P.I.P. Argh, nightmare, need help.

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Hi, just got a letter stating my pip has been refused. My original assessment was successful and I was awarded pip until 15th November 2017, but then I had an annual review, I got asked to go for assessment which I did. I never included gp statement as I thought original one still counted.

In the review assessment I was never asked half of the questions I should have been or I don't recall being asked them, I found out today that they never approached my gp for my medical history at all yet it states in letter that they are going on my medical history, which may I add, some of which has got worse, and needed to be recorded in the pip descriptors. So now I have to pay £15 for a letter from my gp that they should have requested. None of my mental health issues have been even recorded let alone taken into account. They said I could walk 200 metres unaided when I had to use my crutch and I wear a knee brace because my knee was agony.  Nothing I said has been taken into account at all. I'm asking for a mandatory reconsideration, but it took the letter 5 days to get to me, so I've only got just over 21 days to request it. Does anyone have any advice? I've already got my request down in writing, giving in great detail my reasons for the request. I'm getting a supporting letter from gp and supporting statement from my mum who is my carer stating what she does for me, as well as a copy of my original decision letter. Will I need anything else?

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    Sorry to hear this, There's seems to be rather a lot of refusals lately. You say this was a review so they would have used the evidence you sent last time but because you say you've got worse you should have given more evidence to prove this. Don't rely on them contacting any medical professional because it's very rare if they do. Even if they ask for Dr's name they often don't contact anyone.

    Have you asked for a copy of the assessment report? if not them please ring today to ask them to send you one. This will help you know exactly what was said.

    When you ring them also tell them you want a MR so this can be started of. Then send your writen request in along with ALL and as much evidence as possible. Any letters from Consultants, Occupational Therapists, Dr's letters, a print out of all current medication. What you need to do for the MR is take a look at all the PIP descriptors, have a looked at what points they scored you and write down what you're chalenging ( what you think you should score) and the reasons why. What PIP award did you have before the review?

    Please also bear in mind that most Mandatory Reconsideration decisions don't change. I think only about 2% of people manage this. Be prepared to take in to Appeal Tribunal. 60% of decisions are possitive at Tribunal compared to 2% at MR. Good luck and i hope you won't have to wait too long with this lengthy process.

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    I went through just this nightmare. Originally I was awarded 16 points for a year and a half for PIPS. Then due to having shoulder surgery which anyone with half a brain would realise  would mean a deterioration in health,needing more support etc I had another reassessment . I wish in retrospect I  had not told them of my change in circumstance! I was refused with only 7points and could not believe it they also had all my medical evidence I even had a recent letter from my GP saying I was far worse pain wise etc.  Asked for a MR and was refused again . So  I got a copy of their report and could see clearly how contradictory it was and full of lies saying my boyfriend took my sons  to school although he does not Iive  here and started work at 5am ! I enclosed he ighlighted copy pointing out their mistakes and sent it to Tribunal. I also had a report from my occupational therapist saying I had been given  an inflatable bath support and stair rails . I won the case without going to see them through a paper reconsideration. Persevere and win you are entitled to it . Best of luck
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      The ironic thing is that the very day I was refused PIPS I was put into the ESA support group! I thought the DWP was the same dept?,.,.,.
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      They are the same dept but ESA and PIP and 2 completely different benefits and both have different criteria. Some people claim PIP/DLA and work.
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      My mum recieved 0 points for pip and now her esa premium has been taken away ..certainly not a coincidence c
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      The ESA premium which is Severe disability premium is only payable with a qualifying benefit, so you're right it's not a coincidence. One of the criteria for claim this premium is Mid/high care DLA or any rate daily living PIP. Without any of these you won't qualify for this.

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      I have just been watching the Ken Loach film I,Daniel Blake. It describes a very true picture of how the DWP works! Exactly what I went through. I never gave up to what I was entitled to but while you fight them we have to  go through such uncertainty, stress and anxiety
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    Yes you will need a lot of patience!!!!

    Don't give up though.

    You could contact a local Welfare Rights Group or a local MIND group.

    Hope this all works out for you.

    Take care and keep in touch


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    hi my partner had to appeal his decission for pip he was awarded 0 points at his medical didability north are a charity that deal with appeals for pip dla took richards appeal they do everything for the appeal they know excacly whot to put down just had appeal on friday 10 03 2017 was awarded high mobility

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