intermediate and wear glasses for distance.
However with a mini monovision approach if your wife has never experimented with contacts (or is her vision such she could experiment now) I would not suggest going with more than 1 diopter difference as it is not something everyone can adjust to.
I went with Symfony for my choice. I see well at all distances (except for tiny print or in low lighting situations wear I do have readers +1.25). I work full time and prefer to see my computer or iphone/tablet without glasses and don't need glasses for driving anymore either. I do see multiple co centric circles around certain lights at night (traffic and car brakes when applied). It has gotten better (or I have adjusted yo it) but they do not go away as often one reads. There is a very good thread here on the forums about the night vision issues by a201 if you'd like to read through it. Titled Has anyone else noticed this unusual vision issue with Symfony. atLara lenses would have similar issues as well.
I am fortunate that I do not have edge glare as Soks described but that is again something you can't predict as all IOLs are pretty standard diameter of 6mm. I do have PCO developing in LE but so far with both eyes open it isn't causing a big problem now but I likely will have to have a YAG at one point to clear it up.
It is good you are gathering questions to ask the surgeon. Best to shop around to find someone that will dialog with you and discuss pros and cons of IOL selection. It is extremely hard the younger one is as it is about compromises. My own surgeon said the older ones are very happy to have the surgery as they gain something they list years ago but the younger patients have to decide what to lose. I sympathize with your wife as I agonized over this a lot and delayed decision as much as I could. The procedure itself does not hurt. Going to dentist is worse.
Best wishes for a successful outcome.
Sue.An2
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not sure shy my post posted twice. Sorry for my long winded reply!
W-H Sue.An2
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"Sorry for my long winded reply!"
Sue.An2 I am eternally grateful for each and every reply on this thread. I have tears in my eyes knowing what my wife has to go through 😦
I wish I had to deal with this and not her!!!
Sue.An2 W-H
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You'll find people here sympathetic as we've all had to cone to terms with cataracts and IOL selection. It was a really good resource for me and I am very grateful for the help I found here and likely why I am still here over 2 years later. I didn't feel as alone going through it and now with the beginning of PCO may need advice a d help again - as cataracts are the gift that keeps on giving.
I am Canadian so am a bit envious of the larger IOL options your wife will have in in Europe. I am actually headed to UK next week to see family - been 23 years since I last spent time there.
Although this is a process - remember this procedure has a very high rate of success. My vision really deteriorated near the end and couldn't even read lic plate of car in front of me at stopped light. After surgery it was amazing to see again - colours more vibrant and bright vs brown tint cataracts cast. Had 6 weeks to compare the vision between surgeries.
You'll likely see more negative remarks online as people usually don't research much beforehand and start posting inly if something isn't right. But there ate some who did look online and found this forum and ended up with good vision. Just hang onto that. Best piece if advice is to find a good surgeon. Due to the high cost and the fact people now are getting this surgery to correct presbyopia (clear lens exchange) there are many doctors who are wanting a sale vs what is best for patient. If you can get references or look up surgeon online or get a referral from someone all the better.
BobDob W-H
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2. Who makes the best IOLs that are reliable and excellent quality?
When I researched monofocals, I rated Tecnis and Bausch & Lomb over Acrysof, although Acrysof is probably the most implanted here in the U.S. Most with Acrysof are happy with them, though. Drawbacks with the Acrysof are the potential for glistenings and "diamond eye," which is a certain kind of glint when seen from a particular angle. However, there is a possibility for dysphotopsias with any IOL. As soks noted, with younger patients, the eye sometimes dilates beyond the IOL rim, causing edge glare. I don't know if any of the above IOLs are larger than the others, which could possibly lessen this effect.
3. Definitely go for Femto laser for the cut or not stress over it?
Most eye surgeons are skilled at manual implantation, but there can be a degree of precision with laser.
4. Wife is group fitness instructor and also works in office. Would long distance mono IOLs in both eyes be the best and safest option?
If she is going with monofocals, I would suggest blended vision (mini-monovision), with her dominant eye set for distance and her other eye set for intermediate vision. She would need reading glasses for near vision, but would not need to wear glasses for intermediate and distance.
5. Mulitfocal IOLs too risky?
It's not that multifocals are risky, but she is very likely to have some degree of night vision issues (halos, starbursts, or other effects) around lights, including headlights. There can also be gaps between the two or three focal points with multifocals where vision can be blurry. The Symfony IOL is not a multifocal, but an "extended depth of focus" lens (more like a better monofocal), but most with this lens see concentric circles around points of light at night, so your wife would need to be willing to tolerate that.
BobDob
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I guess Sue.An types faster than me. 😃
soks BobDob
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i asked my eye surgeon last if there were any 7mm IOLs and he said there weren't any. A 7mm IOL will resolve the positive dysphotopsia for some of us.
Also it is not that the pupil dilates beyond the entire IOL, well it does in very dark situations, but in not so dark situations the center of the constricted pupil is not at the center of the IOL because the IOL is centered around the capsule -- causing arcs which are more bothersome than the entire circle cause they move.
Sue.An2 BobDob
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LOL - and long winded too. And get it double posted to boot.
All good points BobDob.
janus381 W-H
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3. Laser or Traditional?
I will be getting Laser Cataract Surgery, but I appreciated the fact that my opthalmologist did not "sell" the Laser option at all. In fact, the doctor said that studies show that outcomes with laser and traditional are pretty much the same after a year.I'm going with Laser because of faster recovery, I've only one set of eyes and added cost is not that much when I look at it that way, and there may be a slightly higher probability of better results.
5. Multifocals Too Risky
Many of the posters here are from the US. And the US has gone more to EDOF like Symfony due to some risks with traditional multifocals (which were really bi-focals). The risks included not as good intermediate vision, reduced contrast sensitivity, and thinks like halos, shadows, etc...
I was diagnosed in December, and was thinking I'd go EDOF. But the latest trifocals are getting extremely good reviews after 5 years of use in Europe. I posted some comments in the AT LISA vs AT LARA thread. My research has made me very comfortable with the latest generation of tri-focals. I will be getting the PanOptix tri-focal by Alcon.
In particular, Search: "eyeworld" and "Trifocals outperforming other premium lenses" for a recent article outlining why opthalmologists believe that the tri-focals may be the appropriate for many.
6. Intermediate Range Vision
That is one of the benefits of the latest tri-focals -- excellent distance and intermediate vision, and very good near vision for most, as in the modern world, intermediate distance is very important.
2. Best IOL
Each generation of IOL improves on the prior generation. As per the article I suggest you search for, the three leading tri-focal IOLs are (from newest to oldest) Panoptix, FineVision, and AT LISA.
Deb03 W-H
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Hudsongrl Deb03
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yes 20/30 will be blurry for sure. i am 20/25 or 20/30 in my IOL eye and it drives me nuts. so, i wear a -.50 contact lens to get crisp vision. hoping when ihave the second eye done it is plano, i am super disappointed in my surgery...wanted tobe contact lens free.
W-H
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Wow so many replies!!!!
I just came back from my wife's 3 hrs of hard group fitness classes. I will read them tomorrow morning with fresh mind as I am psychologically and physically drained 😦
W-H
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I ended up reading all replies, off to bed and support my wife. Tomorrow I will be back when she is at work and read them all again.
Very thankful to all of you for giving me support!
W-H
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My wife was watching YouTube videos in bed of people who had cataract surgery and their experience with the results.
She was in tears 😦 I am trying to protect her but I feel so helpless.
She/we are both worried and scared of making the wrong choice!!!
It is midnight so I better try to sleep!
Sue.An2 W-H
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I wad curious too and watched you tube videos of the surgery. Most of surgeons patients (he did about 15 that day) had their ryes numbed). Me due to nerves took an ativan 30 min prior yo surgery. Honestly it really doesn't hurt and it takes less than 10 min to perform.
She is likely had a bad shock from the diagnosis. I went to my regular optometrist thinking all i needed was stronger glasses. I was in such shock to hear cataracts - my patents in their late 70s still don't need the surgery. All that was running through my head was great grandmother with bandages and come bottle glasses. There has been so many advances to this surgery. As BobDob said each generation of IOLs getting better. I only feel cheated as by time I should have needed it IOLs would be that much better.
From diagnoses to surgery was 7 months (delayed needing tine to make up my mind between Symfony which was newly on market in Canada or monofocal). By time I had surgery it was difficult to see my computer at work and felt I was going blind. Couldn't push out date further.
Perhaps she'd like to post too with her concerns. We are all in same boat - she may find peace chatting with people who have been through it.
Sue.An2
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There is no wrong choice of IOL. It's a matter of knowing pros and cons to each.
One thing I did was create a spreadsheet of activities I do, work, hobbies, interests, sports and tried to estimate where I spent most of my time (near intermediate or distance vision). Most doctors will assume setting monofocals to distance but a lot of patients now have cataracts at a young age and our visual needs and preferences differ from a retired individual (and that too varies as today's seniors are much more active).
W-H Sue.An2
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She is scared of the operation but understands that it is not like major surgery but her greater fear is of going blind or not being able to give group fitness classes and seeing her students all blurred etc etc.
I am actually typing lot of the questions on her behalf so she is indirectly here and getting all the info directly 😃
Hudsongrl W-H
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i would say stop watching videos. it is just more anxiety provoking 😦